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re: Horse of the Year Debate--Why Do We Care So Much?

carolyn rogers — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:56:26 GMT

You know the funniest thing is , is the two stars we are argueing over don't have no earthly idea what is going on in the world about them. They are in their stalls waiting for their daily run, bath, and oats and hay. without a care in the world. Zenyatta knows when she hits the track that it's "Show Time", and RA knows it's time for bashing borel, They don't even know what a HOY is, unless they thought you were trying to say "Hay" as in food and maybe you said it wrong, other than that they could absolutely care less. They just go about their everyday life being beautiful and doing what they do best.

re: Horse of the Year Debate--Why Do We Care So Much?

carolyn rogers — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:48:52 GMT

MonicaV, you are exactly right. no one is going to change anyone esle's mind, they are already made up. we are all sticking to our guns. and you're right, it ain't going anywhere. just butting heads.

re: Horse of the Year Debate--Why Do We Care So Much?

carolyn rogers — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:46:00 GMT

Householder, You don't have to tell me anything about Zenyatta, I am a Die Hard Zenyatta fan, and to me she is the one and only, that's my partiality and RA fans have theirs. To ME, Zenyatta is a class above. Thats my perogative, you RA fans can have your own too.

re: Horse of the Year Debate--Why Do We Care So Much?

Greg J. — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:37:49 GMT

Dray,

Here is "Don't Blame the Cat's" Pedigree:

www.pedigreequery.com/dont+blame+the+cat

re: Horse of the Year Debate--Why Do We Care So Much?

Assault — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:24:25 GMT

Mike Relva,

Draynay's feelings were hurt this Breeders Cup.

His "Music Note" couldn't beat Zenyatta's stable mate.

re: Horse of the Year Debate--Why Do We Care So Much?

Assault — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:20:44 GMT

Don't Blame The Cat is going nowhere.

Find another bloodline for a derby candidate.

The only 3rd generation mare that was any good for this New York bred is "Terlingua".

re: Horse of the Year Debate--Why Do We Care So Much?

Assault — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:09:00 GMT

draynay,

Are you kidding me about looking up a pedigree?

You don't know much about horse racing if your asking a question like that.

The Pedigree Thoroughbred Online Database has been around for ever.

You rookie!

www.pedigreequery.com/dont+blame+the+cat

www.pedigreequery.com/zenyatta

re: Horse of the Year Debate--Why Do We Care So Much?

Mike Relva — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:57:54 GMT

SARATOGA AJ

I won't be "crying" in Jan. even if Zenyatta loses. I like RA as well. You see unlike some idiots,I can give credit to BOTH horses. I don't raise one and slam the other. But,I will admit I would be willing to spend alot of money to have seen your face when Zenyatta blew by the other eleven males a couple weeks back. Bet that was priceless! lol

re: Horse of the Year Debate--Why Do We Care So Much?

Mike Relva — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:20:39 GMT

DRAYNAY

You and I know that the real reason you continue to refer to Zenyatta as a poly specialist is to cushion the blow you felt for being wrong about her winning the Breeders'. I have zero doubt she would have won on dirt with no problem.

re: Horse of the Year Debate--Why Do We Care So Much?

MonicaV — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:44:56 GMT

I see the heated arguing is still going on. Let's face it guys, all the arguments in the world will not convince the person you are arguing against. You're just butting heads at this point and wasting your anger and passion on someone you can't convince. In the end, is it worth it? Really worth all the angst you're going through to argue?

re: Horse of the Year Debate--Why Do We Care So Much?

Householder — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:39:08 GMT

Carolyn Rogers. Not only did Zenyatta win on dirt she took out the Eclipse Award winning mare in the process. She then comes back to beat the runner up in the BC Lady's Classic Hysterical Lady.

I fail to see where all roads to HOY lead through Belmont, Churchill, or Saratoga. A second stringer (but a good mare in her own right) beat the best of the East.

Wasn't a "rested" Music Note supposed to beat Zenyatta?

The question is not how many times Zenyatta left California but rather how many times RA raced in California. From where I'm sitting this is where the competition was.

re: Horse of the Year Debate--Why Do We Care So Much?

Phil, horse racing fan — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:38:34 GMT

Having read all the comments on HOY I firmly believe the only relevant issue is that these two wonderful horses did not race against each other. For this we can blame synthetic tracks and the overly protective connections of each horse to avoid a race confrontation. As a result horse racing is the looser.

re: Horse of the Year Debate--Why Do We Care So Much?

Draynay — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:21:08 GMT

Anyone here happen to have the pedigree line for Don't Blame the Cat handy ?

re: Horse of the Year Debate--Why Do We Care So Much?

Karen2 — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:50:52 GMT

Saratoga AJ: I hate that I am even put in the position to defend one horse over the other but that is what has happened on these blogs. I find I have defended them both.

You say the great ones run on any "dirt" track...how convenient you left out synthetic. I guess if you can fault Zen for not running on a sloppy track after a long lay off, you can fault RA for not running in the classic because it was on synthetic. The pendulum swings both ways.

Some of these so called "facts" are so comical. This is so old already.. Leave these awesome horses alone..they are both worthy.

re: Horse of the Year Debate--Why Do We Care So Much?

Saratoga AJ — Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:44:41 GMT

Mike Relva and Lazmannick:

Zen scratched...Alexandra the Great never did. End of discussion, boys.

Come back with your excuses and crying in January...I'll be here and I'll try to feel your pain. LOL.

See you then!