Humble Pie

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LAZMANNICK — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:15:18 GMT

Greg J

I tried to answer and thank you before, but I probably didn't push the submit button and left the Blog.......Yep, that's the one, one of the most bazaar and amazing finishes I have ever seen. I've seen horse get passed and come back again many times, but not like that. It was incredible. LOL and have a good one.

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Mike Relva — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:07:11 GMT

GREG J

Thanks to you also for supporting Zenyatta as well every horse.

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Footlick — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:10:10 GMT

Just watched the YouTube. They said it was the Flamingo, but I remembered it as the Florida Derby. Oh well.

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Footlick — Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:02:10 GMT

He just had this talent for knowing where the finish line was and how much effort he had to put into it and literally refused to put more into it than he had to. I remember when they scratched him out of the Rockingham Park race because he refused to train and Baeza said if they don't scratch him he would refuse to ride him. Buckpasser was some ridiculously low odds in the race. It caused quite a furor.

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Footlick — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:52:12 GMT

Yeah- that was the beginning of his quarter crack and Buckpasser never liked to extend himself if he thought he was going to get hurt. There is also his Flamingo win, and a win at two where he came from way out of it. I love watching him run. Abe's Hope then went on to beat Graustark in the Blue Grass as Graustark broke his leg in that race.

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Greg J. — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:24:53 GMT

LAZMANNICK,

I believe the race you are talking about is when Buckpasser thought he had it easy until he saw Abe's Hope fly by on the outside, Then he decided to run him down! Amazing comeback, Here is the Video...

www.youtube.com/watch

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LAZMANNICK — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:18:49 GMT

Footlcik

I saw an incredible race Buckpasser was in on YouTube. I think (I might be wrong without looking it up) that in this race, Buckpasser came from away back and took the lead near the top of the stretch (by at least a length), loped along and then was passed by I think it was Barb's Delight, who actually opened up a length and a half on him, and then Buckpasser decided that that was enough and took off again and turned what looked to be sure defeat into a marvellous victory. In many years of watching races I have never seen a horse come back in a situation like that. If you haven't seen it, it is probably on more than one YouTube sight if you go through them.......The only desperate finishes I can remember seeing in a N/A race that rivaled that were Personal Ensign in the Distaff (Winning Colors) and Zen's close in the Hirsch.

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Footlick — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 04:30:21 GMT

Thanks Carolyn, Laz, Mike, Vic and Greg- It's hard coming after having to defend Zarkava for basically the same reasons last year. If a horse doesn't blow their opposition away they get slighted. When Buckpasser started his 4 yr old season they took him out West. Johnny Campo was the assistant trainer at the time. He wasn't sold on Buckpasser being as great as everyone said because he never won by much and they had to run horses as a relay team to get him to train. So when Buckpasser looked like he was hopelessly beaten, he thought see, this is what I was afraid of. At the 16th pole, still looking hopelessly beaten, Buckpasser suddenly decided to accelerate. Campo said in 4 strides Buckpasser closed the gap and won going away. Then, he said, so that's what the big deal is

Zenyatta has never let a horse finish in front of her. Zarkava had never let a horse finish in front of her. Nothing went right for either of them in their last races, the BCC and the Arc respectively, but they still won as easy as they won their other races. That is what will make their legend. And it was nice of Mr Shirreffs to comment on one of Steve's blogs thanking all of Zenyatta's fans for their support and saying how much he, his wife and the Mosses appreciate it.

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Mike Relva — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:29:48 GMT

CAROLYN ROGERS

I totally agree w/you!

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Mike Relva — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:17:49 GMT

GLADIATOR

You don't have the FIRST CLUE!

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carolyn rogers — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:22:32 GMT

Footlick, don't pay attention to these Zenyatta haters. they can't stand the truth, because they know you're telling the truth, don't be rivaled by immature rejects, believe you me, they are running scared, if they want to throw stones, they need to throw them at JJ he is the one that thought he had his crap all wrapped up this year, jumping up buying a horse then run her in 4 races just to make a name for himself, this time it may come back to bite him in his butt. If they can't handle the truth, they don't need to blog, because blogs are opinions. If they ain't Jesus Christ himself then they can't guaranttee who will get the HOTY,furthermore, They may end up like Mr. Jackson,counting them chickens before they hatch. Hang in there brother,they are not as knowledgable as you, laz,vic,and so many others are. To everyone who stands by Zenyatta, hang in there,we have to make our voices heard, Remember one thing, when real american descent people know you are speaking the truth,they may not like it but they don't act like 5 year old children and start name calling-immature brats sounds like to me.

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Vic S — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:40:53 GMT

RIP Bobby Frankel

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Mike Relva — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:01:02 GMT

FOOTLICK,LAZMANNICK

I admire you for showing undying support for Zenyatta!

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Mike Relva — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:58:51 GMT

VIC S

Thanks! I've been a strong supporter of Zenyatta from the beginning,not just this yr. Thanks for your support as well. Now that she's done,what many idiots felt was impossible,they want to spin and make excuses. So,it's a catch 22. She's a superhorse. Simon Bray of TVG stated after the race,she's one of the best he's ever seen. That's saying alot since as you probably he was asst. trainer to the great Cigar.

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carolyn rogers — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:23:04 GMT

I'm sorry folks, my bad, Curlin won the BCC in "07".

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Footlick — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:13:40 GMT

I want to express my condolences to Bobby Frankel's family and friends. He was an amazing trainer and will be greatly missed.

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carolyn rogers — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:15:35 GMT

Laz,Footlick, Vic, can't you see how scared the RA supporters are getting, Zenyatta has turned their world upside down. I read Steve's latest entry, and I must say it brought me to tears, He truly put all of Zenyatta's accomplishments on paper, I am a fan of RA too. but I give her the three year old campaign, she still has another year to prove herself, especially for longer distances and the BCC next year. She is not the strongest contender for HOTY this year because she has more to prove, Zenyatta doesn't, They just have to hope RA can follow in the queen's footsteps next year. I believe Zen will get the HOTY award this year, look how her career has ended, richest North American filly ever-makes HISTORY, only filly to ever compete in the Classic, and win it-makes HISTORY, she retires UNDEFEATED passing Personl Ensigns record-makes HISTORY again. I don't like the way JJ just plucked RA and ran her in four races just to make a name for himself, the Mosses and John Shirriffs care more for Zenyatta than a name for themselves, Yes,Footlick, I am a warrior for Zenyatta and I will be forever,Zenyatta ran an amazing campaign for two years one we may never see again.RA has another year to prove, she has done great for a three year old campaign like I said before. I compare RA to that of BB last year, and Zenyatta's to that of Curlin's . Zenyatta has alot of fans on these blogs I see, She has really opened up a can of worms by being so damn perfect this year and last year,and doing what Curlin couldn't do, winning the classic and being the first filly to ever do so. Look, I don't care how nasty RA fans want to get, it just shows they are getting fearful of the situation, of the awards. They know Zenyatta is gainging momentum every day. Good Day to you all.

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Greg J. — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 06:04:39 GMT

Footlick,

I think Gladiator is using his screen name as one of the common definitions for the word, "person engaging in a public fight or controversy", I don't think he knows anything about a code of conduct :)

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Footlick — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:53:51 GMT

Gladiator- I just read your comment to me. And you are sorry in more than one sense. It's called respect for others and you obviously don't have it, whether it's Laz, or Zenyatta or the Mosses or the Shirreffs. Even Gladiators had a code of conduct. Maybe you should learn it.

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Footlick — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:28:37 GMT

Laz- I have said over and over again , give RA HOY. It's not a big deal like it used to be. Zenyatta will be remembered long after this HOY. There is a difference between a horse who has to go all out and a horse who never has to go all out. Just like the difference between Zarkava and Goldikova. I have had a long week finishing three commisions and maybe I'm a little strung out, but I'm tired of the insults and the condescension of some people on here.

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Vic S — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:24:08 GMT

I know footlick. I too am tired of all the people knocking Zenyatta.

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LAZMANNICK — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 04:04:56 GMT

Footlick:

If you read the comments to Haskin's post you will see that there really are a lot of Zenyatta supporters out there, and knowledgeable people too, not spur of the moment so-called racing fans......With regards to Rachel, I can see your point about her not being the second coming.......I have always felt that way and have been a staunch supporter of the Great Mare......However, I am serious when I say that if Rachel gets HOY, I won't feel offended......On paper anyway, she did have a rewarding season and as a horse, I really fell for her when she took all that punishment and abuse in the Woodward and came back to the winner's circle and you could see the strees flowing right out of her eyeballs......She is still a pretty good horse, but there is only ONE ZENYATTA, definitely a privilege to watch and one for the ages......hang in there pal.

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Footlick — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:50:11 GMT

Laz- just read it. It is a brilliant article. But it won't sway anyone, and I guess I really don't care. I want to mention some 3 yr old fillies who were as impressive as RA, so people don't think that I went off the deep end. Genuine Risk went 1-2-2 in a 5 wk span in the triple crown. Chris Evert won the filly triple. Dark Mirage won the filly triple. Mom's Command won the filly triple- and she was a sprinter by breeding!!! Ruffian won the filly triple and set a track or stakes record in seven starts, equaled the stakes record at 12 furlongs in the other one. Davona Dale won the filly triple. If they had to run against fields the quality of Macho Again and Bullsbay they would have run and won the Woodward. How about La Prevoyante who beat the best sprinters in the country in the True North. How about Wait a While, who was one of the top turf fillies in the country at 3. And tht isn't even mentioning the European ones. She is not unique. I would put any of these fillies up against her. She is not the second coming of Secretariat- to quote DW Lucas about Arazi. This will be my last post on the subject. I will not be drawn out by LOF or SAJ or any of the others again. Do all you RA supporters really think that there has never been a 3 yr old filly that can run with her? Then none of you know thoroughbred history! Sorry but those ARE the facts.

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Footlick — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:25:37 GMT

Jason- I apologize in adavnce if I have come on too strong. I try to be respectful but I have had enough.

Laz- I haven't read it, but I will right now. I have no hope though whether they will realize how great a thoroughbred Zenyatta is. They'd rather tout a 3 yr old who had to be whipped to death in the last two races. Zarkava was never whipped once and Goldikova couldn't warm her up. Both of them are lengths better than RA. Sorry,but it is true.

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Footlick — Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:20:12 GMT

Vic- I said I wouldn't but you know I will. All they have to do is make another statement like the one about Gio Ponti not being the best turf horse or how there is no way Zenyatta could run down a struggling RA and I will be right back. I am a millitant artist- I do not back down from the truth. I know I can count on you to bring it on also. I am so tired of the condescending attitude of some of them.