Haskin's Classic Report: And They're Off

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lunar spook — Mon, 04 Nov 2013 22:21:53 GMT

RANAGULZION- I was so close on so many races this year , the only race I hit big on was magician in the turf , NEVER bet against aiden Obrien in a turf race he does well in that race every year , odds were about 11-1 so im happy !!

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lunar spook — Mon, 04 Nov 2013 22:21:51 GMT

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Ranagulzion — Sun, 03 Nov 2013 02:37:07 GMT

Coldfacts 30 Oct 2013 10:06 AM

When you're finished eating your plates full of crow you may return to the blog ...I guess that we wont see you again until Triple Crown trail in March ...you've got an awful lot of crow to digest between now and then pal (LOL). Mucho Macho Man ...always remember him ...his victory was scincillating, in a fast time against a terrific field of horses. This should go down as one of the most thrilling Breeder's Cup Classic in its 30 years history ...certainly makes me forget bout Alysheba, how about you :-)

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Ranagulzion — Sun, 03 Nov 2013 02:23:03 GMT

lunar spook 01 Nov 2013 7:56 AM

Good call in the BC Classic regarding the performances of Will Take Charge and Declaration of War ...they came awfully close to the "Macho Man" ...and how about a gutsy performance from Fort Larned, forcing the "Dude" to lose his game and chuck the gallop s i forcasted.

This year's renewal was one of the best ever ...a truly run race fom start to finish.

I guess Wise Dan has silenced his detractors and put all HOTY pretenders to rest with his commanding performance in the BC Mile. Truly a champion.

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lunar spook — Fri, 01 Nov 2013 12:04:06 GMT

RANAGULZION-FILLIES & MARE = DANCE TO BRISTOL , SPRINT = SECRET CIRCLE

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lunar spook — Fri, 01 Nov 2013 11:56:37 GMT

RANAGULZION- YOUR ON THIS SITE A LOT SO I WANT SOME EXPERT ADVICE , IF THIER IS A PACE MELTDOWN UP FRONT I REALLY LIKE WILL TAKE CHARGE FOR THE WIN , ALSO IF HE TAKES TO THE DIRT I LIKE THE STEADY GRINDING STAMINA OF DECLARATION OF WAR ! WHAT YA THINK ?

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Ranagulzion — Thu, 31 Oct 2013 18:49:56 GMT

lunar spook 31 Oct 2013 8:23 AM

I like you ...you're a good sport.

Here are my picks corresponding to yours:

BCJ Turf -Bobby's Kitten

BCJFillies Turf -Readt To Act

BCDirt Mile -Verrazano

BCDistaff -Princess of Sylmar

BCMile -Wise Dan

BCTurf -The Fugue (dangers are Little Mike, Indy Point and Real Solution)

BCClassic -Mucho Macho Man

You didn't call either of the BC Sprints. It will be Groupie Doll in the Fillies & Mare race and Triniberg in the Colts & Geldings race. Good Luck.

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lunar spook — Thu, 31 Oct 2013 12:23:53 GMT

RANAGULZION- this is just for u !my picks are as follows: juvenile turf- Giovanni boldini , juvenile fillies turf-chriselliam , mile-central intelligence, distaff- close hatches , turf mile-no jet lag, turf- magician & vagabond shoes, im split here will bet both , classic- split between declaration of war & will take charge depending on the pace BUT ONE OF THOSE TWO WILL WIN IT BANK ON IT ! ok ive laid it all out , time for u to man up now ! good luck sat !!!

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lunar spook — Thu, 31 Oct 2013 12:23:27 GMT

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predict — Thu, 31 Oct 2013 03:01:32 GMT

Wow! This years Classic is harder to figure out than where the processed chicken we'll be eating, comes from. In other words good luck with that race. I'll take

Game on Dude, even if he offers little gain, he just looks the most likely to win, hard to pick against with any confidence. I see Ron the Greek and Mucho Macho Man, second and third, in some order. Highly doubt a 3 year old will hit the board this year.

In the turf mile, watch as Olympic Glory gets the best of Wise Dan. His Dam sire,Alzao, makes this guy a standout to watch out for at the finish.

In the Sprint I'll go with a long shot, Majestic Stride, might be this good, and I loved his sire.

I like Indy Points with Stevens riding in the Turf.

Time to celebrate New Year's Day in the Juvenile, too early? Maybe, but I don't think so. Dance With Fate with this one.

Turf Sprint is tough, will go with Capo Bastone, hoping he might even be better on turf.

Judy the Beauty in the Filly and Mare Sprint. Johnny V. is th difference here.

Laughing gets my pick in the Filly and Mare Turf, she can be very hard to pass; love her determination.

Will try Scandalous Act in the Juvenile Fillies, like her sire Act of Duty; expecting her to be something special.

...............................

Friday's bets?

Marathon- Ever Rider

Juvenile Turf-Shamshon

Dirt Mile- Broadway Empire!!!!!

Juvenile Fillies Turf-Chriselliam

Good Luck everyone!, it doesn't get much better than this...

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papillon — Thu, 31 Oct 2013 02:29:52 GMT

genie--summer bird finished 4th in the classic...

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Coldfacts — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 23:48:01 GMT

In 2012 GOD contested six races before his BCC effort: He won four and the following horses finished second to him:

Uh OH Bango

Kettle Corn

Richards Kid

Nonios

Both Richards Kid and Nonios finished ahead of him in the BCC. None of the horses that finished second to GOD in 2012 were serious BCC contenders. In spite of this, two finished ahead of him. Even with his bad break he should have finished ahead of the two aforementioned horses.

In 2013 GOD contested 5 races winning all. The following horses finished second to him were:

Clubhouse Ride (3 times)

Kettle Corn (2 times)

It is likely that the above G2 horses would be chasing the ambulance in the BCC. Consequently, they would not have been considered for the race even if both were sound and still in training.

The field that will be assembled against GOD is significantly stronger than any he has faced in 2013. His opponents will not be old partially sound G2 horses.

I firmly believe he has no chance of winning.

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Bigtex — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 23:44:45 GMT

Painter is poised to pop a big one!

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Coldfacts — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 23:42:29 GMT

I am focusing on Alpha for the Breeder Cup Dirt Mile.

Obviously I will be deemed to be crazy but its only crazy people that wager on 1000lbs animals ridden by tiny humans armed with whips.

Alpha résumé reflects he has kept better company than most in the field.

The dirt mile will be his 3rd attempt the distance but this should not be seen a negative.

His 1st attempt was as a 2YO in the G1 Champagne where he finished 2nd to Union Rags.

His 2nd attempt at the distance was as a 4YO in the G2 Godolphin Mile where he finished 5th to Soft Falling Rain.

Interestingly, the blinkers were affixed for the 1st time in that effort and he led at a fast clip for 7F.

Since his return from Dubai the blinkers have been used twice. He won the G1 Woodward from gate to wire. He tried a similar strategy in the JCGC but could not sustain the fast pace he set in the 1st 8F (1:35.08).

He cuts back to 8F for his 3rd attempt at 8F. He is drawn at post #7 and with the speed he has been showing he should win the run to the 1st turn as the real speed in the race is drawn on the far outside.

The 2012 Dirt Mile was won in a time of 1:35.34 by Tapizar who tracked the leader. Alpha recorded an 8F split in the JCGC of 1:35.08. He is therefore capable of going below 1:35 on the SA Park Speedway.

He has 9F stamina at least as he won the Jim Dandy and Woodward. If he wins the run to the 1st turn he will be tough to pass.

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Coldfacts — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 23:36:26 GMT

I love Untapable and she will be a part of my 5 horse exotic box wagers.

Secret Compass & Concave will also be in included.

The filly I am hoping will win is Rosalind. If she does it will make my day as I am going to key her on top in some of my wagers.

I concede she is not a very fast filly and will require a fast pace with a resulting melt down.

Her 3rd to Untapable in the Pocahontas was achieved with a sustained stretch run after she was left for dead when the leaders quickened approaching the top of the stretch.

In the gallop out she blew by Untapable in a jiffy.

Her 2nd to My Conquestadory in the Alcibiades was achieved lugging in but again she was resolute to the line without impacting the winner.

The dam line of Rosalind leans heavily towards turf. Her dam sire is the turf great Theatrical. She she won her debut on turf at Ellis Park. She quicken like a turf horse and the extension in her strides was impressive.

The big chestnut filly has contested races on dirt, turf and synthetic.

I am hoping for a strong pace and a possible pace melt down that will allow her long strides to catch them on the line at a good price.

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Ranagulzion — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 21:54:33 GMT

lunar spook 30 Oct 2013 10:10 AM

Let's see you post your picks for Friday's card and compare how we do against each other. Its easy to be critical when nobody knows your selections.

I'll post most of my Saturay picks later

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lunar spook — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:45:54 GMT

THE DEACON- I agree with you 100% on wise dan , his connections will not MAN UP and face any real competition !

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Jean in Chicago — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 20:26:38 GMT

Hi to mz and Ted from LA--Ted, I hope you kept your promise and smuggled treats to Dr. D--please tell him 'hi' from me.

Once again, I have no idea how things will actually play out, but as a fan of The Big Lebowski, I kinda have to cheer for The Dude. I will drink a white russian in his honor.

May they all come home safe and sound.

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The Deacon — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 18:48:20 GMT

Wise Dan does not deserve HOTY.......period

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genie918 — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 17:54:46 GMT

The BC Classic has a very deep field this year and there has already been a lot of opinions who will win, therefore, we may be in for a surprise this year. It is easy to see why Game on Dude was assigned as the morning line favorite. The horse has had a fantastic year, currently doing very well and is on his "home turf". I see him, however, as a one-dimensional horse and if he breaks poorly, gets bumped and/or shuffled back too far, then it is unlikely he will win. Fort Larned has had a very uneven year, so I am not as confident that he will repeat his BC Classic win. Ron the Greek has his moments of brilliance. I am not sure whether he will be able to put back-to-back wins. The JCGC may have been his Classic. Flat Out is a nice horse, but does his best running at Belmont. I believe that Will Take Charge has emerged as the top 3-year-old. When I look at him, I see Summer Bird. I think he has a good chance of "hitting the boards" like Summer Bird did. Declaration of War is intriguing and may very well be the surprise factor in this race, however, I am letting personal feelings dictate my decision in the end. I have followed Mucho Macho Man from almost the beginning of his career. I feel that he finally has come of age and with Gary Stevens aboard along with some racing luck, he will win. Regardless of the outcome, I wish for safe trips for all the horses and the jockeys in every BC race! Good luck and let the games begin!

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mz — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 17:27:14 GMT

Moreno over Mucho Macho Man and

Game on Dude. But I am afraid about Declaration of War.

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Old Timer — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 17:20:14 GMT

It will indeed be a good race and the mutuels will be super.

On one hand, GOD has not really beaten up on any champions this year, as you said, Steve. At the same time he is in great hands with Baffert and Mike Smith. Plus as Deacon noted above, he is in his own back yard.

Likewise MMM seems to love this track and has Gary Stevens and finished second last year.

Any of the three year olds would not be a huge surprise either.

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papillon — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 15:57:21 GMT

i agree with the comment about retirements announced before a horse's final race--it's not a vote of confidence from the connections and often the horse does not fire. and now that they's admitted he had a slight injury after the travers...they are setting up a ready made excuse for a poor finish.

in the classic, 2 of the 3 speed horses that will be tangling with game on dude on the front are 3 year olds who've never been looked in the eye by other speed.

game on dude is a street fighter--he'll either be outside pressuring the other speed all the way or he'll be ahead of them, unless a debacle like last year occurs.

he showed with uncle mo in 2011's classic that he'll grinds speed horses used to easy leads into the ground.

fort larned is like tapizar, he's dangerous alone on the lead but doesn't fight when pressured. if he doesn't get ahead of the other speed, i don't think he has chance.

if the dude gets beat, it will probably be by a closer like in 2011--it doesn't seem likely that he'll have a repeat of last year. he's never run that badly in his life.

and for me, horses like palace malice who are given high speed figures and excuses over and over, who have a knack for loosing (he's 2 for 9 this year and 3 for 11 lifetime) are fool's gold.

will take charge looks like the 3 year old with the best chance to finish in the money--but history says that it takes a special 3 year old to do that, and i don't think any of this year's crop measure up to curlin, sunday silence, point given etc...

may all the horses finish safe and sound.

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Dee — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 14:50:35 GMT

Steve, who physically is looking best for the classic? All of them seem to be, but any that really stand out or some that seem to lack some luster in their coats? I don't see the hype in Fort Lardened, and I am not so sure Game On Dude is going to want to throw in the towel this year so easily. I am also really liking Will Take Charge, and I think Flat Out might have a better trip/be better right now than Mucho Macho Man and Ron the Greek (Mott even admitted he doesn't run his best after throwing down a monster like his last race). Right now I'm going with Game On Dude, Will Take Charge, and Flat out box.

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Ranagulzion — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 14:19:54 GMT

In my last post I ommitted to mention the significant homefield advantage that the Santa Anita surface has provided for its local stars in past Breeder's Cup. This is probably the best thing that Game On Dude has going for him in this race since he's been ruling the roost all year. Homefield advantage works best when the competition hasn't adapted sufficiently to the track but we already know that Mucho macho Man, Fort Larned and Ron The Greek will relish that surface, therefore anyway you look at it Game On Dude faces the race of his life, and unfortunately the luck of the draw doesn't help with his running style.

Others in the Breeder's Cup races that might benefit significantly from homefield advantage are Beholder in the Distaff, Goldencents in the Dirt Mile, Tap It Rich in the Juvenile and Secret Circle in the Sprint. These are very formidable contenders in their respective races. Nevertheless my picks to win in the above races are:

Princess of Sylmar in the Distaff (Royal Delta will be tougher this time but beatable again);

Verrazano to cop the Dirt Mile with Pants On Fire as his chief threat;

We Miss Artie to outgame Strong Mandate, Cleburne, Bond Holder and Havana in the Juvenile (what a competitive field this is);

Triniberg to repeat in the Sprint at a nice price, once again over The Lumber Guy in a huge exactor ...no joke ...how's that for a bold selection :)

On the Friday Card:

In the Juvenile Filies Turf, its Ready To Act;

In the Marathon, its Blueskiesandrainbow to wire the field, holding off Pool Play;

In the BCJuvenile Turf, its Bobby's Kitten over the Euro invader, Outstrip.

Happy Hunting everybody.