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A Visit to Fair Hill

Editor’s Note: A native of England, Iain Holmes started working with racehorses at age 11. He holds a bachelor's degree in business from the University of Buckingham, and he undertook post-graduate studies at Harvard, where he also played on their polo team. He worked for trainer Michael Matz before going out on his own to found the Iain Holmes Racing Partnership.

I was recently on a business trip down to Fair Hill to meet Bruce Jackson in regards to sending horses to him next year. When The Blood-Horse heard about my trip, I was asked to write a blog entry about Nicanor, since I am a former employee of the Matz barn.

Lacking in journalistic talent, I arrived early and took copious notes. Afterward, I spent the better part of a day mulling over ideas on what to write. Having tried to start the piece multiple times, I couldn’t decide if I was suffering from writer’s block, or if I was struggling to find an interesting aspect to write about, as Nicanor seems remarkably normal.

He doesn’t get extra mints from Michael, or any more attention than Ready Set, another Lael horse. His routine is not unique; he does everything exactly the same as every other horse in the Michael’s barn (and as thousands of horses across the United States do every day). He jogs to the right and then gallops to the left.

He does not get bottled water, and I even checked his shoes, and they were not made out of gold. Please don’t get me wrong--he is a strapping colt and exudes class and confidence, but at Michael’s barn you could say the same about numerous horses.

So here I was, a green journalist, being asked to write about a racehorse who rivals an Equicizer horse (www.equicizer.com) for experience on the track and by all accounts leads an incredibly normal life. 

After twirling my pencil for the better part of an hour, I put the pieces together as to why Nicanor is special. His brother introduced thousands of horse lovers to the wonderful sport of horseracing. There is little debate that the largest growth in racing fans is from horse lovers – some took riding lessons, some have owned and/or still own horses, but all of them smile at seeing a horse in a field or on TV.

These people not only are digging into their pockets to add TVG to their cable package, but they are also raising substantial sums of money in order to re-home and retrain racehorses (or really any horse that comes their way that needs help). They have also joined our unified front, working to make racing as safe for our horses as possible, and I would like to be the first to say “welcome.”

People want Nicanor to win the Triple Crown so he can finish what Barbaro started but was unable to do. However, there is an even more important role for him, one he started long ago. While Barbaro attracted these horse lovers to our sport, Nicanor is here to educate them about it.

As he grows, their knowledge will too, and while his triumph at the track is cause for celebration for his people, his presence at the track is celebration for the sport. We will soon have more fans that are educated horse-lovers, and what could be better than that?

So each day Nicanor is standing on normal racing plates, drinking water that came out of the hose, and just being a normal horse, he is also helping to teach our new fans – many of whom have already dedicated so much time, money, and effort in helping the horses we love – about our sport. They are learning what goes into training a racehorse and about the care they receive.

That sounds like a pretty special horse to me, and as success greets him at the track, he will only get more special.

Stay tuned for part two, which will look at what goes on during this stage of Nicanor's training.

 

75 Comments:

Iian,

Let me help you out.  What is a normal routine?  I have no idea what that is.  Are there different training stages they go through or what is the progress for training?  How does Michael judge progress of a horse?  

Do people like Nicanor?  Does he seem happy?  Does he like to race?  How many 2 year old horses does Michael have?

MJ 03 Jul 2008 9:37 AM

Well said.

Amber Ivy 03 Jul 2008 9:45 AM

Iain, what I would give to be you!!  Nicanor is and always will be a special horse even if he never races.  

I loved your article and Barbaro definitely has changed many things regarding horses and horse racing.  We will be his voice forever.

FOB, Marilyn Haley

Marilyn 03 Jul 2008 10:10 AM

You've hit the nail on the head, exactly. I was a casual racing fan until Barbaro came along - in fact, pretty much a casual horse fan. All that changed on the day that beautiful bay won Kentucky Derby 132. I became part of Barbaro Nation on that First Saturday in May 2006 - and now, it truly is All About the Horse. I really believe Nic has great things ahead of him - it may be a Triple Crown, it may not, but he will play an important role in Barbaro's continuing saga, and, you're so right, education as to the many and varied issues is key. Looking forward to following Nic's journey at Fair Hill and beyond. Thanks for taking us along!

Sally in Indy 03 Jul 2008 10:33 AM

Iain,

Sorry, I typed your name wrong.  Thanks for the info.

MJ 03 Jul 2008 10:37 AM

thanks for the update. Do you know how he is progressing? Do they have any idea of when he would make his first appearance on the track?

Regards.

Ruffian IL 03 Jul 2008 10:42 AM

Well said Marilyn. Nicanor doesn't have to race, he only has to be a happy well adjusted horse. After all his brother, Barbaro owns the hearts of people all over the globe. He is "Very Special" and always will be. I hope that Bloodhorse will continue to keep up on is activities and abilities.

Bur really, all he has to do is be HAPPY and HEALTHY!!

FOB

Linda ( FOB ) 03 Jul 2008 10:48 AM

Well, I'm sorry to say, Nicanor is a regular horse. We have to stop heaping all of this on him just because of who is brother was. Look at the Green Monkey, $15 Million and what did he do, not much of anything.

Nicanor is a handsome beast and I wish him well, but mostly, I wish him to be safe out there.

Don't put him up too high people, he's a horse, not a God.

Andrea_Bay 03 Jul 2008 11:04 AM

I'm all for Nicanor winning the Triple Crown in 2009. Remember,he doesn't need to win every race, he only needs enough graded stakes earnings to place him comfortably in the top 10.

I not only wish, I pray he gets the essential seasoning of both a two-year-old and three-year-old horse. It's really my opinion, but I don't want to see him race on anything else than a dirt track, until after the Triple Crown series.

I can hardly wait to watch his first race! E-mail me if anyone has info on where his debut will be. nickwhack@yahoo.com

Nick Klar 03 Jul 2008 11:21 AM

Iain,

For someone "lacking in journalistic talent," you sure have a way with words!  It was a great read.  I agree with you 100%.  It's not about whether Nicanor ever wins.  It's about Nicanor giving casual fans a reason to want to learn more about horseracing.

Andrea,

Is this your first time reading this blog?  If you had taken the time to read the opinions of those that frequent it instead of just rushing in and judging us all, you would have seen that nobody is calling Nicanor a God.  You cannot even compare this situation to The Green Monkey.  That was a horse selling at a high price for no particular reason besides human pride; this is a horse related to another horse that touched people across the globe.  For the most part, the fans of Nicanor understand that he may never be a great racehorse.  It doesn't matter.  He is drawing people into this sport, which is what it needs.  I am a huge fan of horseracing.  Sometimes, I don't think I could live without it (okay, being melodramatic.)  I know that attracting fans is vital to the survival of horseracing, especially little tracks like my home track of Fairmount Park.  Therefore, I embrace anything that draws people to the sport.  Perhaps, instead of insinuating that these new fans are a bunch of idiots for having dreams (which is what I got out of your post,) knowledgable fans can use this opportunity to teach the newbies about the realities of horseracing.

Here is the reality:  Nicanor's chances of being a stakes-caliber horse?  Well, 10% would probably be generous.  However, this is horseracing, and the impossible happens every day.  I don't think any of us would suddenly turn our backs on Nicanor should he never win a race, but we sure are going to celebrate if he does!!

Kelly S 03 Jul 2008 12:08 PM

Nick,

Have you ever signed up for Virtual Stable at equibase.com?  You can place a horse in your virtual stable, and they will email you every time that horse works or is entered into a race.  The will also email you a link after the race to pull up the results chart.

Kelly S 03 Jul 2008 12:11 PM

I think a lot of people are putting pressure on this beautiful horse because of his brother-but let's not forget that Barbaro has another brother that was born 3 months after Barbaro died- Lentinor!! He will be the one to watch in 2010, so if you have your hopes set on Nicanor-don't feel let down if he doesn't come through because you will have Lentinor!!

SQ 03 Jul 2008 12:32 PM

Nick,

You can add Nicanor and other horses to a virtual stable (http://www.equibase.com).  You will receive email notifications of when a horse works, when and where it is entered to race and result notifications.

Laura R 03 Jul 2008 12:51 PM

I would love to see Nic be a TC winner, but if he isn't that's fine with me, as long as he is safe,sound and a happy horse

Thanks for your article. I just love any info on Nicanor.

kath (FOB from SC) 03 Jul 2008 1:29 PM

Iain,

Thank you and can't wait for Part II!

MVH 03 Jul 2008 1:46 PM

Iain,

Well said.

Cheryl 03 Jul 2008 1:54 PM

Iain - You did a great job!  This was a wonderful entry.  Can't wait to read more about the absolutely "normal" Nicanor!

LindaVA 03 Jul 2008 2:16 PM

Why can't the Bloodhorse go check on Nicanor? This guy hardly said anything about Nicanor. We want to know everything!right?

BG 03 Jul 2008 2:17 PM

I wish that some of you people thought better and not post anything. I am an avid horse fan for many many years. The association people have with Nicanor is a legacy that connects him with the death of his brother Barbaro. If anyone has the idea that he is going to be good as his brother, you can put that to rest. Barbaro was a freak. But hopefully Nicanor will run well enough so that people can learn the sport of horseracing and through him and his brother. And whomever compared him to The Green Monkey is ridiculous. The Monkey was a bidding war between 2 idiots that have nothing better to do with their money. Here's the difference.. Nicanor will be cheered for regardless of how he runs. The Monkey was laughed at for the money they spent. Learn more about the sport itself and then maybe you would understand. C'mon Nicanor and Lentenor!!!!

Jimmy M 03 Jul 2008 3:21 PM

Really more of a question than a comment....did the names Nicanor & Lentinor come from the same source as Barbaro??  Mr. Matz does have both Nicanor & Lentinor in his barn, yes?

Mary W, Hawaii 03 Jul 2008 3:42 PM

What a perfectly wonderful article.  Thanks for writing it and I look forward to part 2.

Gwen 03 Jul 2008 3:56 PM

Mary, to learn more about the names, visit the previous post entitled All in a Name, which was posted in March. Here is the link:

cs.bloodhorse.com/.../names-of-the-foxhounds.aspx

Also, Lentenor is a yearling (he was born last year), so he is not at the track yet.

Hope that helps!

aduckworth 03 Jul 2008 4:03 PM

Andrea_Bay; I believe The Green Monkey sold for 16 million.

Jimmy: Chill out. I'm pretty sure the comparison was only due to hype. Which regardless of it's root, they both have/had enormous hype.

It sounds like you guys are expecting these blog authors to come back saying, "The best horse that ever lived." If you want that stuff, maybe Rick Dutrow ought to be writing the blog!

jj 03 Jul 2008 4:05 PM

Yes Mary. both names came from a houndog painting that the Jackson's owned. They were named form the picture starting right to left. I don't know what the next was is though.Matz has Nicanor in his care.

Jimy M 03 Jul 2008 4:08 PM

I thought that Ian wrote a wonderful article.  As a long time horsewoman, the questions from the 'fans' sometimes drive me nuts, but mostly because they could learn so much by reading the previous blogs, and by processing what actual horsemen share with them, and from reading the regular articles on Bloodhorse.    If folks want to learn about the 'day in a life of a horse in training' they should go to the library and get some books on training, or breeding, or starting the race horse. Some of the videos on this site show you the daily routines, such as the one on Funny Cide.  I am sure you could even rent a DVD on training horses.  The video released about Barbaro's Derby, The First Saturday in May (just google it) should be watched by all who want to know about the training of a race horse.  It will give you a good feel for it.

tbpartnerperson43 03 Jul 2008 5:09 PM

Addendum

The great horseman  Jimmy Williams once said, "It's what you learn after you think you know it all, that counts."

tbpartnerperson43 03 Jul 2008 5:09 PM

Mahalo (thanks) to all who answered my query...I follow the races here....always saddened when unforseen happens...but equally glad for all the "good things"...thank goodness for my 'puter!!!!

Mary W, Hawaii 03 Jul 2008 5:22 PM

Aloha again!  Having a "senior" moment here...doesn't the Jackson's have the Mom of "B", "N" & "L"??...if so, lot's to be said about the mare's input into foals...about 85%...correct me if I'm wrong!!!!!

Mary W., Hawaii 03 Jul 2008 6:24 PM

I believe that when Nicanor runs he will be a better horse on the grass as i though that Barbaro would been better on grass then dirt his breeding tells it on both sides i guess will see wont we..  ON THE GREEN MONKEY I SAW THIS HORSE IN SARATOGA AND HE WAS A MONSTER BUT THIS HORSE WAS NEVER TOTALLY HEALTHY.

John A 03 Jul 2008 7:43 PM

No one's putting pressure on Nic, and certainly no one thinks he is a God. But I seee signs of real talent in his works. He does compare right up there with Barbaros works at the same age.  I see, from what I've been reading, a touch of brilliance and it's exciting! There's nothing wrong with hope and faith, the world needs more of both! And also... Nic feels no pressure from us, he can't read. I can't wait to see him run.

Norma Jean

normajean81258 03 Jul 2008 8:38 PM

Isn't Nicanor lucky that he doesn't know that he is expected to finish what Barbaro started. Nobody or no horse could live up to those expectations.

VAClagett 03 Jul 2008 9:43 PM

Thanks lain,  I understand. You were asked to write about Nicanor for a very tough croud. We love him for who he is, who he will always be and not for anything he's done or will ever do. Sure we want him to win every race and if  at all possible in horse language, laugh while doing it. Will it happen? Probably not but like the song in South Pacific " you've got to have a dream, if you don't have a dream, how you gonna make your dream come true ". To Jimmy, Barbaro was not a freak. He was the product of carefull planning and great breeding. Mrs Jackson said Dynaformer was chosen as a sire to add size to La Ville Rouge's offspring and they were fans of Roberto. Study the pedigree and it will help you understand who Barbaro was and why there was such possibilities. Nicanor and Lentenor carry that same unfilled promise. We (the fans) love them, hope the best of everything for them and dream of tomorrow.  

Dona 04 Jul 2008 12:44 AM

Iain, You described me, and I wonder how many others, who own retired racehorses. I have always had an interest in racing but never to the level since Barbaro.  It has been such an education, and I find myself having spirited discussions and becoming involved in horse issues that never engaged me before. Barbaro lives on, not only in his younger brothers, but in how he has awakened wide interest in racing and a deeper concern for horse related issues. I would hope people will try to become really informed and not just jump on emotional bandwagons. I know from my two old guys that the thoroughbred industry turns out wonderful horses that we can all enjoy for many years, and in many ways.

Mary W, Mississippi 04 Jul 2008 4:22 AM

Iain - You don't write like a journalist, you write like a storyteller - well done!  Love the way you bring the reader along on finding the focus of the story.  I look forward to reading more and enjoying your style.  

JudiO 04 Jul 2008 7:45 AM

YOU ARE SO RIGHT... I TTO, WAS A CASUAL RACING FAN, MOSTLY A HORSE LOVER, BARBARO CAPTURED MY HEART, FROM THE FIRST TIME I SAW HIM AT GULFSTREAM PARK. I HAVE CONTINUED TO DEDICATE TIME TO HORSE RACING ISSUES, AND HAVE AQUIRED 2 PATNERSHIPS IN RACEHORSES.  GOD BLESS ALL RACE HORSES....  

denise 04 Jul 2008 8:32 AM

Beautifully put. Nicanor carries a legacy that we all wish to see completed.

free spirit farm 04 Jul 2008 9:18 AM

The horse will not feel any "pressure" He has no idea people all over the world are watching for him to race. History has shown full brothers do not usually live up to the rxpectations of those around them. He has no advantage at the track because he is Barbaro's brother. I would not expect him to win the triple crown.

He might be a nice horse and even a winner but I think it is unlikely he will win the Derby in 2009.

Hope he proves me wrong.

JOANR 04 Jul 2008 9:37 AM

Why does anybody care? I don't. He's just a horse. Stop building him up to be something other than that.

W 04 Jul 2008 11:32 AM

My Guy Barbaro was a terrific book by Prado; I encourage everyone to read it asap.  We're headed to Fair Hill tomorrow a.m. for an event and I wish I could get a glimpse of Nicanor too.  Anyone know if this is possible?

An L. 04 Jul 2008 1:55 PM

It's the Fourth of July, an absolutely beautiful day for our country's birthday here in upstate New York.  I went for a two-mile hike this morning and I thought about where I was a year ago today--at my "home track" Finger Lakes watching the Gutsy Gelding, our homebred Dual Classic winner Funny Cide, win the 1 1/8 mile Wadsworth Memorial Handicap in what turned out to be the final race of his career. He went four-wide around the turn for home, caught Johnie Bye Night at the top of the stretch, and won going away by three lengths.  We were 12,000 strong that day, but we sounded like 120,000! It was so loud I couldn't hear myself yelling.  It was one of the most exciting days of my life--I'll never forget it.  That's what the Sport of Kings is about for me.

I was reading the postings in this edition of the blog and the previous one, and I saw some negativity for the first time.  Everyone is of course entitled to his/her opinion, but I believe it's important to remember why we have this blog in the first place. It's supposed to be for fun,  and  I have learned a great deal about horses and racing from reading all these great posts and many of my own questions have been answered through responses put up by all of you guys out there.  It's a great opportunity to have fun and to learn, too.  It would be wonderful if Nicanor becomes a great racer like big brother Barbaro, but he may not. That's OK. It's still good to read and share these times.  I much prefer keeping it light, informational, and fun.  There's too much pain and sadness in the world to post any more of that here.  As we celebrate America's independence today, I would like to think that we are grateful for this great land and the great sport of horseracing.  Both have their problems, yes, but with hard work, dedication, and faith, those problems can be fixed. We are so fortunate to have what we have. And may Nicanor and Lentenor always run safe and free with the wind.

Hope you all can catch the video on Funny in BloodHorse.com.  He's doing great and looks like he's having a good time as a stable pony.  Thanks for listening--

Kevin J. McAndrew  "KMustang"

Geneseo, New York

KMustang 04 Jul 2008 2:43 PM

aduckworth:  Yes, I know Lentinor is a yearling...guess what I really wanted to know (for sure) that he will end up with Mr. Matz..something we all hope for...he is such a wonderful trainer..and considering his background....well..'nuff said, right?

Mary W, Hawaii 04 Jul 2008 3:10 PM

He is special. He signifies hope after what happened.

nina 04 Jul 2008 8:54 PM

Who the heck is The Green Monkey? I try to follow horse racing as closely as I can but I somehow missed what that is all about. I adored Barbaro and want nothing but the very best for his little brother. And I think that's how most of the bloggers feel. It would be so wonderful if he develops into a super horse, but, if not, we love him anyway!! "My horse" last year was Curlin, who has gone on to do some truly great things, and "my horse" this year was Big Brown.....who I still think is an outstanding racehorse!!! If he and Curlin should actually meet up at the Breeder's Cup, I will be very torn. As a child, I was completely and madly in love with Citation (he was my heart throb!). And 25 years later, with Secretariat. So, I guess I've kept some pretty good company!!!

Betty 04 Jul 2008 10:44 PM

One of the best blogs yet, Iain!  I am fairly new to horseracing, and the only education that I can get on what makes the horseracing industry tick is the bloodhorse website, a couple other websites (second to the bloodhorse, I might add), and books that I purchase.  With that being said, the idea of a blog that can walk us newbies through the everyday life of a respectable trainer and his barn is another important step in our education.  In addition to a full-blown blog (or website) on Michaels barn, I would also like to see the Jacksons put together a website on their horses (I should say "operations" because they do so much more for the industry).  I think that the uneducated public needs to hear more about owners like the Jacksons, who enjoy horseracing for the beauty of it.  They love their horses, and actually give back to the horse, what the horse gives to them.  Yet another checkmark in the column for "reasons why there should be more owners like the Jacksons, and trainers like Michael Matz.”  

Amy 05 Jul 2008 9:09 AM

Thanks so much Iain for the blog.

It was a great piece.

I also enjoy reading posts from the horse people.

Barbaro got me interested in horse racing and I have been following it faithfully since.

If Nicanor never races he will be loved by so many because he is Barbaro's brother, and hopefully for himself as well, same with Lentinor and any others that follow.

I only wish safety and health for Nicanor and know that the Jacksons will see to it that he is taken care of and has a good life no matter what he ends up doing.

I live near Colonial Downs and love to go there for the races.

My granddaughter is only 6 and watching the horses is one of her favorite things. Hope she continues to love it.

J from VA. 05 Jul 2008 3:43 PM

Enjoyed reading this blog, however, I would like to add to this as I know and understand so many folks are looking for "what is Nicanor REALLY" like.  I had the pleasure of spending an entire morning with Nicanor during the Memorial Day weekend.  Yes, he is a normal horse, but not normal as he is BARBARO's brother.  There are high standards for this guy, because he is Barbaro's brother.  Nicanor was very sweet, acting very much like a 16 year old teenager.  I gave him carrot after carrot and he would give me kisses for more.  When I gave him peppermint candies, and then tried to give him another carrot, he literally spit the carrot out made me very aware that he wanted more peppermints!  He now wanted nothing to do with the carrots, only the peppermints!  He is SMART.  He is sweet and he has character.  I met several horses on that day at Fairhill, even Kentucky Oaks winner, Proud Spell.  I met Luke, Tim Wooley's stable pony - what a charm he is.  However, I have to admit, Nicanor exudes personality, like Barbaro did.  He has a unique way of telling you what he wants and his eyes are warm and intelligent, like Barbaro's was.  Sorry, yes, he is just another horse in a barn full of wonderful horses, but Nicanor sticks out - to me anyway.  He has donkey ears, which flop consistently, cute to me though, but there is something about Nicanor.  He is different.  He sticks out.  I had my boyfriend with me and he is 6'4" tall and Nicanor reared up and stomped his feet down, not aggressively, but just enough to show he was not quite understanding this tall person next to him and he wanted to be the "man" around town.  I thought it was impressive.  He was standing his ground, not cowering, but taking his stand.  With me, he was loving and sweet - I guess he likes the women.  I watched him gallop and come onto the track.  He looked confident and secure, at ease with his surroundings.  He is gorgeous.  He is growing into himself still though.  I watched him stand and eat grass with other horses around him, yet, to me, Nicanor stood out.  He is a ham for the camera.  Truly, when he sees a camera or someone taking a picture, he literally poses and almost gives off a sense that he knows you are there to watch him.  He is a magnificent animal.  I hope he performs well on the track, it seems he will.  His first timing was a mere .38 away from Barbaro's first timing.  Regardless of how he does, he is Barbaro's brother and that is special to many of us.  Whether he wins the Kentuck Derby or not, he is special.  I can't even begin to explain what a joy it was to spend time with him.  My boyfriend took one of his shoes to Iraq.  It is providing LUCK for soldiers over.  Yes, Nicanor is normal, but he will be a symbol or much much more to so many....

Deb G. 05 Jul 2008 6:07 PM

tisk.. tisk.. Nicanor (Nick) could be the best horse he could be as long as the trainer keep him sound and safe and like any other horse has a shot to be the triple crown winner. Barbaro his brother was the best at the time, but now Nick has to step to the ring. with all that said and done, Nick will come charging in!! go Nick.  to all players and fans this sport is about handicapping and finding value, remember to follow your mind not your heart just because you like the horse so much..remember the word is value. good luck players and fans just have fun..

playdrace 05 Jul 2008 6:20 PM

Mary -- Yes, the Jacksons still own La Ville Rouge. As far as who will train Lentenor when the time comes, although Matz is a fair guess, I can't answer that question since it is strictly their decision.

For those asking about The Green Monkey, he sold for a world record $16 million as a 2-year-old, but only made three starts and never won a race before being retired.

aduckworth 06 Jul 2008 9:59 AM

Much To Do About Nothing -- Shakespeare

wildwillyz 06 Jul 2008 12:52 PM

Thank you Deb G. for giving us a visual perspective of Nicanor's personality. This is what I've been waiting to hear about.

Amanda, it would be interesting to find out how many of the great thoroughbred horses in fact had full brother's and full sister's. I mean do breeders generally have the same mare and stallion breed over and over again like Dynaformer and La Ville Rouge have?  A lot of people believe that lightning strikes once, but no one has given any data to back this up. I've read where some of the greats don't even have a full brother or sister or maybe they have one full brother or sister. Is there anyway to supply this blog the data. I would root for Nicanor no matter what his win loss ratio was. He is a sweetie.

Kathy 06 Jul 2008 1:51 PM

Kathy - If there is a specific horse you would like to know about, I am happy to give you the information. However, "great" depends on who you ask, and it would take a lot of time to list everyone.

But, to answer your question generally, it isn't unusual to send a mare back to a stallion that worked. Sometimes it works again, sometimes it doesn't.

Here are some examples:

Secretariat had two full sisters, Syrian Sea and The Bride. Syrian Sea was a multiple stakes winner, while The Bride never won a race.

More recently, stakes winner Hasili was bred to Danehill five times. It resulted in 3 grade/group I winners and 2 grade/group II winners. Three of them are champions. (Her foals by Danehill are Dansili, Banks Hill, Intercontinental, Cacique, and Champs Elysees.)

Of course, one of her other foals was by Green Desert, and she is a grade I winner too (Heat Haze).

Anyway you look at it, Hasili is a remarkable broodmare considering from seven foals to race, six are graded winners. The one who hasn't won a stakes yet is Raise the Flag, who is only 3, and this is a family that gets better with age.

Hope this helps.

aduckworth 06 Jul 2008 2:12 PM

Thank you Amanda for this information. I just wanted to let people know that lightning can indeed strike twice or thrice or even five times.

If you could mention something about Seattle Slew and Affirmed, that would be wonderful as well.

Kathy 06 Jul 2008 2:28 PM

Awww, Iain, that was cute!  The Equicizer analogy made me chuckle.

Alysse 06 Jul 2008 2:52 PM

You forgot to mention Smarty Jones' full sister.....

Iain Holmes 06 Jul 2008 3:01 PM

Kathy -

The Blood-Horse actually ran a feature on full siblings of Triple Crown winners last year. It was in the April 28, 2007 issue.

Of the Triple Crown winners, only Sir Barton and Seattle Slew did not have full siblings. But keep in mind Slew's sire, Bold Reasoning, died at age 7 in 1975 due to colic.

Affirmed had a full brother, Silent Fox, who was grade I-placed, as well as a full sister, She Won't Tell, who did win at the track and went on to produce a grade I winner, Senor Pete.

In all, there have been 39 full siblings to the 11 Triple Crown winners.

aduckworth 06 Jul 2008 3:02 PM

Iain is right...Smarty Jones has a full sister named Elusive Moment. She is 3 and has yet to hit the board in six starts.

aduckworth 06 Jul 2008 3:08 PM

Thanks for your help and info Amanda. I wasn't aware of this site last year when the article appeared last year. I will find the article and read up on it.

Kathy 06 Jul 2008 4:03 PM

Deb G. How lucky you were to have met Nicanor.  Your description was exactly what we were looking for.  He sounds happy.  I hope your boyfriend is safe in Iraq.

Barbaro turned many of his fans onto changing the horse race industry.  We have rescued many horses off the track.

MJ 06 Jul 2008 6:05 PM

I am so thrilled to have all the updates on Nicanor it is nice to feel apart of his future.But as far as I am concerned he is already a winner in my eyes no matter what his future brings. I love him no matter what!

Tracy 06 Jul 2008 8:27 PM

I want to thank Deb G. for that great post about what Nic is really like.  That was the best "in-person" look I've seen so far.  Great revelations--that part about him rearing up to show everyone "hey, I'm here--this is my turf" was especially revealing. Priceless! He's on a learning curve as a youngster but already we can see the fire inside and that's a good sign.  I'm glad you were so fortunate to be able to get a good look at him and your insight is wonderful.  I hope we get to hear about Edgar Prado's first visit with him, too.  Thanks again, Deb, and maybe one or more of us will get to do something like that in the near future.

KMustang 07 Jul 2008 10:16 AM

Very, very good article.  You narrowed in on what is really important.  I too love horse!!!

My 4 year old granddaughter still names every horse she has "Barbaro."

Sandra 07 Jul 2008 1:23 PM

DebG'

That was a WONDERFUL post!!  Love that horse and love hearing about how playful and SMART he is.  He will be loved for his personality alone, the beauty and talent are bonuses, and he has loads of both -- it is becoming more and more apparent.  Can't get enough information about Nicanor!

Thank you...

MVH 07 Jul 2008 2:36 PM

With every new revelation about Nicanor, I fall more and more in love.  He IS magnificent in every way possible.  He is gorgeous but his playfu personality reveals his great intelligence and I can hardly wait for the next bit of information..  Anyone else paid a visit to Nic?When will we gat Iain's Part II?

Marigold 07 Jul 2008 2:49 PM

Marigold - Iain's part II should be up by Wednesday.

aduckworth 07 Jul 2008 3:05 PM

Amanda,

Thank you for your promptness and your responsiveness.  Do you have any informaton about the Jackson's and Michael Matz's feelings about Nicanor's progress?  We haven't heard from Peter Brette lately either.  Is he still Nicanor's rider?    

MVH 07 Jul 2008 7:45 PM

You are welcome for the post in regards to Nicanor.  I have been holding back on relaying my visit details, however, I understand that others would very much like to hear and learn about him, I thought I would share.  If you would like to see some pictures of him from that day, you can go to myspace, click on Find People, click in "by Display Name" and type in "Debrarose".  My space will come up I believe the first one, a 99 year old female from North Carolina.  I am not 99 :-)  This is a private area, however, if you try to "Add me as a friend", you can see the page and there is an entire slide show of the FOB visit at Delaware Park from last year for the Barbaro celebration.  I only have maybe one or two pics of Nicanor on there right now from the May visit, but when I have time, I will upload several pics taken from that day.  I guess it is about time I share....Enjoy....

Deb G. 07 Jul 2008 11:24 PM

Deb G - thanks for chiming in. I think you highlighted the experience from a fan very nicely. I do want to mention that I would not compare the Nicanor's and Barbaro's work too closely  - works are not horses running as fast as they can, but more a controlled sprint, with the rider aiming for specific times.

Iain Holmes 08 Jul 2008 12:16 AM

Iain,

I am very well aware of "works", and they do not "run as fast as they can".  Grew up with horses and have 3 racehorses in partnership.  Several people from various sites have asked about Barbaro's first time, thus, I relayed it, and found it interesting the closeness.  It is normal for people to comapare right now.  Although unfair to EXPECT the same history from Nicanor as Barbaro, still interesting to watch his progress and compare to Barbaro.  FYI - I am more than just a "fan", but thank you for responding.  

Deb G. 08 Jul 2008 11:52 AM

The general impression I am getting right now is that Nicanor is developing rapidly.  Am I incorrect in this impression?  What does Peter have to say?  Is he still Nic's rider?

MVH 08 Jul 2008 3:23 PM

Deb-G, I am sorry if you were unhappy being labled a fan. I never saw it as a fan being a lower level of accomplishment - I saw it more as an auxiliary.

When I stopped by Three Chimneys this past Spring to see Smarty Jones - I did so for no other reason than I am a fan.

Iain Holmes 08 Jul 2008 6:16 PM

I would never be unhappy being labeled as a fan as I am a huge fan horseracing and racehorses, and don't like reading about any "lower level of accomplishment".  I merely meant I am involved in the industry and take part owning racehorses via partnerships, thus, more than just a fan.  I am also well aware of what a "work" means and was relaying the comparison between Barbaro and Nicanor as others had asked.  If I wanted to know what a work was, I would have asked, however, thank you for the response.

Deb G. 10 Jul 2008 2:19 PM

I have a question which for some reason is bugging me and it is this:  when a racehorse travels, is he (or she) secured in the van in some fashion and if so how?

MVH 11 Jul 2008 7:53 PM

I would suggest you look at Brook Ledge's website - http://www.brookledge.com/

The horses are secured into stalls, that are wide enough to allow the horses to plant their feet and keep their balance (if they can't you find them on the ground when you arrive). Companies like Brook Ledge have CCTV so the driver can keep an eye to make sure the horses are OK.

The set up is quite fancy and a lot safer than what the majority of horses are transported on.

Iain Holmes 13 Jul 2008 11:12 PM

Thanks again, Iain.  Just wht I hoped to hear.  Watched several smaller horse transp;orts on the highway last weekend and the one before and they did NOT look secure or safe or happy.

MVH 14 Jul 2008 12:57 PM

Thank you for a wonderful article and to all the posts about Nicanor. I am so happy to be in the company of those who loved Barbaro and I am excited that there are  siblings of Barbaro that we can cheer for and love. My 8yr old daughter has also named every stuffed horse she owns Barbaro and when I had to call home from this years KY Derby to tell her the filly Eight Belles had died. Her response, "she is in heaven with Barbaro." I told her that although it was a terrible day for so many people that I bet there was one happy boy named Barbaro that got to met his perfect filly that day. She asked would they have babies? What was I to say but of course and she and I decide they would  be called BarBelles. Feeling such great sorrow for these magnificant animals that have passed it is comforting to look to the future with these up and coming siblings Nicanor and Letenor.

seanna 22 Jul 2008 7:38 PM

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