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re: Rachel vs. Zenyatta - How to Make it Happen

Greg J. — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 23:06:56 GMT

LDP & RRXR,

Dray had asked when was the last time a filly beat a Kentucky Derby Winner, I answered tongue in cheek(Notice the "lol"), I was joking that I had to go back 104 years to find the last one, lol, But it has happened, that, I guess, was my point...

I just want to say, Zenyatta and Rachel are "Both" Incredible, No matter what anyone says, But in the History books, Going Undefeated IS the Ultimate Record, There is NO beating that record, Rachel has lost, There is no denying that, Regardless of what happens in Rachel's Career, She will never be Undefeated(She has had 7 horses finish ahead of her, Zenyatta has has "0" finish ahead of her!). Don't get me wrong, Rachel's wins in the Oaks,Preakness

and The Mother Goose were very impressive!, But, It is still not the same as being Undefeated...

Zenyatta, If she wins her remaining starts, Will be Undefeated, Remember people, "Undefeated" is the Ultimate Goal and Highest Achievement...

re: Rachel vs. Zenyatta - How to Make it Happen

LDP — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:32:37 GMT

Never in my life did i believe a horse could open a 20 length lead run the first quarter of a 1 3/8 race in 19.4 and still win. That is what Precious Passion just did in the United Nations and now i will need surgury to wind my jaw back up off the floore! He set a new course record aswell. Does anyone know of any other horses that run that fast that early other than secratariat and still win. That has got to be the race of the year.

re: Rachel vs. Zenyatta - How to Make it Happen

LDP — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:14:04 GMT

Laz,

Thank you for the info. Glad we cleared up the whole track wet dry fast thing, being that you were the correct one. Dont you hate the weather someimes? Sun, Rain, Sun, the rain again.

re: Rachel vs. Zenyatta - How to Make it Happen

LAZMANNICK — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 21:10:53 GMT

LDP

Apparently One Caroline worked on 5-29; 5-Furl 1:01 at Keenland and suffered a minor injury (on the shelf for at least 60 days).

You're right about Zen. She was scratched from the Friday card. If I recall it was muddy in the morning when they made the decision and then dried out for a good portion of the afternoon card. It really started to rain again that evening.

re: Rachel vs. Zenyatta - How to Make it Happen

LDP — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:47:14 GMT

Oh just saying, and this is not a slight to Zen, but if i were her connections if Sea the Stars shows up for the Classic i'd go to the Distaff. The colt beat Conduit today, and overall is kicking butt in Europe. He also seems to be looking at becoming the 16th English TC winner ever. That is one colt i would not want to face if i would not be wanting to welcome. This is of couse if Zenyatta wants to presserve her record. If she wants to prove greatness she without a doubt would do it by beating a Classic field with him in it.

re: Rachel vs. Zenyatta - How to Make it Happen

LDP — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:43:06 GMT

Laz,

I thought the scratched the morning of the race. I did go back and look, and found your correct. By the way what's going on with One Caroline. She hasn't raced since that day.

re: Rachel vs. Zenyatta - How to Make it Happen

LDP — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:41:27 GMT

Tiznowbaby,

No, i got it, lol. I just like finding answers. Especially now. I got injured at work and have nothing to do, so i research and blog. I also get on my horse for a ride. He doesn't pull bad so he doesn't hurt my shoulder bad. My sis asked me to ride her horse, who hates me and will repeatedly yank me. You can imagine my answer to her, lol. So when i'm not riding i go blog and do trivia searches. Wow, i have no life, lol.

re: Rachel vs. Zenyatta - How to Make it Happen

TXLonghorn — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:04:38 GMT

Adding a Friday card to the Breeders Cup was a huge blunder, exceeded only by carding only filly races on Friday, switching coverage to ESPN, changing the name of an established race like the Distaff to "Ladies Classic" and staging the Cup consecutive years on a new, untried, controversial synthetic track.

No doubt the powers that be at BC Ltd will continue to say all the critics are stuck in the past and not progressive...but isn't it possible that they just came up with five really bad ideas that have marginalized and devalued their Championship Day? Real leadership would be admitting major mistakes were made then correcting them...not lowering ticket prices and blaming the recession.

Oh....to those who mentioned the idea...a Sunday card would go head-to-head with the NFL...historically, not a good idea.

re: Rachel vs. Zenyatta - How to Make it Happen

LAZMANNICK — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:58:30 GMT

LDP:

Zen wasn't supposed to run until the next day. That is why they scratched. Look at the Oaks results in the daily racing form.....fast track. Look at a picture of Rachel winning the Oaks.....fast track. It might seem a little misleading because CD had rain earlier in the week and it starting again on Friday night.

re: Rachel vs. Zenyatta - How to Make it Happen

Tiznowbaby — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:46:30 GMT

LDP,

I think you may have missed the sarcasm ;)

re: Rachel vs. Zenyatta - How to Make it Happen

Matthew W — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:01:53 GMT

also love Convocation in the Dwyer, don;t thing I'll get that 5-1 but I'm gonna try to take them down at Belmont today--good card at Belmont today , good card at Holly tom.....

re: Rachel vs. Zenyatta - How to Make it Happen

LAZMANNICK — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:59:55 GMT

Gun Bow:

As much as I don't like to question your knowledge of horse racing, which as far as I am concerned is the greatest, even better than DRAYNAY'S, in fact definitely much better than DRAYNAY'S, I believe Go For Wands' win in the 1990 Beldame was at 1-1/16m, not at 1-1/8M....one of only two years it was ever run at the shorter distance (1939 & 1990) From 1940 to 1976 and from 1991 to the present it has been at 1-1/8M.

re: Rachel vs. Zenyatta - How to Make it Happen

Matthew W — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:48:57 GMT

Enough! I've had it up to here with this endless banter!----So I'll take this "time out" to say I'm hoping to perform a huge cashecktomy in the Suburban with my Asiactic Boy/Samhoon exacta box! Think the 20-1 on Samhoon is way too much of a good thing and I'm gonna get some early fireworks!

re: Rachel vs. Zenyatta - How to Make it Happen

LDP — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:23:36 GMT

Racingfan,

I got my facts a bit mixed up RA does have two stakes records, her first came in the Golden rod when she ran 1 1/16 in 1.43 flat, or 1.43.08. This race was her last race of last season. We all know that this year RA's record came in the Mother Goose.

re: Rachel vs. Zenyatta - How to Make it Happen

Citation — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:17:10 GMT

Alfred Vanderbilt's Discovery won 10 times carrying 130 pounds or more, Roseben once gave away 60 pounds and still won, and Ta Wee beats males carrying 140 pounds, and Zenyatta winning with 129 pounds is considered great? This seems rather ludicrous.