Derby Dozen (video) - April 2, 2012 - Presented by Shadwell Farm

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Bigtex — Mon, 09 Apr 2012 15:57:55 GMT

Marilyn

It's too bad there isn't time for another prep for PAYNTER before Kentucky. Doing what he did Saturday was very impressive, I thought. Interesting to see how he moves forward off such a big jump where he held his own like he did.

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El Kabong — Mon, 09 Apr 2012 12:54:10 GMT

BIgtex,

SA was a real stretch run and you have to tip your hat to the two winners and marvel at the genius of Baffert. He has placed Bodemeister in the right race to get earnings but he damned near stole the show with an allowance winner who proved to be worthy, but who was probably supposed to be just a gage. Just think if Fed Biz had run Saturday? Remember, Blueskiesnrainbows ran 3rd to Fed Biz as well, but by 12 lengths. I hope Fed Biz is doing ok I was really looking forward to the TC run with that colt but alas the dreaded injuries that have taken him and Algorithm away from this fantastic journey.

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Footlick — Mon, 09 Apr 2012 03:29:53 GMT

"Street Life" also sung by Randy Crawford

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Ranagulzion — Sun, 08 Apr 2012 21:00:13 GMT

Steve,

I'll pre-empt your next and perhaps final Derby dozen with my proposed top five at this point:

1) Union Rags: the results of the major preps confirm him as head honcho of this crop. Contrary to what some pedigree analysts think, this colt will relish the ten furlongs of the Derby, runs well on a fast or sloppy track and will be trained to the minute for his big date in Louisville.

2) Gemologist: toyed with Alpha after getting bored, once in front in the Wood. This undefeated colt will run all day and has the heart of a champion. Must be followed until his colours are lowered.

3) Daddy Nose Best: Improving with every race, will be closing hand over fist going ten furlongs and has to be amongst to elite colts this year to have run a 100 Beyer speed going two turns.

4) Creative Cause: a consistent top performer that seem to lack that extra umph to score when it really matters against the top three but can't be left out of calculations.

5) I'll Have Another: defeated Creative Cause fairly and squarely in the SA Derby but might have had a harder race and might not relish the extra distance as much as Creative Cause might in the Derby.

If the connections of Trinniberg succomb to derby fever, pace setters and stalkers like Hansen, Bodemeister and Take Chgarge Indy are going to be toast. You may need to comment on the likelihood of this scenario playing out.

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Bigtex — Sun, 08 Apr 2012 18:37:31 GMT

Man, I dont know what to make of GEMOLOGIST. When he separated I thought he was going to just increase his lead from there. Did he get bored on the lead? Then, you think ALPHA'S going to blow right by him, BOOM, another gear and he finishes with a slow time but his ears pricked.

Is he still green or is he toying with his competition? One thing for sure, he does not want to lose! There was so much hype with UNCLE MO only to end with disappointment, I think PLETCHER has downplayed what he thinks is also a pretty nice horse in GEMOLOGIST so as not to expect as much this year if things don't work out.

Wow, what a SA Derby! Just think if BODEMEISTER would've been in the race!

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Cassandra.Says — Sun, 08 Apr 2012 17:12:11 GMT

Flash back to 1964 Derby: A quick little horse, two year old champion, gets first run and a good big horse comes after him in the stretch, eats up a three length lead, reaches the saddle cloth.

Quick little horse flattens his ears and holds Hill Rise there for a sixteenth.

(I'm sure I've dreamt this but I rarely remember my dreams.)

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Slew — Sun, 08 Apr 2012 13:15:25 GMT

Happy Easter, everyone.

Robin M: My intent was to show that a horse with guts, will move out of a tough spot by splitting front-runners to get on the lead. In case you didn't notice, UR would not go between TCI and Reveron when there was a mile between them. He wasted time going to the outside. It's not that Revenue is better; it's that she was courageous and more tactical.

And I have to say the best, most spirited horse on the tracks today was a lead pony named Lava Man. Were those bows he was taking as he pranced along dragging I'll Have Another behind him? He was so full of himself, and apparently passed on that spirit to I'll Have Another. Awesome showdowns in the Wood and SA Derby...and the best horses outdid their contemporaries. Gemologist remains undefeated. Alpha showed me a lot more courage and adaptability, and a lot more speed. Creative Cause had the race sewn up...until I'll Have Another nosed him out. Exciting duels. And I still don't quite understand where the Ill Derby put Done Talking. It was a great stretch run, but I'm unfamiliar with most of the horses he beat. And a 1:39 mile won't cut it.

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marilyn braudrick — Sun, 08 Apr 2012 02:08:06 GMT

o.k-egg on my face no problem BUT my horse Paynter, of the dream I had, went from his first ever race, a 5 1/2 furlong maiden win on feb. 18, 2012 at Santa Anita, to 4th (in the money) in a $750,000.00 Grade One Race , the Santa Anita Derby. I accept all your thanks for introducing him to you, since all his works were under the radar at Hollywood Park. We will be seeing him later this year if he didn't injure himself when he reared up in the "House" stall in the paddock saddling area. The "house" is in the saddling enclosure at Santa Anita, He reared up and slammed himself into the wall and still ran 4th ( i did not see any vet checking him).. after that he let out a huge roar of a whinny as they were still trying to saddle him in the "house' which is in the corner of the saddling enclosure in santa anita's paddock..I am not ashamed to have had this dream.. This is a big jump for a 3 yr. old.

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marilyn braudrick — Sun, 08 Apr 2012 01:51:23 GMT

o.k-egg on my face no problem BUT my horse Paynter of the dream went from his first ever race, a 5 1/2 furlong maiden win on feb. 18, 2012, to to 4th (in the money) in a $750,000.00 Grade One Race , the Santa Anita Derby.I accept all your thanks for introducing him to you, since all his works were under the radar at Hollywood Park. We will be seeing him later this year if he didn't injure himself when he reared up in the "House" stall in the paddock saddling area. The "house" iis n the saddling enclosure at Santa Anita, He reared up and slammed himself into the wall and still ran 4th ( i did not see any vet checking him).. after that he let out a huge roar of a whinny as they were still trying to saddle him in the "house' which is in the corner of the saddling enclosure in santa anita's paddock..I am not ashamed to have had this dream.. This is a big jump for a 3 yr. old.

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El Kabong — Sun, 08 Apr 2012 01:12:02 GMT

Steve,

I don't see the Bluegrass or the Ark giving us anyone dramatically new. I believe Optimizer will crack the list before long, outside of that, your dozen looks spot on with some order juggling but I think you are solid with a week of Preps to go. I'd have Gemologist, Take Charge Indy, Hansen, I'll Have Another, Creative Cause in my top 5 (I'll wait on Dullahan usurping the throne until he earns it next week) but the list looks solid as a rock. I feel bad for El Padrino, he probably won't get in but he'll make for a solid entry in the Preakness if he doesn't. This is getting real fun. Many coming to the party in solid shape and nobody really standing out too far above the rest. I think the Favorite will be around 6 or 8 to one!!!!! 5 digit Trifectas? ELLLL KABONGGGG!!!!

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Point Given — Sat, 07 Apr 2012 00:50:40 GMT

TC PREP'S PICKS ON SAT(4/7/12)

WOOD MEMO-STREET LIFE

ILL DBY-MORGAN'S GUERRILLA

SAD-PAYNTER

BAY SHORE-TRINNIBERG

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Alex'sBigFan — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 23:04:03 GMT

RiverCitySmitty,

I think the original writer was Will Jennings or Joe Sample and BB King did a variation of it as well as the Crusaders. The song just popped into my head when I heard Street Life's name. If he is anything like his sire and grandsire he's got a great chance.

Let's see what he does. If Street Life comes up the Wood winner Clavin will be itching to change mounts!!!!!

Thanks for the info on Tim Ice's Slamit. Cute name.

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robinm — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 21:32:29 GMT

Slew; there is no valid comparison between Union Rags Florida Derby and Gulfstream Race 9 April 5. The FD was 1-1/8 mile on dirt and GP Race 9 4/5 was 5 furlongs on grass. The opening quarter of the FD was about 24 seconds (as I recall) and the opening quarter in GP race 9 was 21 seconds flat. If your intent was to infer that Union Rags is a lesser quality horse than Revenue, I'm not buying.

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zarvona — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 18:11:30 GMT

Not that many of us I imagine resort backward to reading old blog postings, yet where back on blog “stardate” -2/23/12 I once posted a breakdown of Pletcher’s ‘29 kazillion’ barn TC nominee hopefuls and Baffert’s ’21 bazillion’ TC barn nominee hopeful, in which I broke down into my own designated “A”-“B” -“C” categories, where I had assumed that I would follow the “A” listed mounts and the promising “B” group listed mounts with more passion. HAH! A review of that listisg recently brought to my attention that one of those listed off Baffert’s “A” list was in fact a lil hoss name of , “M.C.’s Dream”…Long having heard nothing from him, we now discover that … a horse name of “Paynter” is listed as:

“Owner: Zayat Stables, LLC

Breeder: Diamond A Racing Corp.

State Bred: Kty.

Winnings: $33,600

Starts: 1- 1 - 0 - 0,

Won Debut by 4 ¼ lengths (5 ½ fur. Msw.) -02/18/12 Santa Anita

Foaled March 4, 2009.

Originally called “M C's Dream’ ” …

and guess what folks… high on Baffert’s list yet a SLOWWW developer, “Paynter” aka

“M.C.’s Dream” gets his dream shot at some coveted earnings this weekend… woooohh Nelly!! .

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zarvona — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 14:41:39 GMT

Stuck at the ranch this weekend unable to get away, thusly will be watching NBC ((TY GOD for allowing horse racing to return to public television--the only hope for this sport long term)) where I can only think that I must be a terrible handicapper because in the Ashland I just like “Stephanie’s Kitten” ((one of my top 3 fillies, and hoping the layoff has no affect)) yet in the big 1 1/8 boyz PREPs this weekend, I seem to be leaning toward all of the 10-1 shots….???? thusly that gives me TEETH in the Resorts Casino NY City yada yads blah blah balh yada yada Wood Memorial… ((don’t see why we just don't go back and call it “THE WOOD” !?!)) and “Morgan’s Gurrellia in the Ill. Derby, and since I took nothing but 10-1 shots in the others, I have to try “Midnight Transfer” in the SA Derby… (although thinking “Bodemesiter” was the real smart one here to seek his graded earnings elsewhere as I will predict now that “HOLY CANDY” will scratch out of the SA Derby pre race and also run elsewhere!! Go Baby Go Baby GO!!! Happy Easter ALL !!

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Pedigree Ann — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 14:23:10 GMT

Michigan Mike:

Almost true about 10f before the Derby. Canonero II had beaten older horses at 10f in Venezuela before running in the Derby. For its first few runnings the UAE Derby was at 10f and several of its winners came to the Derby, without success.

And a lo-ong time ago, a colt called Stagehand won the Santa Anita Derby so easily that the trainer wheeled him back a week later in the 10f Santa Anita Hcp. As a 3yo, he was assigned only 100 lbs. and he beat Seabiscuit by a nose, getting 30 lbs. Stagehand was a pre-race favorite for the Derby, but finished 3rd in the Trial and didn't start in the main event. Stagehand was champion 3yo of 1938.

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Bigtex — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 13:57:00 GMT

I find this bit of information interesting, especially, in light of those critical of UNION RAGS and EL PADRINO in the FLORIDA DERBY:

Coming home the final furlong:

TAKE CHARGE INDY in 12:83

Pretty darn good considering

BIG BROWN 12:98 (faster pace, however)

BARBARO 12:93 (again faster pace)

Even though he was flat that day, probable bounce, running wide:

EL PADRINO 12:75

And this should've been expected:

UNION RAGS 12:58

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RiverCitySmitty — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 12:19:52 GMT

Gee Alex'sBigFan, I didn't know BB did Street Life. I first heard it on a Crusaders album years back when. Still have it somewhere in the attic. I might have to dig it out while waiting for the Wood Saturday. If Chad Brown can teach him to change leads he'll have a big chance. I don't care for anyone in the Illinois Derby, but whoever wins will earn a starting spot in Louisville. Tim Ice has one in there named Slamit who's 2 for 2 since moving to his barn and adding Lasix.

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Alex'sBigFan — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 03:01:02 GMT

Some of the lyrics from the old B.B. King song "Street Life:"

"You let the people see

Just who you want to be

And every night you shine

Just like a Super Star

That's how the life is played

A ten cent Masquerade

You dress, you walk, and talk

You're who you think you are.

Street Life........

You can run away from time.

Street Life........

For a nickel and a dime.

Street Life........

But you better not get old

Street Life........

Or you're gonna feel the cold."

Go Street Life!!!!!!!!!!!

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Alex'sBigFan — Fri, 06 Apr 2012 02:35:52 GMT

My picks for the Wood:

Gemologist

Street Life

My Adonis

If Gemologist and My Adonis show their continued consistency and finish in the money that will be something that "doggone it we can sink our teeth into." Teeth of the Dog for fourth!

Marilyn,

Stick with that dream. In 2007, 2 weeks prior to the Derby, I dreamt that Street Sense won the Derby but it was in a small town in New Jersey. They paraded him down the street and I saw the name in the dream on his saddle cloth as clear as day. I had wanted Hard Spun to get it so bad but somehow knew it would be Street Sense. I agree with Deacon, Street Sense is just as good as Curlin. As a matter of fact the three of them were awesome, SS, Curlin, and Hard Spun.

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Slew — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 23:46:48 GMT

Wow...what good news...Take Control is coming back. His debut held all the magic of a Sea The Stars type run. Hope he stays healthy.

And I don't know who got to watch the 9th race at Gulfstream today, but if you get a chance...watch it. Revenue did everything Union Rags should have been able to do. Moving from last, stuck on the rail, making her move splitting horses and forging her way to cross the wire first. When you see moves like that, you understand better what you didn't see in the Fla. Derby.

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Mike from Michigan — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:51:22 GMT

@Cassandra....... Derby horses have never gone a mile and a quarter.

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marilyn braudrick — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:26:17 GMT

To Predict,

In my dream it was The Derby, the Kentucky Derby- but when i found out he wasnʻt nominated, I lost faith and thought maybe it was another--Illinois, Santa Anita or Arkansas but then a blogger called "Point Given" wrote in that he WAS NOMINATED as his former name, M.C.ʻs Dream, so i looked that up and there he was! Voila!They had changed his name after he was nominated in the early stages and before he raced on 2/18/12 at Santa Anita.

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predict — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 21:33:17 GMT

I have the feeling the monster that is about to be unleashed this weekend is Our Entourage, who may not like the dirt, but his connections aren't convinced he doesn't, so I say there remains more to learn; and if he beats Currency Swap, a horse that I just think has been totally underrated so far, then Our Entourage will go to the Kentucky Derby, and I think(IMHO) he could very well win it!

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El Kabong — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 21:21:41 GMT

Cassandra.Says,

The reason you didn't see a European style move from Dullahan is simple. He ran it as if he was on dirt. By this I mean he produced as Steve very accurately stated, a dirt move in the turn instead of waiting to make a stretch run after straightening out. But he did make a very good steady closing effort closing in splits of 11+, and finishing the last 3F's in 34+. And that was with little urging and his head up most of the way. That was a great race for a horse returning off a layoff. Howe Great is a seasoned runner and Dullahan was gaining on him. I think we will see a big effort at the Bluegrass. With Hansen in the race, I think this will be the best Prep of the season.