Finding Stallion Prospects: It's Not Always About Money

re: Finding Stallion Prospects: It's Not Always About Money

Your Only Friend — Thu, 05 Jan 2012 15:25:54 GMT

Fashionable Pedigree in Kentucky ...bloodlines too Mr.Prospector/Seattle........there are other lines that are very attractive /West Coast/Europe.....Kentucky Breeders seem too have mind set / start looking further into other lines . Any business that has closed mind eventually fails.

re: Finding Stallion Prospects: It's Not Always About Money

Your Only Friend — Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:43:21 GMT

Good stallion can come from anywhere.....Kentucky Breeders are hungup on the Mr. Prospecter,Seattle Bloodlines.....some good lines are coming from overseas and out West.... Kentucky Breeders are very aware of this and their investment.

re: Finding Stallion Prospects: It's Not Always About Money

Your Only Friend — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 17:59:08 GMT

Kentucky Breeders better get use too other Stallions out West coming to the forefront....Kentucky Breeders are all hungup on bloodlines of Mr. Prospector/Seattle slew.....now others are showing up , they better get use too looking at other lines. Understand its their livihood in tough business that is hard too survive.

re: Finding Stallion Prospects: It's Not Always About Money

Your Only Friend — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 13:49:48 GMT

Kentucky breeders believe there are no other stock like theirs....all the bloodlines flow too Mr. Prospector/Seattle Slew.....where I believe some new blood is starting too come around out West....Kentucky breeders better pay attention....they ain't the only game in town anymore.....

re: Finding Stallion Prospects: It's Not Always About Money

Your Only Friend — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:07:17 GMT

Why would anyone be surprised with top stallions out west.....just because they ain't from Kentucky does not mean they ain't anygood and cannot produce......sounds like breeders in Kenutcky are worried about loosing their foothold.....there is more too breeding good stock other than bloodlines of Mr. Prospector/Seattle Slew.

re: Finding Stallion Prospects: It's Not Always About Money

Your Only Friend — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:30:54 GMT

Kentucky may not like some of the Stallions from Outwest because do not like the competition....thinking if you ain't from Kentucky you ain't nothing.......perhaps they maybe wrong.....some nice horses are running that were bred out west.

re: Finding Stallion Prospects: It's Not Always About Money

Pedigree Ann — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:49:12 GMT

Karen, I couldn't agree more. Neither horse has a fashionable pedigree, but both have proved they are genuine racehorses. In the 'glory days' of the sport, horses who won one or two big races but couldn't stay sound weren't as esteemed as those who raced a lot, won some and lost some, but kept their form over full campaigns.

Bold Chieftain is inbred to My Charmer (dam of Seattle Slew) 3x3 and Nearctic 4x4, while his dam has Nearctic's son Northern Dancer 3x4. No Raise a Native in the pedigree; good for outcrossing with Mr. P-inbred mares.

Acclamation has outcross written all over him, yet the outcross elements are all from first class animals. Unusual Heat's dam, Scandinavian champion and US G1 winner Rossard has Euro bloodlines that aren't common in the US. And Acclamation's damsire Silveyville was a G1 winner who raced for 8 seasons, standing at stud as well for the last 3. He has old-style French and German classic elements in the pedigree. Total outcross for Seattle Slew and Mr. P horses, only one cross of No. Dancer.

If only the commercial Kentucky breeders would take their blinders off and see that one can't keep breeding back to Storm Cat, Unbridled, and that lot forever. One would think that the success of Tiznow would wake them up, but no, they run back to the same old heavily advertized bloodlines whenever possible. Sad for the breed, sad for the sport.

re: Finding Stallion Prospects: It's Not Always About Money

Karen in Indiana — Tue, 20 Dec 2011 20:46:03 GMT

I can think of 2 very nice California horses have positive traits and deserve a chance at stud: Acclamation & Bold Chieftain. Both have been very dependable and have done well in good company. Bold Chieftain has been the very definition of sturdy at a high level. With Seattle Slew & Icecapade, he should mix with with a wide range (would like to see him tried with Wild Agains). Acclamation has performed very well this year on turf and synthetic and beat Twirling Candy & Game On Dude convincingly in the Pacific Classic. He's one of the few entire horses from Unusual Heat, who has proven himself as a consistent sire of very good horses.