BloodHorse.com

Search Blood-Horse.com

Nicanor Photos, a Q & A with Sandy Hatfield

A big thank you to Marigold for pointing out the following website. Jim Coarse has put up lots of photos of Nicanor from this summer. Here is the link, and I hope you enjoy: http://www.jimcoarse.com/Nicsum/index.html 

Also, there has been a lot of talk about Nicanor’s sire, Dynaformer. I thought you might enjoy hearing some insight about him from one the people that knows him best.

Sandy Hatfield is the stallion manager at Three Chimneys Farm, and as many of you know, that is where Dynaformer stands at stud. Sandy, who has been at Three Chimneys since January 2000, was kind enough to answer some questions about this tough, but talented stallion.

Q: Dynaformer is known to have a difficult temperament. How do you work with/around that?                                            

A: Every horse is different and so you handle each one accordingly. We always try to be as kind as possible, but you have to use correct discipline when necessary. He is a horse you have to keep your eyes on at all times as he is definitely an opportunist and will take advantage of you if you are not paying attention. You have to be confidant in your abilities to handle a horse like this because he knows if you are not, and he will exploit your weaknesses. On the days that Dynaformer is in a "bad mood" we do what needs to be done with him and then leave him alone. 

Q: He is not one of the stallions that Three Chimneys rides, but is he exercised in a different way?
A: He is turned out in his paddock daily for exercise.

Q: Has he mellowed with age?
A: I don't think he has mellowed much, but I do believe we have learned how to deal with him most confidently.

Q: What does he do in the off season?
A: He is on the same daily routine just without the mares!

Q: He has worked his way up the stallion ranks through the years. What do you think has made him successful?
A: His offspring are very durable, and he crosses well with a wide variety of mares. He has the ability to give you any kind of horse because he is so versatile, and he seems to bring out the best in the mares that visit him.

36 Comments:

Thank you Sandy and thank you Amanda. I had a hunch Dynaformer was one smart ornery stallion. In order to exploit, you need to think quick on your feet. Hope his days are long and happy.

Kathy 08 Oct 2008 1:09 PM

I was wondering since Dynaformer has a rep of being difficult has this carried over to any of his offspring and of course, I am most interested in Nicanor and Lentenor because I did not see it or hear of it in Barbaro but I could be wrong.  No matter what I will always love and miss Barbaro and wish the very best to Nicanor and Lentenor.

Sandy 08 Oct 2008 1:17 PM

It's always nice to hear about the horse behind the name in the stud books. I wish the best for him and all of his caretakers at Three Chimneys.

MRO 08 Oct 2008 1:32 PM

Well...the Arabs must like the cross with this "potent" stallion...they have picked up a "few" with his bloodlines this year...I'm always interested in the mare's lineage he is crossed with.

Mary Wilia, Honolulu 08 Oct 2008 2:00 PM

Thanks for the info on Barbaro's dad.  They say the smart ones are the most difficult ones LOL.

Marilyn 08 Oct 2008 3:40 PM

glad to hear he is doing well. I remember seeing him on a trip to 3 chimmneys a groom was grooming him and he was trying his best to bite the ties that were holding him.

tracy, 08 Oct 2008 5:14 PM

Thanks for the info.  Could we at least find out if Nicanor is ok?

MJ 08 Oct 2008 6:32 PM

Sorry to see Nicanor has vanished off the radar, hope he is getting healthy again and will have a racing career some day.

Karen VA 08 Oct 2008 8:04 PM

Thank you for the info on Dynaformer.  While not quite from the horse's mouth, it was great hearing about Dynaformer from someone who has to always be on guard for the horse's mouth.

Lisa in Colorado 08 Oct 2008 8:33 PM

Thanks for the info on Dynaformer!  He sounds like a handful for sure!

LindaVA 08 Oct 2008 9:45 PM

Thanks for the Q&A on Dynaformer.

What do you mean when you say he is definitely an opportunist and will take advantage of you?  What does he try to do or get away with?

Natalie 08 Oct 2008 10:06 PM

Will Nicanor

Be Racing in the BC Juvenile

Leah P. 08 Oct 2008 11:58 PM

Leah - Since he has yet to make his first start, it seems highly unlikely.

aduckworth 09 Oct 2008 9:21 AM

There are probably two or three scenarios as to why Amanda has not said to much about Nicanor, but I don't believe that any of those scenarios point to something bad.

I think that in a week, maybe less, maybe more, Amanda will have workouts that she will post for Nicanor and  maybe a week after that, we will be notified that Nicanor will have his first race. It is quite evident that Nicanor has been training, even though we haven't got a real good look at his progress since July. I for one will be patient, but it would be nice to get a photo nicanor every couple of weeks or so, just so we can ooh and ahhh his prettiness.

This is all speculation on my part. Man invented the word speculation to make up for the lack of raw data available to him. Nicanor could very well be a super horse in the making, but if he doesn't do well the first time out, there will be people who will dump on him. So I will just wait and be pleasantly surprised when Nicanor does race.

Kathy 09 Oct 2008 10:19 AM

Is there any news on how Nicanor is doing and when he might make his first start?

horse fan 09 Oct 2008 11:16 AM

I believe Barbaro was the same way. I have read that he didn't like women expcept Mrs. Jackson.

SQ 09 Oct 2008 12:07 PM

82-83%% of Dynaformer Foals (of racing age) make it to the track.  However, only 42% ever have a 2 year-old start.  Half of his lifetime progeny never race @ 2 years old.

brettzky99 09 Oct 2008 12:16 PM

Natalie--

Let me put it this way-- on my last visit to Three Chimneys to see another stallion standing there, a lovely gray/roan, Exchange Rate, Dynaformer must have been having one of his "better mood" days, because he was out of his stall being shown to a tour group. He was standing nicely, but that eye told it all-- "turn your back on me and I'll try to bite your arm off." The guide asked the group, prudently, NOT to come any closer, and I dare say no one save the handler and the tour guide was within 15 feet of him.

The only other stallion I have personally seen with an eye like Dynaformer's is the magnificent Seeking the Gold, who stands over in Paris, KY at Claiborne. Cannot speak to Dynaformer, but Seeking the Gold comes by his temperment honestly, being Mr. Prospector-Con Game by Buckpasser. While Buckpasser super laid back, Con Game was a snake with four legs- forget just how many bones and teeth she knocked out-- not her's, rather whoever was trying to hold her lead-line.

Bryce Be Quick 09 Oct 2008 4:56 PM

How nice is it when someone like Sandy takes the time to gives us a heads up on Dynaformer. We sure are a lucky bunch of followers. She is one of very few women to be a Stallion Barn Manager and in a world famous barn like Three Chimneys, it is really special. Good for you Sandy and once again aduckworth, your choice of sources for us is outstanding. Nice of you to keep is going with all this info on the side untill we hear or see news about our boys Nicanor and Lentenor. Its awesome.

Dona 09 Oct 2008 10:06 PM

well he cant exactly race to race follow his brother cause for some reason the laurel futurity isnt being run i think because they had to make a cut or something like that

thomas 09 Oct 2008 10:18 PM

Hey kathy, if you are getting inside information about the schedule for him, this is good news; but as of the Sept 4 and Sept 10 blog entries, Nicanor was reported to be jogging in the hills and getting a rest, not training.  So I speculate if he has returned to training it has been very recently and they will be taking it slow, like no races as a two year-old slow.  I don't think anyone will knock the horse if he doesn't win his first race (Barbaro's second race was the Laurel Futurity by the way, thomas), since we all want him to stay sound and be whatever he is meant to be, not the reincarnation of the late great Barbaro.  Nobody should expect that.  

Karen from VA 10 Oct 2008 2:15 PM

They don't call him "Dynafinger" for nothing ;o)  

SFP 10 Oct 2008 5:03 PM

I know that we heard that La Ville Rouge is in foal again to Dynaformer, and that it is a colt, but have we heard anything else? Do we know her due date? I was really hoping she had a filly. A little sis to Barbaro would be great, but I guess we'll have to settle with what we have.

lyssa 10 Oct 2008 11:38 PM

Has Lentanor been sent to Stephens Thouroghbreds yet? This is about the time Nicanor went there last yr. Fair Hill Farm, has a weekly email newsletter you can register for. I had no idea Larry Jones was retiring until i got mail from Fair Hill. Rick Porter also announced it on Fox Hill Farms website www.rockportharbor.com. Eight Belles dam, Away is in the Keeneland Nov sale, carrying a full sibling to Belles.

mdfanofracing 11 Oct 2008 8:44 AM

Thanks Karen, but alas I am not an insider. I am going by that Philadelphia Daily article that states we might see him in October. From what I've seen on his first workouts that Michael and Peter already have a real good idea how Nicanor will run. But now what do you suppose Michael and Peter are spending so much time jogging Nicanor through the woods so much; to build up muscle. From what I've read Nicanor is very muscular already. No, I surmise it is something different. Anyone that has walked on a trail or ventured off of a trail in a woody area will know that everything there is very uneven. You have to be very careful where you place your feet. What better place for Nicanor to learn to plant his feet securely on the ground, get a really good workout and build up his precious ankle muscles. And isn't it interesting that although Peter says, Nicanor is very immature, Nicanor still managed to finish several workouts prior to his hiatus. No, Michael and Peter are working Nicanor this way for a reason, and it isn't because of Nicanor growth spurt last summer.

Does anyone know if Barbaro was trained this way or not?

As always, thank you Amanda for this blog. It is fun for me to discuss scenarios with very obvious insiders in the race world. And it is very wonderful of them to treat me so kindly and I mean this sincerely.

Kathy 12 Oct 2008 12:50 PM

Lyssa, Bloodhorse reported LVR to be due in late Feb.

Cassidy 12 Oct 2008 8:47 PM

Bryce Be Quick-our stallion was a grandson of Con Game and he could not have been more wonderful, BUT you only got about 5 mins of fawning over him before he gently took your elbow in his mouth and told you to GET OUT!!!  His babies, however, absolutely lovely!

Dreamer's Mom 12 Oct 2008 9:32 PM

I would like know what at leat Michael plans on to do with Nicanor.

Laura 12 Oct 2008 10:06 PM

Nicanor is a gorgeous horse with lots of personality.

MJ 12 Oct 2008 10:14 PM

I just heard Big Brown has been retired due to an injury, just a reminder how fragile our darlings can be. May god bless all with good health and safety. I have an equine heartache.

sandieh 13 Oct 2008 11:32 AM

Thank you for the new pictures of Nicanor.  He is gorgeous!!!  They moved me to tears.  He is such a beautiful horse.  Can't wait to see him run.

Chris 13 Oct 2008 2:24 PM

He is absolutely adorable.  Possibly this is a glimpse of the "immaturity", his playfulness and obvious delight at his bath.  But the final picture, when he is on the track is a horse that has pulled himself together and is focused and all business.  Amanda, is this correct?

MVH 13 Oct 2008 6:00 PM

I just heard Lentenor will be going to Florida this week.  Can you confirm?

Good Luck Lentenor.

MJ 13 Oct 2008 7:49 PM

How big is Nicanor now? He looks really large for a two-year-old, but it is hard to tell. How is his demeanor in training?

Barb 14 Oct 2008 6:00 AM

I believe that if the time is taken to work with him we will again see a spectacular Horse.

myykkyy 14 Oct 2008 9:39 PM

There is a WONDERFUl post on a thread about Nicanor on ABR from LynGilbert about her chance encounter with Nicanor ar FHTC.  It is around #120 of 131.

MVH 17 Oct 2008 3:18 PM

Leave a Comment

All comments are moderated and must be approved before they are posted. The blog author reserves the right to edit or omit any comment.

  (Appears with your comment) (required)
  (Will not be published) (required)
  (required)

Tracking Barbaro's Brothers

Click Here to download BloodHorse.com Widgets!