Man o' War - Classic Video Footage

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Bailey — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:33:27 GMT

I love Man O' War and wish that i could have been there when he raced. I believe that he should go down in history as undefeted because we all know that he could have easly beaten upset if his jockey had gotten him straitened out before the race had started. I have studied sevral horses and i have realized that even the gratest have never even been able to stand on the same ground as him. Though most people will not agree with me i think that even Secratariat dosnt measuer up to Man o' War.

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Russ — Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:18:00 GMT

See my paper at 'Secretariat and Manorwar Revisited'. At 1.25 miles, all things being equal, both in top form, Sec defeats ManoWar by 1, probably two; and at 1.5 miles, Sec defeats ManOWar by 5 to 8. Sec's best competitor would have been Count Fleet, they would have been head to head at 1.5 miles. At stud, check your top 12 sires today; you will find Sec's name in at least three of them; as a broodmare sire, he ranks among the top. As far as horse stride, Sec's stride ranged from 24 to 26.5, possibly to 27. Manowar's body may have been slightly longer, Sec was stocky, not quite as long. The strides of Mano and Sec averaged about 25 feet, more or less. This can be found in Dorothy Ours' work on Mano. Overall, Sec was the bigger horse, stronger and would have been the better at longer distances. Add to that the big heart they found in him giving him an edge in endurance. Yea he lost a few, but was never in top form in any of those races; or the rider ran a terrible race, like his first race as a two. He won on fast surfaces, in the mud, on firm turf and on deep turf. It would be very difficult to find one better when he was in top form. Count Fleet would have been his best competitor, all things being equal, all in top form carrying 126 pounds. I have seen Mano's race against Barton already. I have a collection of classics.

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sail — Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:54:39 GMT

Having lived ten miles from Belmont Park and fifteen from Aqueduct for the last forty five years I've seen all the "greats" race in person. Each one has been Outstanding. Forego carrying the world on his back come charging down the stretch. Secretariat all by himself in the Belmont. Easy Goer as a three year-old being beat by Sunday Silence and Pat Day riding too late twice. Angel Cordero and Jeorge V. Seattle Slew Holy Bull, Ghostzapper and on and on. On the other side of the tracks Nevele Pride and Stanley dancer when I was eight years old at the old (beautiful) Roosvelt Raceway. Niatross and Nialator at other metro area tracks. To say one was the best Is soooo tough. I remember being with a few friends on Affirmed Alydar Belmont day 1978. We pulled a bench up to the rail on the second floor grandstand about twenty yards to the wire with an

unobstructed view of one of the greatest stretch battles ever. to say one was better than the other I can't. THEY ARE ALL GREAT!!!!!!

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Shirley welch — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:51:42 GMT

I LOVE THE VIDEO !!! I AM THE OWNER OF ONE OF MAN O WARS DECENDANTS.... HIS NAME IS NU RIVAL, AND WHEN WATCHING THE VIDEO I CAN SEE THE SAME MOVEMENTS OF MY BEAUTIFUL RETIRED RACEHORSE ! ANOTHER OF NU RIVALS DECENDANTS IS WAR ADMIRAL SON OF MAN O WAR,

NU RIVAL IS NOW ENJOYING THE LIFE OF A PLEASURE HORSE IN COVINGTON PENNSYLVANIA.

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Sceaux — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:12:07 GMT

At age 9 (I am now 65) my parents and I were in Lexington and went to Faraway Farm. On the way we passed the grave of Domino, and when there saw War Admiral, War Relic (who looked like his dad) and MOW's lead pony. And the grave. I wish, somehow, it could have been left there. We then went to Calumet, and of course I loved it, but what happened to Faraway Farm and the original stud barn?

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EM — Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:08:07 GMT

i just finished reading a fictional biography on Man o' War , called " Man o' War " by Walter Farley . He won 20 of the 21 races he ran in! AND, the ONE RACE HE LOST WOULD HAVE BEEN WON BY HIM HAD HE NOT BEEN BOXED IN! ALSO, because he was 16.2 hands high,he took a 29 foot stride. This is also because he had a way of " bounding" as he ran!

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TheOnlyOne — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:00:02 GMT

When I hear the name Big Red, there is only one horse fit to be called that: the original, the one, the only Man o' War.

I hear a lot about Secretariat's Belmont Stakes. Too bad he never reproduced those results! Lost to Onion! Lost to Prove out!! Lost to Angle Light (and Sham)!!! All in the same year!

Man o' War lost once.

Native Dancer lost once.

Secretariat couldn't beat Bold Ruler under 1 3/16ths. Guaranteed!!!!! Or Dr. Fager, for that matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Shamfan49 — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:50:55 GMT

txhorsefan, I find that just sitting in the shadow of the KHP Man O' War statue is refreshing mentally. What a great spot to just sit and think. Glad that no parking meters are installed there.

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ELLEN — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 20:15:31 GMT

Wow. What great footage. An amazing animal, and rightfully deserved the title of Horse of the Century. I've read is biography. A great story. He was the "Mostest Hoss"

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Maggie — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:54:09 GMT

Great footage. Does the Keeneland library or any other entity have more film of Man O' War? It would be great if someone made a modern documentary of him, like the ones of Seabiscuit. Not a Hollywood fictional account, but a good documentary...Maybe Ken Burns? Pass the word! Thanks

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Shamfan49 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:09:59 GMT

On 7/21/2008 at 2:35 PM artgeek33's statement “All you have to do is do a little research to find that around 99% of champions (Horse of the Year) since the 70's have Man O'War in their pedigree.” Well, that sounds like a challenge to me. So using the list printed in Daily Racing Form’s 2007 “The American Racing Manual” which gives all Horses of the Year beginning in 1936 and ending with 2006. Everyone reading this surely knows who the 2007 Winner is. If not, a little research will reveal him unto you. Or better yet, go to Saratoga and watch the horses in the morning. I started with the 1970 Champion Fort Marcy, though a strict reading of artgeek33’s statement implies I should have started with Spectacular Bid, then making use of www. pedigreequery.com’s huge database I discovered the following:

1) Of the 32 Horses of the Year since 1970 (not counting duplicates), 26 (81.3%) descend in at least one pedigree branch from Man O’ War.

2) Of the 26 Horses of the Year since 1980 (not counting duplicates), 23 (88.5%) descend in at least one pedigree branch from Man O’ War.

3) The last Champion to not descend from Man O’ War, that I could find, was Secretariat’s fabulous gray filly, Lady’s Secret, who was the Horse of the Year in 1986.

I think my tally is accurate. If not please advise me of any errors.

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txhorsefan — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:06:53 GMT

Thank you for posting the wonderful video of my first love, Man O War. He died a month before I was born, so I didn't get to know about him until I saw a print of his portrait at a furniture store when I was about ten. It's been true love since then and I always enjoy learning more about Big Red, so those videos are very special. To Shamfan - the first time I was at the KHP and saw the statue, all I could do was bawl like a baby. I was just at the KHP last weekend and with the renovations being done there in preparation for the World Games in 2010, the first thing you are going to see when driving into the parking lot is the statue of Man O War. Well, at least that's the way it looks now, but it's very impressive that way. I love that place!

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starred chestnut — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:56:38 GMT

Whether he is "the mostest hoss" is w/o debate. I will not compare the race record w/Secretariat or any others--read A Legend like Lightning. No other great sired as many classic winners and champions as he did, with a book as limited. He also outlived his competitors, to 30 1/2 years; how is that for a great heart?

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Kay — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 00:51:05 GMT

The One, the Only, Man O'War....there never will be another like him. Thank you, Thank You for these videos, they are priceless!

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artgeek33 — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 18:35:40 GMT

Though all I ever heard growing up was the name Secretariat, Man O'War has always been and always be the dream in my heart. After first reading Walter Farley's Man O'War as a small girl, I fell in love with this magnificent animal and have been chasing him ever since. Though I relish in modern day champions such as Curlin ( I really really love him) and Big Brown, it is impossible for a horse to steal away Man O'War's place in my heart as both the greatest champion and an amazing stud. All you have to do is do a little research to find that around 99% of champions (Horse of the Year) since the 70's have Man O'War in their pedigree. Thank you for these videos. Props to Carly on youtube.com for continually putting up amazing race horse footage (I don't know where you get some of this stuff but your videos have been a favorite of mine for some time).