Juvy Showdown: Boys vs. Mo

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Dr Drunkinbum — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 09:16:58 GMT

Yep, it was Mo and Boys alright with no one else even in the ballpark. Well, Jaycito was in the upper bleachers. I still say that Mo is undefeated going into the Derby, and will be the Derby fav. His path should be all mapped out soon if it isn't already. Jason, are you going to see if you can interview Todd soon and see if he has the path mapped out. Maybe he'd like to give an Eskendereya comparison eventhough their styles are different. He won't say who he would rather have, I'm sure but I'd still like to see how he responds. Maybe ask him also if he'll scratch the horse next time if he or she looks like Life At Ten did. Looks like a tremendous Derby Road coming up very soon.

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Monty — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 18:47:45 GMT

I really like "Jaycito" in this one with Mike Smith up. He's gotta a great stretch kick, and will be flying late ! Go Mikey !

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ruffianruns — Sun, 31 Oct 2010 04:56:50 GMT

So Murjan seems impressive. He's beat 3-year-olds already. I'm really looking forward to the boys Juvy. Uncle Mo, Boys, Jaycito, Stay Thirsty - Wow!

LDP - What is your take on the Classic? Of course, I think Zen is going to win going away, but you'll probably take another horse. And how are you doing with the Rachel Alexandra retirement? I'm still sad about her leaving, it was so sudden. I wrote a long letter to the Jacksons just telling them how much I love her and how much she meant to me. Oh, I thought it was really funny that you popped up when jayjay started getting paranoid!

jayjay - I know I owe you an email. I've been busy! Will you be able to make it to the BC?

Linda in Texas - Congrats on your Rangers winning their first Series game at home! I'm rooting for the Giants, but you've been such a good sport, I wanted to return the favor. Now if they get another win, I might not be so nice! :-)

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Mike Relva — Sat, 30 Oct 2010 22:31:51 GMT

LDP

How's it going? I think I know the other name you are using.

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LDP — Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:51:58 GMT

Oh jayjay,

I always watch. I'm on BH everyday.

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LAZMANNICK — Sat, 30 Oct 2010 00:35:26 GMT

screen prospect

Sounds like you know everything about racing, have been to all the tracks, seen all the contoversial and non-contrioversial incidents. I know I'm impressed. WOW!

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jayjay — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 23:56:18 GMT

There you are LDP, I always knew you watch my posts :)

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Saratoga AJ — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 20:04:58 GMT

Jason,

Rangers in 5??? :)

Pitching, pitching, pitching.

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Linda in Texas — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:20:49 GMT

Changing the subject - for a minute -

Congrats again Dr. Drunkinbum, hold your pose, YIKES Giants 9 Rangers Zip. Ouch. Maybe they can get themselves together when they get back on Texas soil.

Super Saver retired. KD winner and so young. That is a shame. Just shows how hard it is to keep them healthy and able to run.

And yes, that is an unspoken jab at anyone who thinks Brass Hat or Zenyatta or Lava Man or any of them running after 3 is easy to do.

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screen prospect — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:35:57 GMT

jayjay I had a different opinion than a few and expressed it. It was YOU who first fired back that my opinion means little as you didnt like what I had to say. Here is your first shot.

screen prospect : You sound just like any other zenyatta naysayers. They all say "Zenyatta" will not win the race, but then they can't pick ONE horse that they think will win, it's always the "FIELD", or "SOMEONE". Easy to be a handicapper when you pick ALL the horses except one lol. Oh and yeah, your opinion really only counts here, and you're in the very very minority group that thinks she's not one of the best of all time.

I meant no offense to anyone. My comment to PJJ maybe has a different view. Put it this way. Horses like Kelso or War Admiral and that era as well as Triple Crown winners had to race 3 races in 5 weeks carry top weight and still broke records. Competition was fierce. Think Alydar Affirmed. I read about those horses and what they did and how they did it and they were great. I would go and visit JOhn Henry and you see his size and think this horse did all of that. The bar to the top 20 is real high. Remember when Zen was 1 behind or tied to PP and the comments you made. Zen was better even if she had lost one. Perfect record is not everything or you would say Zen is better than Secretariat. I would not have bought a breyer model at the horse park if I didnt have respect for her. I didnt blow 50.00 because I am rich. I have 2 Zen and Big Red. BTW I dont claim to be smarter than anyone. AS you well know picking a winner is not always about brains. I picked Alphabet Soup OTN and had the exacta and tri straight. It wasnt because I was smart. It was I had an opinion and it was right that day. My filly beat the boys as she was special. People thought I was an idiot when i claimed her. I have a soft spot for fillies. I have Serana's shoe she threw Breeders Cup day on my wall. SBD was great. Spain won more but not as good IMO. WIn loose or draw I think Zen is the best I have seen of her sex a very long time. IMO better than Cigar not Citation. I loved my filly more than you know. Broke my heart to loose her. I know you people love Zen. Good for you and good for racing.

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screen prospect — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:06:55 GMT

Mike I bet her last year. It was her preferred surface.

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screen prospect — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 13:06:00 GMT

Zookeeper I think many posting here have downgraded the competition. I think LAL has a shot but I dont like his last race. I think he needed more. The bullet he fired gives me more to think about. I think I have to see the past performances they are in the bloodhorse this week. I know QR ran fast but I know that does not mean he is the fastest. Churchill can be tricky. Spain and Caressing were not the best and not the fasted and won. AT 50-1 who had that ticket?I think one difference that does NOT make me a naysayer is that if I think she is much the best I would bet her on the nose at 2-1. I hope the field is full and no horse has any excuses.

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LDP — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 11:27:28 GMT

Jayjay,

You miss me that much that you can sense me watching? Wow. No screen prospect is not me, sorry to burst your bubble.

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Zookeeper — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 03:45:13 GMT

screen prospect,

She was beatable in every race she ever entered. With her running style, it's the nature of the beast. Things won't be any different this time around. I don't blame you for looking elsewhere for better odds.

My question was (and still is) which of those "not so great horses" do you think will get the job done?

My original objection wasn't about what you said about the mare (believe me, we've heard it all) it was that you were already down-grading the quality of the competition.

Anyway, peace and good luck!

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jayjay — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 02:38:03 GMT

screen prospect : you insinuated that he's not as smart as you.

I quote you :

" Jayjay to say you think I am wrong is fine. To say first that my opnion means little then to try to tell me your means so much wont get you far. You have shown in your other posts your biased. "

And I quote you again, this time from your Oct 27th 8:52PM post :

" Jayjay well your opinion means little. "

I guess you made your point, your biased. :) Of course you're on Jason's side on this one. I've not said anything negative to you that you didn't ask for. Jason thinks "objective" is a word that only applies to Zen fans. He would never use that word against QR or Blame, because, well, he doesn't like Zen. If you took the time to read my posts, you should take the time to read Jason's.

And while you're at it, why don't you read your posts so you are aware of what you say before you repeat it again. I don't know why, but I sense LDP roaming around here....

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Mike Relva — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 02:30:26 GMT

SCREEN PROSPECT

You probably said she would lose last year,also. You talk about us being bias regarding Zenyatta,sounds like you don't like a different opinion than yours. I'll say what I said last year prior to the Breeders',alot of people's worlds will collapse in one frame when Zenyatta wins. lol

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screen prospect — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 01:36:51 GMT

Jayjay show me where I insulted PJJ. I didnt. I said I can name 20 horses as of right now that are better than Zen. That can all change on BC day.

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screen prospect — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 01:31:27 GMT

Jayjay to say you think I am wrong is fine. To say first that my opnion means little then to try to tell me your means so much wont get you far. You have shown in your other posts your biased. As Jason said many are not objective when it comes to Zen. I am more in his camp when it comes to Zen. I will look it over when I get the form and if I think she is the best play to win I will bet on her and hope I cash. If I dont wager on her and she beats me I will have seen something I may never see again.

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screen prospect — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 01:25:06 GMT

Zookeeper I have had my share of horses that I adore and followed. Some won huge on BC day some didnt make it. I loved Curlin after his Derby race. He showed alot to me then. Before I didnt think much of him. He proved it to me. Ghostzapper was a nice horse. I have been to cali 4 times for Breeders cup. I saw Skip Away win I saw Kotashan win. I loved Tikkanen and Hatoof ran 2nd the best mare on turf across the pond. It was huge payday. I have had my favorites break my heart as well. Housebuster for one. Best Pal. I am glad I can go back to Santa Anita IF they ever get Breeders again now that they are going back to dirt. Lone Star was great. I hope this BC yields horses that will excite us in 2011.

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screen prospect — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 01:10:44 GMT

Oh I see what happened. I read the other blog posts. Seems like jayjay zookeeper and mike have had issues with anyone commenting about Zen. makes perfect sense to me. I see nobody can have a different opinion. I have seen Housebuster get clipped int he chest on Breeders Day. I have seen mant horses breakdown in the Belmont. You know the names. I have seen AP scratch the am of Derby. I have no idea who I will wager on when I am at churchill until they draw. Then I have to see if the go in the gate. You people act like the field is drawn Zen is in and its all over.You have her winning premature at best. I hope it goes well and all get in and have a clean trip. Zen has been great for racing. I hope someone can pick up where she left off and be the face of racing. Zen is very beatable in the classic.

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PJJ — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 21:37:24 GMT

If some of you naysayers want to continue to down grade Zenyatta, then think about this, SS has been retired, with injury with alot less races than Zenyatta , the other colts that have retired this year due to injury have been retired with alot less races than Zenyatta, now they cant help having injuries, but the bottom line is this, Zenyatta has ran longer than most of them, being six years old , no injuries to date causing an early retirement, beating tough fillies , giving them all the extra distance , then she kicks it into her next gear just to mow them down in time before they can get to the wire. She is doing all this at six years old. You want to tell me this isnt an incredible horse? You damn right she is, And she has never lost, Yes, she can lose, but if she ever loses, It sure won't be by margins the colts have lost to.

This horse is definintly one for the ages, I expect we will never see another one like her that can withstand the test of time like she has, still doing it with her ears pricked like she is playing with the others.

Accept it naysayers. This is what a miracle looks like....Show me another one that compares to her.

Better yet, show me a colt that has won 19 races consectulively without a loss and just getting tired and not wanting to run that day and just lost? She hasnt, she has held her on to the finish line 19 times......

Zenyatta , you're one in a million.........Or should I say , ONe in millions......

Making history every single day......

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Zen's Auntie — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 20:58:29 GMT

Sigh.... I just got the update - Im not even sure where to comment about this except that I guess 2 year olds will be the whole game if we dont quit this stuff so here goes.

All right, I know he won the Derby in the slop under "borail" but really?? another 3 year old retired to stud after not lasting even the whole 3 year old year - wow - SURE... sounds great, lets breed a Bit MORE for unsoundness shall we??

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jayjay — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 20:31:07 GMT

Draynay : Zenyatta beat Citation's consecutive wins record :) (you're right, mentioning those two on a post to you is very funny) LOL

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jayjay — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 20:27:58 GMT

screen prospect : don't turn it to "you're attacking me!" argument. You insult PJJ's comment, then you cry about my post to you as insulting lol. Don't argue if you can't take responses not favoring your opinion.

I responded to your post about Zenyatta not belonging to the greatest horses of all time. That's your opinion and it really only counts here, because Zenyatta beat Citation and Cigar and Eclipse's record. I never said she's better than Citation, if you're going to try and twist my word, make sure you can prove it. I said she broke their record for consecutive wins, she belongs to with the greatest horses of all time...not MARE, HORSE. She's earned it, regardless of what you think.

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Linda in Texas — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:44:13 GMT

Dr. Drunkinbum - Congrats - Your Giants win the first game, so take a bow, but not too long and don't get comfortable!!

And Good Luck to Everybody on the WS and the BC Races, hope your dreams and bets make you all experts and millionaires.