Mo, The Factor on Dirt Mile Collision Course?

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jimmy redneck — Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:11:24 GMT

Unca Schmoe hasn't won a race in nearly a year now. Going to the Classic would be another guranteed loss. Unca Schmoe will not win the Br. Cup Classic!!

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Forbidden Apple — Wed, 07 Sep 2011 23:20:48 GMT

Householder,

If Zenyatta won the photo over Blame, many would still not respect her amazing talent and pure determination.

First Hilda's Passion was retired, up next is Uncle Mo. I'm not happy about it, because I was looking forward to betting against the average horse named Uncle Mo. It's only a matter of time before someone within the racing world reports on a retired Mo. Some of you might call it a backstretch rumor, but soon it will be a reality.

I don't believe that a weight break had anything to do with the powerful performance by Havre De Grace. I just don't get it when people cry over 2 or 3 pounds when we are dealing with a 1,000 pound animal.

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Householder — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 22:58:17 GMT

2:24. Just sayin...Jones seemed to talk a lot about weight after Blind Luck beat HDG with a 2 lb weight break.

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2:24 — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 20:34:16 GMT

Smoking Baby - Smarty Jones didn't win Horse of the Year.

Householder - you think three pounds made any difference in The Woodward. Come on, you're better than that. Also, didn't Zenyatta receive a similar weight disparity each time she ran against males.

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Householder — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:53:24 GMT

It's funny that Larry Jones has not mentioned Havre De Grace's 3 pound weight break and how this accounted for her win.

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Householder — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:46:02 GMT

Forbidden Apple. Not to mention Zenyatta's first start against the boys was in the Breeder's Cup! No "tune-up," No trouncing of Grade-3, allowance types. The real deal. No hiding.

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Smoking Baby — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:40:12 GMT

Mathew W. Too funny. The thing is...I can deal with losing my money (mostly because I so used to it) but for a horse to get me clowned by the lady not once but twice? This The Dude will NOT abide.

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Smoking Baby — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 18:30:58 GMT

Jersey Boy. Good point. Why is it that certain groups seem to be REQUIRED to step outside their division for validation and others aren't? We can give a 3 year old Horse of the Year having never faced much less defeated older horses and not bat an eye (I'm not convinced the 3 year old Seattle Slew could've beaten the older Forego and I'm REALLY not convinced the 3 year old Smarty Jones could've beaten Candy Ride). And you never hear "OK...But let's see him run on the turf." Just saying...

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Weekend — Tue, 06 Sep 2011 13:14:08 GMT

damn, hater's are just gonna hate!

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LAZMANNICK — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 02:28:02 GMT

So what are you saying Sylvester? That if Blind Luck would have run in the Woodward she would ahve won it?

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JerseyBoy — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 00:31:50 GMT

Smoking Baby:

Agreed.

My point is that there is some kind of bias against females in the media, so females have to beat some males to become legitimate, no matter if the males are a sorry bunch.

Beating males should not be a requirement for greatness. Beating top-class horses should be the only requirement.

She is superior to the horses she ran against on Saturday. That is why I said that beating them should not be treated as anything special.

Note, she handled them quite easily in 1.49.18. Stay Thirsty won in 1.48.78 (on a different day , of course).

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Matthew W — Mon, 05 Sep 2011 00:20:28 GMT

Smoking Baby I took a beating on Sidney as well--but to tout him to your galpal and get a pop and stop like that--she can go all over the place with that one!

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Stevebiscuit — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 20:32:13 GMT

Man Toddsy Woddsy can't even get a loaded gun to go off in his hand. They should send Sidney's Candy to a real horseman, not a salesman! Havre De Grace's win was impressive, but it was against a group of weak older horses coming out of a tough Whitney. The fact that the second choice in the betting was no more than a grade 2 winner shows just how pathetic the field was. Not only that, but Havre De Grace had the perfect set up both pace-wise and trip-wise. For me, all this win does is move Blind Luck up, for what could be better than beating the horse who went on the win the Woodward! Rick Porter and Larry Jones should be thankful that Blind Luck didn't show up. She would have smoked this field. If HOTY was voted on today here's how it should look 1)Acclamation 2) Tizway 3) Blind Luck 4) Havre De Grace.

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Sylvester — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 18:41:49 GMT

Mike true to form you were wrong and I was right. Havre de Grace smokes the boys. Too bad Hollendorfer pulled a Zenyatta and hid in CA.

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Smoking Baby — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:06:01 GMT

Jersey Boy, I tend to agree but you've got to admit that was a nice win against some pretty decent horses. Certainly a better group than Rachel Alexandra for all her hype was all out to beat. I'm off Sydney's Candy now. The two times I've told my girlfriend about him (Derby and yesterday)she's wound up laughing at me and saying "Oh you can sure pick'em."

Jason, have a GREAT weekend in Wisconsin. I bet it's nice up there.

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Forbidden Apple — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:27:39 GMT

So Uncle Mo is brilliant for losing another race? Caleb's Posse was a much stronger and determined horse. If not for the speed favoring track, he would have opened up on Uncle Mo. It's funny, I don't remember Zenyatta being described as brilliant after her only loss.

If Mo shows up in the Pa derby he is in a world of trouble. A horse named Rattlesnake Bridge has plenty of venom waiting for his rivals. This is a horse that came into the Travers off from a 7 week layoff and still ran a huge race. He was within 1 1/2 lengths of Stay Thirsty, another horse who was described as brilliant. The snake galloped out well and was not even blowing after the race. He lost to a better horse that day, his best is yet to come.

Gunbow,

In a previous blog you said that Rattlesnake Bridge did not win the Travers because he was not classy enough. I don't get it, by running second he beat other grade I winners in only his 6th career race. Trust me, he has plenty of class and is a stronger horse coming out of the race. His fitness level is improving with every start. The problem is that his mind is not 100% focused on his job.

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JJW — Sun, 04 Sep 2011 00:43:10 GMT

havre de grace will deserve horse of the year if she wins a breeders cup race. that's their goal. they're not going to quit now like rachel alexandra did.

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Paula Higgins — Sat, 03 Sep 2011 22:41:54 GMT

WOOHOO HDG ran a great race!!!!!! Oh yea of little faith. I knew she could beat the boys. I think she should go for the classic. Blind Luck too.

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LAZMANNICK — Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:29:47 GMT

GunBow

Hope you get this on time. If you aren't aware,there is a huge night of harness racing at Mohawk tonight with mulitple stakes including the one million dollar Metro Pace for two year olds and the 800 thousand Canadian Pacing Derby for free for all pacers.

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Carlos in Cali — Sat, 03 Sep 2011 17:14:48 GMT

Pedigree Ann,

My point is the males in the Woodward are certainly not just ordinary horses and IMO- HDG is not a spectacular filly.If she was the lone speed horse in the race then yes I'd give her a chance,but that's not the case.It takes a very special F/M to beat males while up on the pace,especially if it's heated.Heck,she didn't even put-up much of a fight in last yr's BCLadies Classic.This is a salty group of veterans who'll make her run every step of the way,unlike the overmatched foes she's faced @ Delaware Park.

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thomas — Sat, 03 Sep 2011 15:45:03 GMT

i flat out in the woodward and i like jersey town and akenite in the forego. the PE i guess ill go with protesting and tiz miz sue again

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Jason Shandler — Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:50:06 GMT

Hey guys: Im in Milwaukee for the weekend. See you guys next week. Happy Labor Day.

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Mike Relva — Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:32:08 GMT

I think Flat Out will prevail today, also SC.

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JerseyBoy — Sat, 03 Sep 2011 12:42:47 GMT

A columnist wrote:

"Havre de Grace can put herself into the discussion for Horse of the Year if she is able to beat males in Saturday’s Grade 1, $750,000 Woodward Stakes “.

Beating this bunch should not qualify her for anything, but this is the sort of nonsense that gets written. A mare beats males in a Grade 1 stake and that makes her top notch. That is because the males are oh so superior.

She is racing against average stakes winners. This is not Rags to Riches running in the Belmont.

Even if Havre de Grace crushes this field it should not matter.

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Draynay — Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:11:43 GMT

Rule wins. 3rd off a layoff and Castellano on board and Pletcher is on fire. Forego? Hamazing Grace was set up for this race to win it. Bet it all on Hamazing to win.