The Journey of Medaglia d'Oro

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Fire Slam — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 11:55:24 GMT

Think god he was saved from the barn of Dave Vance!

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bay latte — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:37:19 GMT

Coldfacts Perhaps some of my comments were misleading I will not claim that Medaglia was

# 1 at the track he did however have great speed soundness and longivity and true class and was one of the three nominated for the eclipse award only to loose the political battle to an very good race horse that turned out to be a fairly common sire . My point about Candy Ride, Budda, Volponi ,and Sarava is that they obviously ran their career race in defeating Medaglia however while doing so Medaglia pushed them to the point of no return. His record at Saratoga I beleive is quite significant in as much as he is the omly one to accomplish that feat in one hundred and thirty some years of Saratoga racing and there were grade 1 horse in those three races

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Coldfacts — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:12:34 GMT

You are correct. Many thanks for the correction.

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Port Stanley — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:36:15 GMT

Just an FYI for Coldfacts. Rachel Alexandra is from Medaglia d'Oro's first crop.

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Coldfacts — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:41:49 GMT

MEDAGLIA won all three races for a unique record. However, I do not understand the point you’re trying to make. Bernardini won two of the three pulling a bus and did not start in Whitney. I can list a number of unique records established by several thoroughbreds. In spite of these records, some were not number one on the track. Although MEDAGLIA is the only horse to win all three races, it did not make him number one on the track.

MEDAGLIA was good on the track but not great. He has produced a great filly from his second crop and deserves all the credits cited in Steve’s article. I am in no way trying to discredit his achievements but I just think to classify him as number one on the track is a bit of a stretch.

“As I recall Candy Ride never ran again after he met Medaglia in the Pacific Classic nor did Budda after he met Medaglia in the Wood and I do not recall that Sarava or Volponi ever won again after they met Medaglia “

Should I assume you are implying that all four horses cited in your quote above suffered irreparable damage after defeating Medaglia? Buddha (Unbridleds Song) got injured the week of the derby. A similar fate suffered by A.P. Indy and recently I Want Revenge. Candy Ride had soundness issues long before he meet Medaglia. Modern day thoroughbreds are very fragile and any race could be the last one they win irrespective of the competition.

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bay latte — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:37:13 GMT

coldfacts you seem to really know your facts quite well so you must know how many of the all time great horses have ran and either won or lost at the graveyard of champions . of all those greats how many if any are there that have won the Jim Dandy the Travers and the Whitney and who are they?

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bay latte — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:31:48 GMT

Darla you are perseptive and could be correct

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DARLA — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:23:02 GMT

WELL BAY LATTE....I'M GUESSING THAT YOU ARE THE ORIGINAL OWNERS/BREEDERS OF MEDAGLIA....CONSIDERING HIS MOM'S NAME IS CAPPACHINO BAY!!!! WOW!!! I HOPE MY GUESS IS RIGHT!!

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bay latte — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:26:52 GMT

For Darla if you can get my email address from the bloodhorse I will send you some pictures of Medaglia. For MLS his potential was realized early as he is the first in 30 years of breeding that the breeders neve gilded .for coldfacts.As I recall Candy Ride never ran again after he met Medaglia in the Pacific Classic nor did Budda after he met Medaglia in the Wood and I do not recall that Sarava or Volponi ever won again after they met Medaglia however Medaglia kept on running and winning now that is just puzzling there is a riddle here for all. break the code in the display name and you will know the writer of this message Bay

Latte

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Bonnie Rowntree — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:25:24 GMT

Great article about a very beautiful and deserving stallion. I love the part about his humble beginnings. We have a small farm in the middle of nowhere, with a small track and a couple of very good riders. Not a fancy facility, but excellent horseman who make all the difference. It's nice to see that some people can look beyond the fancy for the function.

Bonnie

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mary — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:04:11 GMT

When a stallion is referred to as a filly sire does that mean sire of good race fillies or good broodmares? If it means both then Medaglia d'Oro's fillies should be in high demand at the sales and his unraced ones will be sought after as broodmares.

What other stallions would fall into this category? Secretariat, Sir Ivor...

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Soldier Course — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:56:21 GMT

Zookeeper:

It's impossible to describe the beauty of Lexington. For those of us who love Thoroughbreds, its restorative powers are a wonder. Everything leaves its mark - from the magnificence of Keeneland and the farms to the mundane joys of Ale-8-One, the local gingerale.

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Coldfacts — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:58:31 GMT

Steve you have my sincere apology. I was in no way implying that Medaglia D’oro is not a deserving candidate for your article because he does not compare with Birdstone. I clearly need to improve my writing skills. I was actually implying that what appears to be the emergence of a classic winning dynasty has gone unnoticed. Derby winner Unbridled, his son Grindstone, his grandson Birestone via Grindstone, his two great grandsons via Birdstone have won a leg of the TC. This is a history making occurrence. There is the possibility of that the sequence could be extended if Summer Bird makes it to the breeding shed. In my humble opinion this is the most significant occurrence over the TC series. There is no doubt that I am clearly ahead of myself to imply that you should favor one story over the other and for this you again have my sincere apology. NB: This is why I am flipping burgers.

Do you think Unbridled’s emerging classic winning dynasty & Birdstone achievement as a first crop sire merit one of your classic articles?

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Coldfacts — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:56:55 GMT

DARLA, IT APPEARS I HAVE OFFEDED YOU AND FOR THIS YOU HAVE MY SINCERE APOLOGY. YOU MUST REALIZE THAT YOUR ORIGINAL POST DID NOT SPECIFY THAT MEDAGLIA D’ORO WAS #1 IN YOUR BOOK. IF THAT WAS STATED IN YOUR POST, I WOULD HAVE RECOGNIZED THAT IT WAS MORE OF AN EMOTIONAL ASSESSMENT THAN A FACTUAL ONE. MY RESPONSE WOULD HAVE BEEN TOTALLY DIFFERENT AS I WOULD RESPECT YOUR RIGHT TO AN EMOTIONALLY DRIVEN ASSESSMENT OF THE ONE OF YOUR FAVORITE THOROUGHBREDS. I WAS OF THE OPINION THAT YOUR ASSESSMENT WAS BASED ON HIS RECORD. LET ME BE CLEAR, MEDAGLIA D’ORO WAS A TOP CLASS PERFORMER WHO WON HIS FAIR SHARE OF G1 RACES. HOWEVER, HIS RECORD REFLECTS THAT HE WAS BEATEN IN THE MAJORITY OF THE REALY BIG RACES. CONSEQUENTLY, I DO NOT CONCUR THAT HE WAS #1 ON THE TRACK. I BASED MY CONCLUSION NOT ON EMOTIONS BUT THE COLD FACTS CONTAINED IN HIS RECORD. I CAN IN NO WAY CHALLENGE HIS CLASSIFICATION IN YOUR BOOK.

ON THE SUBJECT OF LESSER HORSES, I PROBABLY SHOULD NOT HAVE USED THAT TERM AS LESSER FANCIED HORSES WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE APPROPRIATE. BUDDHA WAS VERY PROMISING BASED ON HIS ALLOWANCE WIN PRECEDING THE WOOD MEMORIAL. MEDAGLIA D’ORO WAS 2-1 IN THE BREEDERS CUP CLASSIC COMPARED TO THE LESSER FANCIED VALPONI WHO WAS 43-1. SARAVA, WAS 71-1 WHEN HE DEFEATED MEDAGLIA D’ORO IN THE BELMONT. THESE MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN LESSER HORSES BUT THEY WERE NOT AS ACCOMPLISHED AS MEDAGLIA D’ORO.

AS FOR YOUR NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOU ME, I TAKE NO OFFENSE AS I THINK WERE ALL REACT TO PERCEIVED OFFENCE DIFFERENTLY. MY INTENTION WAS NEVER TO OFFEND. ONE LOVE!

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Zookeeper — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 01:20:58 GMT

Soldier Course,

Thank you so much for clearing that up.

How lucky you are to visit Lexington every year. I was there in 2005 and filled my eyes with the beauty and "greeness" of it all. My hope is to go back soon. There is so much to see and enjoy. So many beautiful farms and horses, so much history, so little time...