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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Breeders Cup Chat : Giner Punch</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/tags/Giner+Punch/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: Giner Punch</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007 SP2 (Build: 20611.960)</generator><item><title>Curlin Retirement Leaves a Huge Void For 2009</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/2008/11/18/curlin-retirement-leaves-a-huge-void-for-2009.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:06:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:21657</guid><dc:creator>jshandler</dc:creator><slash:comments>86</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=21657</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/2008/11/18/curlin-retirement-leaves-a-huge-void-for-2009.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;P mce_keep="true"&gt;The announcement earlier this week that Curlin would not race in 2009 was not a surprise, but the reality of it made me come to one disappointing realization:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Other than Zenyatta, there really aren't many top-tier older horses I am looking forward to watching next year.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;With Big Brown and Curlin now out of the mix, we now have the two most popular, and arguably, the two best North American-based dirt&amp;nbsp;horses retired. And that's just the beginning of it.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Some of the notable older horses who have either already been retired or will likely be retired after 2008 are Student Council, Ginger Punch, Hystericalady, Benny the Bull, Midnight Lute, Red Rocks, Evening Attire, Zanjero, Perfect Drift, Lava Man, Red Giant, Tough Tiz's Sis, Zaftig, Alwajeeha, Sealy Hill, Lewis Michael, Dreaming of Anna, Mauralakana, Heatseeker, as well as European stars Zarkava, Raven's Pass and Henrythenavigator. There is also probably a decent chance that Commentator and/or Kip Deville will be gone after their final races this year.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Kind of depressing, isn't it?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;At least we have the top 3-year-olds to look forward to. Well, some of them anyway. That's because two of the top Kentucky Derby hopefuls, Vineyard Haven and Breeders' Cup Juvenile winner Midshipman will winter in Dubai for Sheikh Mohammed, as well as BC Juvenile Turf winner Donativum likely going to England for Princess Haya. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Again, thank our lucky stars for Zenyatta.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Before I paint too bleak of a picture, there are still some exciting horses that should return in 2009, most of them females - Ventura, Cocoa Beach, Music Note, Proud Spell, Forever Together and Indian Blessing (Baffert's long range goal for her is the Dubai World Cup Sprint) to name a few. And, of course, there is Stardom Bound, who should only get better as a 3-year-old.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;As far as the males, 3-year-olds like Colonel John, Mambo in Seattle and Denis of Cork should improve, and sprinter Fatal Bullet looks like he'll be a force. Perhaps the one older horse I am looking forward to seeing more than any other is BC Dirt Mile winner Albertus Maximus, who is set up for a big 5-year-old campaign.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;l should also point out that this year is not unlike any other. The reality of horse racing today is that this is time of year when horses retire. It's the nature of the sport and we have to accept it. It's time for the new stars to make their mark.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;However, it doesn't take away from the fact that the departure of Curlin, Big Brown&amp;nbsp;and many of our other favorites leaves a huge void for 2009.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=21657" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/tags/Benny+the+Bull/default.aspx">Benny the Bull</category><category domain="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/tags/Hystericalady/default.aspx">Hystericalady</category><category domain="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/tags/Evening+Attire/default.aspx">Evening Attire</category><category domain="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/tags/Lava+Man/default.aspx">Lava Man</category><category domain="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/tags/Student+Council/default.aspx">Student Council</category><category domain="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/tags/Big+Brown/default.aspx">Big Brown</category><category domain="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/tags/Curlin/default.aspx">Curlin</category><category domain="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/tags/Zenyatta/default.aspx">Zenyatta</category><category domain="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/tags/Giner+Punch/default.aspx">Giner Punch</category><category domain="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/tags/Colonel+John/default.aspx">Colonel John</category><category domain="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/tags/Midnight+Lute/default.aspx">Midnight Lute</category><category domain="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/tags/Indian+Blessing/default.aspx">Indian Blessing</category><category domain="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/tags/Albertus+Maximus/default.aspx">Albertus Maximus</category><category domain="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/tags/Zanjero/default.aspx">Zanjero</category></item><item><title>Division Leaders</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/2008/08/12/division-leaders.aspx</link><pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:26:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:12983</guid><dc:creator>jshandler</dc:creator><slash:comments>54</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=12983</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/breeders-cup-chat/archive/2008/08/12/division-leaders.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;P mce_keep="true"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;We're now a little more than five weeks into the Breeders' Cup season and the divisions are beginning to take shape. The continuing story thus far is how the male division seemingly gets more ordinary every day while the female division continues to get more exciting. Unless this Big Brown-Curlin thing actually happens, there is no doubt the Ladies Classic will be much more interesting come late October. I forget, what day is the Ladies Classic being run? Never mind. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Anyway, with about two more months of Breeders' Challenge events left to go, I thought it would be a good idea to take a look at a few of the divisions. Let's do our best to rank the top 3 American-based horses in each one. Here goes:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;U&gt;Classic&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. &lt;STRONG&gt;Curlin&lt;/STRONG&gt; - You still have to give him the edge even though we have no idea if Jess Jackson will send him to Santa Anita. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. &lt;STRONG&gt;Big Brown&lt;/STRONG&gt; - Looking forward to seeing the spot they pick for him. Something tells me it will be the Pennsylvania Derby.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. &lt;STRONG&gt;Commentator&lt;/STRONG&gt; - He ran the year's top Beyer (119) so you have to respect him. Looks like he'll go to the Mass Cap next month and point towards the Classic. But can he get 1 1/4 miles?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Don't forget about: &lt;STRONG&gt;Henrythenavigator&lt;/STRONG&gt; - He's won four consecutive group I races and some say he is the best horse in the world. Aidan O'Brian says he will point towards this race, which should spice things up.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;U&gt;Ladies Classic&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. &lt;STRONG&gt;Ginger Punch&lt;/STRONG&gt; - She's the champ. Until someone proves otherwise, I'm ranking her above Zenyatta.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2 .&lt;STRONG&gt; Zenyatta&lt;/STRONG&gt; - Undefeated and getting better. Has a huge advantage because of the synthetics.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. &lt;STRONG&gt;Music Note&lt;/STRONG&gt; - Looking forward to this weekend's Alabama. She might be the best of them all.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Don't forget about: &lt;STRONG&gt;Hystericalady&lt;/STRONG&gt;. She lost by a nose in the '07 Distaff and is even better this year. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Tough for me to leave out &lt;STRONG&gt;Proud Spell &lt;/STRONG&gt;and&lt;STRONG&gt; Little Belle, &lt;/STRONG&gt;but what can you do?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;U&gt;Turf&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. &lt;STRONG&gt;Red Rocks&lt;/STRONG&gt; - Won the best U.S. turf race this year. &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. &lt;STRONG&gt;Gio Ponti&lt;/STRONG&gt; - Hasn't faced grade I company yet, but a star in the making.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. &lt;STRONG&gt;Einstein&lt;/STRONG&gt; - Had a poor start in the Million, but the loss was more than just that.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Don't forget about: Any European. The Americans will have their hands full against all of them. All three that took money in Arlington Million might be back for BC.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;U&gt;Filly &amp;amp; Mare Turf&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. &lt;STRONG&gt;Mauralakana&lt;/STRONG&gt; - Gotta love her. She just knows how to get it done.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. &lt;STRONG&gt;Forever Together&lt;/STRONG&gt; - Diana was no fluke.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. &lt;STRONG&gt;Black Mamba&lt;/STRONG&gt; - Not BC nominated, but owners will probably fork over the cash.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Don't forget about: &lt;STRONG&gt;J'ray&lt;/STRONG&gt;: She narrowly lost to Mauralakana twice.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;U&gt;Sprint&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. &lt;STRONG&gt;Benny the Bull&lt;/STRONG&gt;: All he does is win. The way he powers down the stretch is breathtaking.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. &lt;STRONG&gt;J Be K&lt;/STRONG&gt; - Has never lost at less than a mile.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. &lt;STRONG&gt;Street Boss&lt;/STRONG&gt; - That's five in a row for the synthetic specialist.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Don't forget about: &lt;STRONG&gt;Kodiak Kowboy&lt;/STRONG&gt;: Highly-touted as a 2-year-old, he might be coming into his own.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;B&gt;&lt;U&gt;Mile&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. &lt;STRONG&gt;Kip Deville&lt;/STRONG&gt;: Pure miler is lightly-raced this year, but will be primed and ready for Santa Anita.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. &lt;STRONG&gt;Daytona&lt;/STRONG&gt; -Tired in American Handicap. A mile might be his best distance.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. &lt;STRONG&gt;Monzante&lt;/STRONG&gt; - Just beginning to hit his best stride.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Don't forget about: &lt;STRONG&gt;Red Giant&lt;/STRONG&gt;: Very impressive off a 10-month layoff. Not sure what his best distance is, but Pletcher will figure it out.&lt;/P&gt;
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