In Utero Foals: November vs. January

re: In Utero Foals: November vs. January

nsauer — Fri, 04 Apr 2014 12:19:41 GMT

UnionRags123,

Ponche de Leona was sold with Mucho Macho Man in utero in 2007 at Keeneland November for $33,000. She has been through the ring four times since, though, selling for $5,000 in 2009 (in foal to Gottcha Gold), $300,000 in 2011 (in foal to Chestertown Slew), and $775,000 in January 2014 (in foal to Distorted Humor). She did not meet her reserve in 2012 when she was offered in foal to Tapit at the Fasig-Tipton November sale.

re: In Utero Foals: November vs. January

UnionRags123 — Thu, 03 Apr 2014 22:55:59 GMT

Mucho Macho Man sold for 33k? I thought he sold for more...

re: In Utero Foals: November vs. January

nsauer — Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:49:14 GMT

Coldfacts,

Etched was sold in utero when Unbridled Elaine brought $4.4 million in foal to Forestry at the Keeneland November sale in 2004.

re: In Utero Foals: November vs. January

Coldfacts — Mon, 20 Jan 2014 15:20:10 GMT

Where dose Etched fit in?

re: In Utero Foals: November vs. January

nsauer — Mon, 20 Jan 2014 13:02:00 GMT

poormansracehorse,

8,887 foals sold in utero were included in this study. The study covered a span of five years for each sale, foals sold in utero from 2003-07 for Keeneland November and 2004-08 for Keeneland January. Only foals reportedly born in the U.S., Canada, Europe, or Japan were included.

re: In Utero Foals: November vs. January

poormansracehorse — Sun, 19 Jan 2014 18:51:17 GMT

What was the actual sample size?

re: In Utero Foals: November vs. January

sceptre — Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:13:19 GMT

Another thought provoking piece of work...If one assumes that the in-uteros of similarly priced mares in BOTH sales earned/performed similarly, then this should be compared with the earnings/performance vs price of KY sales yearlings (for example). Should the latter evidence a far greater correspondence (i.e. sales price more closely correspond with earnings), all this then may simply tell us that conformation (and ability to pass the "vet") far outweighs pedigree (which is essentially all you "see" with in-uteros). But, even should this turn out to be the case, it shouldn't be generalized to all horses, everywhere, as there may be a "need" still for some base line of quality pedigree (generally on offer at KY sales).

re: In Utero Foals: November vs. January

Ian Tapp — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 22:47:33 GMT

Very interesting. This really illustrates the premium that the market places on commercial/proven stock.