Division Rankings With Two Weeks and Counting

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JordanA — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:44:32 GMT

Sam, It seemed worse to me than normal. Some horsemen said the same. Also recorded TVG and the ex trainers on there seemed a little put off by that. Of course the rest of the work was easy peasy. Casino Drive seems to have a similar running style and well, I just hope for an exciting race, don't want to see a runaway.

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Sam — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:45:43 GMT

Jordan,

The head cocked on Curlin has been a habit that has been going on for some time. Assmussen, has mentioned it several times.... but, still there.

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the_wiz — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:24:15 GMT

draynay is still hangin out here bashing anyone who looked objectively at the kind of racehorse Big Brown WAS?

The lasting memory I will have of Brownie will not be that he ran with grit but that he spit the bit in the biggest race of his life when the going got tough. He never proved that he could overcome adversity against REAL top class competition since he never faced any. Nuff said, let's move on to bigger and better animals than Big Brown.

Curlin while the likely favorite in the Classic will have his hands full. If he pulls this one off on a "fake surface" that is totally foreign to him he will go down as one of the greats. If he's beaten it won't diminish what he's done elsewhere. Good luck to him.

The rest of the card is wide open and I am expecting something a bit different than last year where a number of favorites won. I'll be playing the gimmicks since that's where the big money will be. I love the big race day's where the pools are overflowing with the novice players money.

To the pure race fans, feast your eyes on Curlin and the rest and enjoy the day. It only comes along once a year.

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Householder — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:10:15 GMT

Matthew W. Your probably right, but watching a Culin romp is not any fun. Let us at least pretend we can somehow beat him.

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Monica V — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:04:45 GMT

Jordan,

It appears to me that Curlin really loves this Pro-Ride just by the way he jogs and gallops. He appears to be ready to go. A great sign! I really wonder if the European horses will love it that much. Curlin prefers dirt and he's loving it at SA!

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Monica V — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:01:56 GMT

Jordan,

He's does get too eager when he runs. Robby said he was too keen in the Jaguar Cup and kept him on the far outside. This horse wants to run when he's feeling really good. Most of the time he rates but for some reason in Dubai he just wanted to take off and it looks to me as though he really wants to run at Santa Anita. There's no doubt that he feels terrific and the heat doesn't seem to bother him. If he remains that way I look for a fantastic effort from him. He loves the fall.

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JordanA — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:22:37 GMT

Monica, What did you think about the way he had his head cocked in the early going? I was trying to go back and look at other works and see if he did that. Wonder if it signals that he might get too eager? That was the only thing that wasn't perfect.

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Monica V — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:40:10 GMT

Joan,

Every horse in the classic is a threat to Curlin. No race is a given, anything can happen. Casino Drive does look wonderful as he travels and he looks tremendous. He is only 3 and he has only 3 races that's a bit of of hindrance but if he gets a good trip watch out! One thing I will say about Curlin while watching his last workout is he is as smooth as silk in his gate, you could almost balance a cup of tea on his saddle while he runs and watching his entire body while he runs, that horse has power he has never even used. If Curlin ever really goes full out we'll all see something we've never seen before.

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JordanA — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:01:20 GMT

Matthew, It's all good. Just think how they could hype the two girls and get everybody dying to watch them. Course that would drive up the price of Baby Zenyatta and ruin my plans to buy her.

Wizard,

The Duke didn't look so great in the Arc. Henry got beat but he looked pretty good, can he go that distance? Of course that's WHY they still run these races, never know what's going to happen.

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schabelli — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:41:53 GMT

MIKE: Gray Stevens who ever he is must have been hanging out with Pat Valenzuela too much to make a statement like that.

Regardless the point I was making since you had a tough time understanding is that the distance Big Brown travelled to the first turn was insignifigantly longer and it was done with no trouble. In simpler words for you, he had no disadvantage from that post on that day, it actually benefited him to start there.

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slyder — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:32:40 GMT

Pyro if he goes in the "dirt mile" Saratoga 007? Did they move the venue and forget to tell us?

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Saratoga 007 — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 13:18:18 GMT

If Pyro goes in DIRT MILE - BET HIM

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The Wizard — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:55:59 GMT

Looks like Aiden O'Brien will enter both Henrythenavigator and Duke of Marmalade in the Classic. These two are among the top horses in Europe. Both have won a bunch of Group One (Grade One here) races this year in Europe. They may end up being the toughest challengers for Curlin.

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Matthew W — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:54:51 GMT

Householder, you've got me wrong a bit---I DO like Tiago, Col John, Go Between in Classic---to vie for 2-4 positions behind--and behind enough to SEE--Curlin's behind!

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Matthew W — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:50:46 GMT

Jordan A: SORRY! I was pounding those keys--venting at the powers that be--thru my comments to you! I KNOW/knew you were agreeing with me! They're putting the fillies on Friday so as to emulate the Ky Oaks tradition of day before Derby....the thing is, THAT makes sense, but the Breeders Cup is supposed to be America's Championship Day---and they mess it up! Very good fillies are going to run--Friday! Champions are going to be annointed--Friday!

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Bradgm — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:26:56 GMT

Okay Wanda, what did you do in Kentucky? Saw they got word of your plan to recruit Jordan to buy 20% of Curlin and the courts in Kentucky have a motion to block the sale.

Jason, I think we have some undercover posters on here. Always thought Wanda was a mysterious lady. (of course you know I'm kidding Wanda, although not so much about Jordy) Have to say that your blog, Steve's, Dan's and Scot's are the blogs of choice.

So as soon as the pre-entries are announced you'll be firing the starters pistol I assume? Can't wait!

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Monica V — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:05:26 GMT

Draynay,

I do have to say something to you. I know how much you love Big Brown, everybody does. You don't like anyone saying anything about BB but you have had one hell of a field day slamming Curlin. But that's okay, right? After all, Curlin is a lousey horse, a one trick dirt pony as you put it, who never beat anyone. This is all documented on these blogs. Why is that okay? Why is it okay for you to say all those hateful things about Curlin but it's not okay for anyone to say anything in the negative about Big Brown? I have been attacked by you and one other about that yet you and the other have never run to the defense of Curlin when people attack him, of course, you being the biggest attacker. Now, to be realistic, anything you have said about Curlin has not made one IOTA of difference in his world. He is very happy at Santa Anita and well cared for. He is rated the NUMBER ONE horse in the world and nothing, absolutely nothing you can say can change what he has accomplished and how great he is. Same goes for Big Brown. Anyone saying what they feel changes nothing the horse has accomplished. Nothing. BB is not standing in his stall reading this blog crying over what has been written.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I just don't get it when a zealot thinks that should not be alowed. It's okay for you to bash but no one else.

I'm sorry for BB, I truly am and I am not at all happy about it. I think it sucks that his connections didn't retire him sooner. I am also sorry for you to have lost your favorite horse, I know how that is.

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Monica V — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:39:24 GMT

Mmmmm. It always fascinates me when someone is so adamant about a horse to the point of picking fights about it. I don't understand that, it's as though no one can have an opinion that differs from theirs.

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Monica V — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:36:11 GMT

Wanda

I'd go for a piece of Curlin in a minute! The only problem is, we'd probably have to get 500 others to join in! I cannot imagine how much 20% would cost!

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Joan Cowin — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:06:19 GMT

I think it's funny to hear people say that CD is not in the same catagory as Curlin and cannot be compared. Let's remember that were comparing a 3 year old to a 4 year old. Also, I think it's fair to say that everyone is going to keep their eyes on CD as being a potential threat to Curlin in the Classic which makes me think to myself that if he is a threat to Curlin now at 3, what do you think he is going to be like as a 4 year old? My answer is: SUPERIOR

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JordanA — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:31:14 GMT

Only if he has more hair than Gary, otherwise he's not gray at all.

Man the BC needs to get here pronto.

Rock, Don't really know for sure who's in yet, saw a couple but will wait to see if they're in.

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Wanda — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:23:04 GMT

Isn't Gray Stevens Gary Stevens uncle?

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JordanA — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:09:47 GMT

Wanda, Not nearly enough, besides, I don't want him. I want the filly Stardom Bound. Gotta win the lottery.

Matter of Opinion, Love it. Course he was talking about Gray Stevens, you remember him don't you.

RELVA, KILL THE CAPS DUDE.

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THE ROCK — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 21:05:50 GMT

ANYBODY HAVE ANY SLEEPERS IN THE JUVENILE TURF RACES? ANY HORSES THEY KNOW OF THAT HAD TROUBLE FOR VALUE?

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Wanda — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:52:24 GMT

Jordan how much money have you got? Let's go in together and buy that 20% of Curlin. Anybody else want in?