April 12, 2010 - Presented by Darby Dan

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jrunner4 — Mon, 26 Apr 2010 20:01:58 GMT

I believe the Horse that will win the 2010 Derby is Awesome Act. Tri box Dublin, Interactif , Awesome Act & Noble Promise.. with confidence ..

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jackaruu59 — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:04:30 GMT

I'm Looking at Lucky,because that's what we have to be to win the DERBY!!! He wasn't lucky getting locked on the rail or he would be PERFECT--7-0. The name is the game.My other faves are Eskenderva,Endorsment,Sidney's Candy and of course Misson Impazible. I jackaruu59 do endorse this sweet lucky bet on an impossable win at this 2:00 flat race that will end everyone of my monetary mistakes. This is a nice five horse box? I need the MONEY,don't ask why and I'll never tell.

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Mary — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 16:24:17 GMT

Thanks Dr Drunkinbum - sounds like you're right about it being Lucky's first work so not to worry. Yesterday Stevens updated his opinion to say Baffert had wanted Lucky to go slow and easy.

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tcc — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:03:16 GMT

Bloodline Bob:

Here is another horse that has 1997 sire, he has enough earning's to run in the Derby, it still depend's if the connection's decide to run him. His name is Interactif!

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tcc — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:06:34 GMT

They definitely are NOT for your average,typical handicapper. My record since 1998 isn't to shabby: 1998=REAL QUIET,1999=CHARISMATIC,2001=MONARCHOS exacta with Invisible Ink,2003=FUNNY CIDE,2005=GIACOMO,2006=BARBARO,2009=MINE THAT BIRD exacta with Pioneer of the Nile. In the last 12 years I've had 7 winners + 2 exacta's AND I've been betting the Kentucky Derby every year since 1972(Riva Ridge).For the record I did NOT bet SECRETARIAT,SEATTLE SLEW or AFFIRMED.

Bloodline Bob 18 Apr 2010 3:03 PM

I started betting the Kentucky Derby in 2000.

My picks that worked out for me were.

2000 Fusaichi Pegasus

2001 Monarchos

2002 War Emblem

2003 Funny Cide

2004 Smarty Jones

2007 Steet Sense

2008 Big Brown

2009 Mine That Bird

This year I will wait until I see who will get in before choosing any. I did like Smarty Jones and Big Brown in January of their Dery year.

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Fran Loszynski — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 17:25:16 GMT

Did everyone see Dublin is sizzling! Yeeehawh !!!

Dublin do you like Roses?!

Here are my Derby Picks:

DUBLIN

ESKEY

ICE BOX Trifecta straight

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Ranagulzion — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 16:20:56 GMT

Zarvona,

I see you've made a compelling case for Sidney's Candy. Great stuff ...really like the contents of your posts ...even if we disagree on points. Give both Sidney's Candy and Esky clean trips going the Derby distance (remembering that its not a match race) and I tell you Esky leaves him for dead when they turn for home. Its going to be very interesting but the pace is going to burn Sidney's Candy because he knows no other way of running but on the front end. Also, considering how the speedy Pro-riders have been transitioning to dirt ...like a shot from a gun ...I can't see Sidney's Candy drafting in behind ...Line Of David, Conveyance, Rule etc. and being surrounded by other stalkers Endorsement, Super Saver, Mission Impazible and ...the "Big One" Eskendereya ...and then finding what it takes to draw off from this august bunch to win. That is just not his style, and running on a new surface for the first time in ...well ... you underlined it ...non other than the Kentucky Derby it will be foolhardy to "mess" with the horse's comfort zone. Sidney's Candy is a very good 3YO colt I agree, but I see him coming up short in this Kentucky Derby. As you put it in an earlier post "the Super bowl of racing" (Kentucky Derby) is not the place to tinker with what has been successful for a horse, thusly (as you would say) its damed if you do and damned if you don't for Sidney's Candy on whether to try a wire to wire act. He doesn't hit the board by my calculations ...good and fast as he is.

Now unto your question about Esky, "who has Eskendereya ever run against that was fit? Or, when has he ever seen front running speed that MAY NEVER QUIT!!! He has never chased a “Conveyance”; or a “Paddy O’Prado” or a “Sidney’s Candy”, not once!!" I like your poetic line (rhyming fit with never quit) but seriously, come on now Zarvona, we both know that Esky scares away competition and that some tried to avoid him only to find him showing up in the Wood Memorial, while others as reputable as your beloved Looking at Lucky became uninterested in the Wood the moment that Zayat and Pletcher indicated that Esky was heading in that direction. A great horse has to be measured by more than the competition that shows up against him/her. In the case of Eskendereya he totally squandered the opposition, while on a common canter, giving Johhny V an armchair ride all the way up the lane. Many who saw his awe-inspiring FOY break-out performance wanted to see it again to be convinced that this "2nd coming of Big Red" racing machine wasn't a flash-in-the-pan, and he delivered big time, with consumate ease, "pulling a train" as the sages would say. In the opinion of both Trainer and jockey this colt continues to improve and the farther they go the stronger he gets. Go back and look at his Pilgrim Stakes 2YO performance and see if you think that Derby traffic is gonna phase this guy. His appearance on the pro-ride in the BC Juvenile is a complete toss ...like all the other Dirt Stars on Breeders cup day he never took to the surface ...besides he was a developing 2YO. I know that you are looking for betting value but sometimes its not goin to be there ...and this is one of those times when trying to beat the favourite is like hitting your head against a wall ...you'll get a head ache and a hole-in-the pocket ...why not just relax and enjoy racings finest. Outside of the Todd Squad it may also be difficult to find exotics because Mission Impazible and Super Saver are very very strong contenders. Of the non-Pletcher runners Endorsement and Ice Box look good but the former is short on seasoning, which doesn't spell Derby success inspite of the obvious talent (most recent reference Curlin). Awesome Act can make the frame and Looking At Lucky too, because of his gameness, but these will have to show stamina (a bit suspect from both performance and pedigree standpoints). Indeed, the races are contested because anything can happen before or during a race to upset the calculations of the most astute student/ connoisseur of the game so its good luck to you.

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You Got to Have It — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:33:39 GMT

It will be awesome if the 1 2 3 came like this.

1- Lookin At Lucky / Bob Baffert

2- Dublin / D'Lukas

3- Ice Box/ N.Zito

It will be a Derby to Remember........

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Fran Loszynski — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:24:19 GMT

Zookeeper and Dr. D.

Great names for B.Brown and S. Bound- I'm sure they are going to have alot of foals!

Thank you- I get a kick out of picking names for foals. The owner of Afleet Alex graced me with the thrill of liking the name and naming "Afleet of Angels". I thought of the kids with cancer and to continue Afleet Alex's legacy helping kids. The owners are something special!

I feel bad for Tiz Chrome and She Be Wild may be out of the Oaks. One week till Derby Day and boy changes are starting already.

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Bloodline Bob — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 04:09:30 GMT

I'm going to confirm my 1st 2010 Ky.Derby bet: $1 trifecta box=ESKENDEREYA,AMERICAN LION,ENDORSEMENT,DEAN'S KITTEN,STATELY VICTOR. $60. STILL $940 to bet.

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zarvona — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:52:30 GMT

Once upon a time in this blog, I wrote that after seeing “Eskendereya” after his first Fla. run,--clobbering the field in some 8 length win,--that I stated then that I was wrong in my earliest assessment of him and that … “he might give “Storm Cat” his best chance yet to get off the Derby “Shynder” (sc) of never having bred an offspring that won the Kentucky Derby”. Then along came “Ice Box” another promising maturing “Storm Cat” bred, and lately even “Line of David”, adding to “Storm Cat” ’s chances.

However, I am reminded of a horse name of “Candy Ride” from Argentina, who did little more that run around some track over a 1 ¼ in staggering 1:59.11, a track record!!! Eventually, at stud and bred to “Fair Exchange” for even greater speed???, a foal eventually named “Sidney’s Candy” was brought onto this planet. Of note, “Fair Exchange” is another daughter of “Storm Cat”. With a non-updated distant rating,--which let me assure you all will be higher than the 320 average!!,--with a record of 4--1--0 in a mere 6 starts,--having been lightly raced by some standards,--who posted the following wins: 5 ½ fur. 1:02.71; --which is basically flying low and receiving only a 99 Beyer???; the mere major let down destroying a perfect record in his next effort, losing by a head in a normally great speed time at 5 ½ fur. of 1:04.24;--where anything under 1:04.50 in my book qualifies as a future contender to deal with,---having knocked off some Gr. II 7 fur. next race in 1:20.91, with only a 95 Beyer speed rating figure??;--where yesterday at Charles Town they were touting the two efforts of 1:23. + being just under ½ seconds off the track record, although on that short track it’s 7 fur. runs are around two turns,--where it is also my opinion that that track should be lengthened and elongated before the real estate in that area makes it impossible to do so, or OH boy …where SHOULD THEY COME DOWN TO COLONIAL DOWNS, if they are looking to break some records,--then in a natural distance progression posting his first and only Gr. II 1 1/16 run, running a respectable 1:42.30; again only a 95 Beyer, over 1 1/16;--and again where I consider anything under 1:42.50 as worthy of a consideration as a contender always …AND NOTING WHERE ANDREW BEYER UNDER VALUES his synthetic ratings in OUR estimations by some minimum of 5 to 9 SPEED RATED POINTS!!!;--and then topping that all off with his first ever and only “wire to wire” 1 1/8 run in a 1:48.00; only a 100 Beyer??? in his next outing all in winning the prized Gr. I Santa Anita Derby with all of his efforts made against the respectable competition of the month in each effort!! …--where again any running under 1:49.50 gets a notation in my charts, and--all where, again in review, only losing in a 5 ½ fur event as a virtual youngster, where he personally bested a 1:04.50 !!! Not too shabby, aye? and a mind boggling natural progression of a youngster whose father ran a 1:59.11 in the very distance that come May the 1st that he shall next contest!!! Thusly, the collection of the times for this horse’s runs were not the “wow he ran that, he’s probably gonna be a contender”, they all, every run!!!, showed that kind of contender speed!!!!!, where a horse runs that fast once he is considered worth paying attention too and this horse does this every time out!!

And, what or who is to say that this horse doesn’t improve over dirt??, where many and most horses do and have!!! and where as I have said for years now, “A GOOD HORSE, a CHAMPION TYPE OF HORSE, will run well over any given surface!” Thusly, who is to again say that ‘this horse can’t get the distance?’ or that he ‘can’t run over dirt?’, all because he hasn’t yet done so!! I was told that they run juveniles over synthetics, where possible, all in order to protect these youngsters from potential injury during their development, as these are but maturing teenagers in reality!! And, what wise investor doesn’t do all that he can to protect his investments??? And what trainer then would in this day an age go out of his way to deviate from such a percentage wise proven pattern of escaping injury with any limited Derby hopeful? ‘Lightly raced’, another supposed draw back, some claim, but that has been the trend in the most recent past, hasn’t it??? And, who is to say that this horse doesn’t strengthen and grow even strong after his handy little Santa Anita Gr. I work out???

Thusly, this Kentucky bred, John Sadler trained little colt, sired by … “Candy Ride” (Arg.)-((s.s.s.s. “Cryptoclearance”-“Fappiano”-“Mr. Prospector”)) –((s.d.s.s. “Blushing Groom” (Fr.))) /by… dam…

“Fair Exchange”-“Storm Cat”-(“Storm Bird”)-(“Northern Dancer”)-((d.s.d.s. “Secretariat”-“Bold Ruler”))-((d.d.s.s. “Neartic” (Can.) ))-((d.d.d.s.s. “Bold Ruler”))… --thusly double bred to “Bold Ruler” and given an A ++ rated pedigree grading under some new standard,--does in my opinion thusly give “Storm Cat” an even greater chance to yet get into the breeding Derby column finally and with a chance to do so in a near wire to wire effort. He does have that kind of speed, the kind of speed that I can’t find in any horse so bred for the classic distance yet to date!!

If you are still a doubter my friend, become a believer!!

This is all not to say, that I don’t still hold in high regard, “Ice Box” who has grown before our eyes and has had plenty of time since Florida to get even more mature, stronger, and better; “Endorsement”, who came from out of that thin air and found his own 1:48 + 1 1/8 run, forgetting his light racing experience,--where we went over that theory of ‘the Rolls Royce in the garage’ bit already last year in “Dunkirk”;-- “Lookin at Lucky”, who reminds me more and more of “Curlin”; “Eskendereya”, who reminds one of “Researcher”; or “Paddy O’Prado”, that lil gray, who they just might not hold back on to see if he can rate off the pace come Derby day and just let him go, who has also shown greater speed than any other entry on the track thus far at any age in 1 1/8 this year!!!--Guess your figuring how I rate my top 10 with 2 weeks to go, aye??? Or, who my 4-6 horses that I am gonna go to window with regarding are???--

Then again, there still remains the gamely “Dean’s Kitten”; the late blooming “Stately Character”, who recently shocked us all with his late maturing come from behind run; “Super Saver”, who we have hoped for development from all year, now wondering if he might finally mature on Derby Day??;--(and a horse that I admit I made a silly future bet on at like 25-1, where now I will likely get better odds than that on Derby Day at the track!!, although I did get “Sidney’s Candy” at 33-1 and I won’t see those odds come Derby Day, maybe 6-1 to 10-1 at the time of the …“and they are off!!”… announcement,--“Awesome Act”, who I can’t quite get a bead on, “Mission Impazible” a beautiful gray; and then the many who aren’t bred for the distance, but who have shown some speed or stamina whom could somehow come through, in “Dublin”; “Conveyance”; “Discreetly Mine”; “Rule”, and etc. , the late comer “Line of David”; the earlier on hopefuls, “American Lion”, “Interactif”, and “Noble’s Promise”; and etc. And, the current system makes us now again reconsider the likes of a “Jackson’s Bend” ; a “Balktalk”; an “Aikenite”; a “Make Music For Me”; an “Exhi”; a “Setsuko”; and an “A Little Warm”,--the latter another once upon a time Virginia hopeful,--and etc.--Gee, I am gonna miss that Va. bred gray “Outlaw Man”!!, too. And, they make is consider the secretive trained “Homeboykris”, who is on the un-classic training route!!!

But, which one is close in comparison to “Sidney’s Candy”??? I don’t think there is one. Give him a clean trip and watch out folks. He is for real.

And, I do know that 6-7 our of every 10 of everyone I have polled feel “Eskendereya” is an unbeatable lock in your estimations, that being every time I ask when looking out there for some “Sidney Candy” supporters or even the ever dwindling and dying “Lookin at Lucky” supporters. Then again, who has “Eskendereya” ever run against that was fit? Or, when has he ever seen front running speed that MAY NEVER QUIT!!! He has never chased a “Conveyance”; or a “Paddy O’Prado” or a “Sidney’s Candy”, not once!!

Unfortunately, as I think back and remember last year, where I watched my hopeful “Dunkirk” crawl on his knees in the mud for near 10 yards once out of the gate, I am reminded, this is just another horse race.

NO it isn’t,… COME ON!!! …this is the Kentucky Derby!!! for crying out loud!!

Go Baby… Go Baby… Go!!!

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zarvona — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:12:25 GMT

Oh yes, we are the bettors and the procrastinators, the judges and the commentators, the soothsayers and the ones who make the guesses.

Some 30,000 horses are born annually in America with quite a number of those pointed directly toward racing. The owners, being among those that can afford it or among those who just love it too much, point some maybe c. 3,500 to 5,000 of those horses towards national racing--(possibly more),--of which some 500-750 end up as 2 year olds with Derby aspirations. From among that select group, some circa 400 are nominated as ‘early candidates’ for the Super Bowl of racing, the “Kentucky Derby. From among their lot, and around the month of October of the year before, we begin keeping a closer eye on that bunch hoping to spot the next real Derby contenders. By Feb., we have a list of 150 that have hit the track, knowing that there are 50, or so, more out there that will come along maturing later. By Pool #1, we already have a top 120 list of sprinters and former Turf entrants from which we procrastinate further. By Pool #2, we have a top 60 list. Along the way at about this time some late Derby nominees add into the mix paying the late entry fees from profits accrued through wins! By Pool #3 we have a top 40-50 list, and etc., some of course which we now rank much higher than others, being where but a few major prep races are left to change our opinions further. And some 2 weeks before the event, after all the major preps have been run, we have formed our own strong opinions. A few days before Derby Day, about 15-18 of those 40 become members of the 20 known gate entries. From among those 15, we take some 1-4,--or 4-11 or so,--with us going to the OTB or our favorite track, carrying the high expectations of cashing the correct WPS ticket, or of cashing the even more elusive correct Exacta or correct Trifecta ticket on, etc. That is, such is the nature of the game,--for some of us,--in preparing for the “greatest 2 minutes in sports”. Yes, all that work for just 1:59 to 2:04 minutes of seeing how well we guessed the eventual outcome in an eventual c. 20 horse fielded race.

Or, of course, one can just ignore all that work and just show up at the track on Derby Day and get the opinion of others,--like the likes of you and me,--who have done some homework already. Or, one can go to their favorite OTB or open track on Derby day and bet the low odds horses others are apparently betting on. Or, one can take a chance on some long shot with high odds because you liked his name, or for whatever was their other reasoning, etc. Or, supposedly, one can quickly read over the program on Derby Day,--if as a part time player only one actually knows how to read the program,--and attempt to guess correctly and get lucky, with the program being but a paper document that most buy only for the souvenir sentimental value and then throw away later anyway!!!

But, it is Derby Day!!! and it’s a fun outing for you and the family, or you and your buddies, or just you alone with some hopes! (Then again, maybe, you don’t take the wife or the hubbie along because you don’t want them to see where that hard-earned money went!) Although, what makes it fun for the goers is that the betting pools are much larger on Derby Day and payoffs are slightly inflated, more so than on any normal Sat. or weekday outing at the track.

Yes, I have my opinion of this year’s potential runners, all earlier expressed. But, like the years when “Giacomo” (sc?) or “Mine the Bird” won, I don’t get it right all the time. Thusly, no one has to even listen to the predictions of others, me included.

In any event, thank you Mr. Haskin and Blood Horse for keeping is informed and thank you for a forum so that we too could also express our opinions. I love starting around Feb. with my ‘sack of potatoes’,--as Steve once referred to my early lengthy lists with, and then--whittling them down to my 4-6 that I take to the track with me on Derby Day, all to spend some few dollars on, and always hoping for that satisfying feeling of cashing the correct Derby ticket, that being in whatever form of a ticket that that eventually turns out to be for me. And all with that feeling being the accomplishment of all the hard yet fun work put into it all over the past six months hoping to find and believing all the while that those 4-6 runners will produce some payoff magic. It doesn’t always work out the way I earlier on foresaw the outcome or the way I had hoped, but hey, why are we on the planet anyway???

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zarvona — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:04:08 GMT

Among those one-time hopefuls who had hopes of a gate slot in the Kty. Oaks or a gate slot in the Kty. Derby, let us not forget the likes of: “Tiz Chrome”; “Clutch Player”; “Truth or Justice”, “The Mailet”, and etc., whose lives were lost along the way to our eventual 2 minutes of hopes possibly fulfilled. Or, of those from among the list of the many injured, broken down, or that became sick along their pathway, such as: “Aspire”; “Brake Lights”; “Buddy’s Saint”; “Concord Point” “Dryfly”; “Dublin”; “Jung Man Scott”; “Maximus Ruler”; “Mendip”; “Necessary Evil”; “Odysseus”; “Pisitelli”; “Vale of York”; “Winslow Homer”; “William’s Kitten”, and etc., and the many others of which I undoubtedly failed to further record the names of due to lack of information out there, or that I just missed some update on, or that possibly went un-recorded to the public. To you my hat is off and a moment of silence was spent. And, yet thank you also, where thankfully, some like “Dublin” and “Concord Point” were most fortunately returned to us.

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Bloodline Bob — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 19:03:34 GMT

I have one other angle that I consider for the Ky.Derby and that angle comes up with Stately Victor and Dean's Kitten--BTW they are both trained by a trainer named Mike Maker, I don't bet trainers but that is strange that these 2 horses had the same trainer. I would like to keep this angle to myself for now to protect any big odds but if it works in this Ky.Derby I'll reveal it publicly. It worked last year with Mine That Bird and some other recent Derby winners. I did have the 2009 Ky.Derby exacta when I combined 2 of my angles together. I don't like synthetic to dirt angles but that Stately Victor won his last on the non-dirt so...I'm still studying. TCC, Endorsement is my W.S. Farish angle to be part of the superfecta. I'll disclose why the year 1997 sire is a key this year after the 2010 Ky.Derby is over. I have studied several different angles to the Ky.Derby history(all very unique) and have had great success since 1998.They definitely are NOT for your average,typical handicapper. My record since 1998 isn't to shabby: 1998=REAL QUIET,1999=CHARISMATIC,2001=MONARCHOS exacta with Invisible Ink,2003=FUNNY CIDE,2005=GIACOMO,2006=BARBARO,2009=MINE THAT BIRD exacta with Pioneer of the Nile. In the last 12 years I've had 7 winners + 2 exacta's AND I've been betting the Kentucky Derby every year since 1972(Riva Ridge).For the record I did NOT bet SECRETARIAT,SEATTLE SLEW or AFFIRMED.

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Dr Drunkinbum — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:26:45 GMT

STEVE

Checkout this quote that I just came across from an article by Mike "Lucky" English for American Turf Monthly May 2003: "Looking for a new angle to play the 129th Kentucky Derby? Then consider betting on a horse or horses that ran SECOND in one of the five key Derby preps--the Grade II Arkansas Derby, the Grade I Florida Derby, the Grade I Santa Anita Derby, the Grade I Toyota Blue Grass Stakes and the Grade I Wood Memorial. Seven of the past 12 Kentucky Derby winners PLACED in one of these five key races; two of the same seven also won one of these major preps." Keep up the good work !!!!!!

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tcc — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 05:43:03 GMT

Bloodline Bob:

Eskendereya and American Lion's sire were 1997, Endorsement's sire was 1993.

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Seymour — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 04:56:36 GMT

These two horses are the ice cold exacta Sidneys candy and endorsement. But also keep an eye on Super Saver Calvin Borel jockey,loves churchhill,and moves way up on an off track.

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Coach — Sun, 18 Apr 2010 01:02:19 GMT

May be the best derby ever with speed that have the ability to carry long and some fine come from off the pace; rabbits,stayers...

BIG PAYOFFS ARE COMING!!!

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Bloodline Bob — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 22:35:40 GMT

OK--I'M DOWN TO 3 HORSES FOR THE 2010 KY.DERBY: ESKENDREYA, ENDORSEMENT, AMERICAN LION. MY 1997 SIRE ANGLE IS STILL LOOKING REAL GOOD NOW.

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joep — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 12:03:57 GMT

I respect Steve Haskin, I look forward to his BC picks in the fall. But I must say I think that Super Saver and Stately Victor are 2 horses that won't hit the board on Derby Day. I see Endorsement moving way up, Eskendereya to win, Lookin @ Lucky and Sidneys candy will also be in the mix

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Dr Drunkinbum — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:53:26 GMT

Ranagulzion

I'm so glad you agree. What a treat.

Mary

What's most interesting is what Stevens said about Conveyance. And Baffert still thinks a lot of him. As far as Lucky, I wouldn't be the least bit concerned his first workout on the track. He might just be cautious until he gets more used to the track.

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Dr Drunkinbum — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:04:37 GMT

Zookeeper

You are so right, we have to start somewhere. I guess that is the purpose of the lists. Just watch out for getting fixated on the ones on the top or anywhere for that matter. You want another one stuck in your head? "For a 3 hour tour, a 3 hour tour, with Gilligan, the skipper too, the millionaire and his wife, the professor and Mary Ann here on Derby Isle." The Derby is too much fun to not bet. Plus you have a crack at riches usually.

MARY-Steve Haskin said he won't be there until one week before the Derby. Thanks for the Gary Stevens quote. That's very interesting.

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Zookeeper — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:47:44 GMT

Dr Drunkinbum,

Stop!!! You keep interrupting my serious KD studies with your relentless sense of humor! First it was an intrusive tune and now it's fits of hysterical laughter. Enough! :)

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Dr Drunkinbum — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:31:38 GMT

This is getting scary. You thought the seasonal flu, swine flu, and bird flu was bad. None are as bad as Derby Fever. Some of these owners have it really, really bad. The DERBY TRIAL is back baby !!!! I have no problem with Pleasant Prince entering. He's a sound horse and barely ran on Apr 10. Could be tough to beat 85ina50 at a mile though. Setsuko should give it a shot. It is on dirt. Maybe he can pick up his feet a little sooner a little faster on dirt. We're back in the old days now !!! Woohoo !!!!!! We're getting closer to having that "Morning of The Derby Trial." Win it in the morning and you're in The Derby in the afternoon !!!!!

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Mary — Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:02:49 GMT

Mr. Haskin, I'm not sure if you're in Louisville but if you are, did you see Lookin @ Lucky's Churchill work yesterday (Thursday, April 15)? Gary Stevens said on HRTV that Lucky did not appear to like the surface and to the effect that he seemed to tire easily on it. I can't recall Mr. Stevens ever being so negative about any horse's pre-Derby works before (he's critiqued them the past couple years) so it concerns me.

He also said Conveyance looked awesome and appeared to relish the surface.

If you saw their works I'm wondering if you share Mr. Stevens opinion?