Haskin's Derby Trail: Big Two Locked and Loaded

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Lise from Maine — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 19:05:20 GMT

Hi!

Which horse(s) should I bet on for the Kentucky Derby? I am still watching and will wait and see.

I rarely bet on a Pletcher horse because he has a history of medicating his horses.

I have no idea if Baffert does but I keep watching to see who does and who does not.

Each horse should race on his merit not on drug enhancement performance.

Still waiting to make my decision on which horse(s) I will bet on regarding the Kentucky Derby.

I pay strict attention to what you write about the horses for the Derby and look forward to reading your articles.

Thank you!

Lise from Maine

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Point Given — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:15:07 GMT

Bob's Code West VS Todd's Palace Malice (Risen Star) "Down goes Todd"

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OsoDelDesierto — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 04:04:49 GMT

Pedigree Ann, I'm so sorry for the loss of your beloved Emma and her unborn foal - what a terrible blow this must be, both personally and as a breeder. I don't often post here, but am an avid reader of Steve's (and most of the other BH) blogs, and I always find your posts especially informative, thoughtful, and helpful, so I wanted to extend my sympathies and prayers for comfort and strength to you and your family. Many blessings upon the beautiful spirits of Emma and her foal, and to you as you grieve them.

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Alex'sBigFan — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 22:52:54 GMT

Pedigree Ann,

I am so sorry for the loss of your precious Emma and the foal she carried. Oh gosh, there are no adequate words to express how sad I feel about it. They are family members too and to me losing a dear animal is as traumatic as losing a family member. There is nothing that can be of comfort I know, but maybe my sister Jennifer, Linda's son Edward, along with Barbaro, Big Red, etc. have now greeted Emma and her unborn with open arms and she is in a better place surrounded with great animals and people who love animals. Hang in there and Godspeed your healing from this.

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CHIEF PICAWINNA — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:57:01 GMT

Coldfacts I still think February,March, and April are the most represented foaling months for Derby in the money finishers.Stick to the Derby in the last decade, and lets see if you can state the coldfacts that May is just as good as February,March and April as the most prevalent months in Derby top three finishers for the last decade.I think January,May and all other months are underrepresented,and I also think 2009 was an anomaly where ALL THREE top finishers were foaled in the same month.

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Age of Reason — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:19:56 GMT

Pedigree Ann,

My sincerest condolences on the loss of your dear mare.

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CHIEF PICAWINNA — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:40:11 GMT

Coldfacts going back to the foaling month for in the money finishers of the Kentucky Derby.I think maybe January might be a better foaling month than May for a prospective runner in the Derby.A warm fact for you, the most recent monster that was a January foal that won the Derby was Big Brown the 2008 winner of the first two legs of the triple crown.I think that trumps your inclusion of Derby year 2009 where the top three finishers were foaled in May.I think that was an anomaly.See if you can find more Coldfacts to support your theory that May is a more normal foaling month for thoroughbreds, and as such prospective Derby entrants.

As you probably know Verrazano was foaled in January and if he wins his debut prep race in a few weeks I think we can at least call him a baby monster after that prospective vistory.

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Coldfacts — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 11:21:45 GMT

CHIEF PICAWINNA,

“Coldfacts I’m not sold on May foals that win the Kentucky Derby”

Are you implying that horses with May foaling dates are at a disadvantage in the Derby? They are not!

One of the most spectacular Derby performance in the last 40 years was delivered by the May foal Mine That Bird.

Are you aware that the over hyped Dunkirk that finished 11th in said Derby was 3 months older than MIB and he could not even start in the Preakness?

Champion 2YO Lookin At Lucky is also a May foal. He had a brutal trip in the Derby and two weeks later he won the Preakness. He finished 4th in the Breeder Cup Classic as a 3YO.

May foals Thunder Gulch and Victory Gallop won the grueling 12F Belmont.

Why remain unsold when cold facts to the contrary are so overwhelming?

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Dr Drunkinbum — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 03:25:13 GMT

Pedigree Ann

I am very sorry for your loss.

Jon R.

I agree 100%.

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KY VET — Mon, 18 Feb 2013 00:00:29 GMT

Please dont ask COLDCUTS about COLOR now........

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Mike Relva — Sun, 17 Feb 2013 22:21:46 GMT

Jon R

Couldn't said it any beter. But they won't leave her along,just like how they pushed her so hard when she raced. Be nice if they could put her first and put aside their greed for once.

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Forbidden Apple — Sun, 17 Feb 2013 21:20:55 GMT

I prefer Plesa's on horse army, Itsmyluckyday. He is razor sharp and was pulling away from the eclipse champion with ease. I'm not buying the trash that some are throwing at this horse. Two solid efforts are not going to knockout this tough and talented animal. The horse I fear most is Flashback with his robust frame and ballerina like movement.

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Matthew W — Sun, 17 Feb 2013 20:33:42 GMT

All of those Cal breds in the 70's and 80's who proved distance-challenged---along came Tiznow, the specimen, and It would seem likely he'd catch a Derby winner or three...I love Fury Kapcori! And Hollendorfer! Tiznow had that natural cruising speed, and that grinding stamina--and his good progeny share his style! Fury Kapcori runs just like Papa Tiz, I know it's early, but I have been on 'Fury since November, I think he's the real deal, his Cash Call was solid, and that has been a key 2yo race over the years--I like a horse who wins or places in graded races as a 2yo. I like foundation, and I love two-turn foundation!

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El Kabong — Sun, 17 Feb 2013 20:31:10 GMT

Pedigree Ann,

I hope Rachel pulls through this for you and Emma. Take care.

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CHIEF PICAWINNA — Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:42:12 GMT

Coldfacts Im not sold on May foals that win the Kentucky Derby.The facts that I will choose to support my position the last three Derbies win,place and show horses just posting foaling month.2012 April,April,February 2011 March,February,June 2010 March,March,February.

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CHIEF PICAWINNA — Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:28:31 GMT

Clever changing of words in my posts Coldfacts what I typed was that you can definitely make a case and support it with the facts that you find that support YOUR position.Afterall thats why you chose to be COLDFACTS.

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JON R — Sun, 17 Feb 2013 15:14:21 GMT

My thoughts are with Rachel Alexandra at the moment. She has had two difficult pregnancies...or injuries in or during foaling. That should be enough. Perhaps the seemingly large size of the Bernardini filly is partially to blame for the difficulty RA is now having, but she had medical issues after her Curlin colt was foaled too. Let her get well, nurse her little daughter and then leave her alone!!! Her life is more important than the $$ value of any additional foals she may have.

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Mike Relva — Sun, 17 Feb 2013 05:47:47 GMT

Pedigree Ann

I'm very sorry to hear of your loss. Know that doesn't make it any easier.

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JayJay — Sun, 17 Feb 2013 05:18:19 GMT

Coldfacts : How come you haven't mentioned Belvin in any of your posts ? Belvin beat Footbridge by over 5 lengths and he's a May foal. He is debuting tomorrow in the San Vicente.

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Ranagulzion — Sun, 17 Feb 2013 03:26:31 GMT

Pedigree Ann,

I share your grief over Emma. Time will heal you. Peace.

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Paula Higgins — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 19:02:21 GMT

Pedigree Ann, I am so sorry about the loss of Emma and her foal. I know you are absolutely heartbroken. I cannot even imagine what you are going through. Please accept my sincere sympathy. I know you did everything you could for her. If there is anyone on this board who knows horses and how to provide the very best care of their horses, it is you.

Yes, Black Caviar/Nellie was awesome. I wish we could see her here. I am sure she would set records in the U.S. too. One for the ages.

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CHIEF PICAWINNA — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 18:53:14 GMT

Colfacts just looked at the last three WINNERS throw in March,I like April because some colts that I liked were foaled in that month near my own birth date namely Barbaro and Bodemeister.

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CHIEF PICAWINNA — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 18:45:57 GMT

Coldfacts good arguement going by recent winners I like February and April,but I will refrain from a complete rebuttal You as well as anyone on this board should know that I can DEFINATELY make a case, and back it up with the facts that support my position.

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JayJay — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 18:16:12 GMT

Pedigree Ann : I'm so sorry to hear about Emma, I don't have the words, I can't even imagine how that would feel. Stay strong...

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Linda in Texas — Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:40:07 GMT

Pedigree Ann. Deep and heartfelt condolences are sent your way from Texas on the loss of your Emma and her Include foal. Shatttered dreams are hard to prepare for and when it involves a living 'thing' be it animal or human, it is just something to deal with that seems to come from another planet as we float around trying to grab onto reality. So sorry for Emmma, her 'to be foal' and you, Pedigree Ann.

Linda