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Ann in Lexington — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:49:01 GMT

Beg pardon. Mixed up my mares. PotN's dam won a 7f stakes at Churchill; it was Chocolate Candy's dam who won the 2-turn stake at SA. But PotN's dam did win an 8f+ race according to APR.

CC's dam, by the way, was by Seattle Slew out of an Alydar-sired half-sister to Affirmed. Can't get a much better distance ped than that.

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Ann in Lexington — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:34:25 GMT

Mike, what do you base your opinion about PotN's distance limitations? His sire won the Belmont, his damsire won the Santa Anita H, and his dam won a 2-turn stakes at Santa Anita. He is much better bred for the 10f distance than some of the east coast horses, who are by miler sires without any recent 2-turn winners in the family. They have already outrun their pedigrees, while PotN is just coming into a distance where he should excel.

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da3hoss — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:23:08 GMT

Whatever...how can you say that about Dunkirk? He's one of only 2 horses in this Derby with a 2, or any number, in the "Professional" in his DI...which horses in his pedigree were not bred for distance or longevity? Unbridled? Secretariat? AP Indy? Seattle Slew? Alydar? Caro? Weekend Surprise with 31 starts? Secret Status with 19 starts? Luckey Spell with 69 starts?

Probably you mean Unbridled's Song, who at least raced once as a 4 year-old (and won), but seems to pass on leg problems, a lot like Unbridled may have despite his 24 starts...but what about Honest Man, Awesome Ashley, Even the Score, Unbridled Elaine, Classify, One Caroline, Octave and many other Unbridled's Song runners including 4, 5, 6 year olds...who have way more than "one big race"...maybe it's the inbreeding as opposed to one horse in a pedigree that creates a problem.

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steve s — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:21:34 GMT

Desert party will not be in top four.an easy throw out.

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Whatever — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:51:19 GMT

Wonder if POTN is capable of running on real dirt. I've knocked Dunkirk so much because of his sire, but if he makes it (still 2 weeks)then this may be the race of his life before he retires. I don't see him racing through this entire year, he's not bred for that, he's bred for that one great race before retirement.

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the_wiz — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:56:15 GMT

Thanks for the tip nay nay. I've already got those combinations locked up from futures pool 2 and 3 exactas at returns we won't see on Derby Day. Of course I have some other combinations as well. I'm pretty well set except for my tri and super bets. If Quality Road doesn't win I have some high return saver exactas from the same pools at a very minimal price. Let's fast forward to May 2nd and get on with the race.

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Ibeaux — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:36:51 GMT

I just don't see it with Pioneerof the Nile. To me, the horse is still too unprofessional to win the Derby-- look how rank he was in the Santa Anita Derby. In addition, he just isn't fast enough. I see him as a less talented Colonel John.

I'll put I Want Revenge on top, and play GQ and Regal Ransom as longshots as well. Quality Road and Dunkirk will get strong consideration on my tickets as well-- QR's performances speak for themselves, and Dunkirk made an amazing move against the speed bias and the bias favoring the inside horse at 1 & 1/8 at GP. In all likelihood, he needs more seasoning, but you can't ignore him on Pick 3 and Pick 4 tickets. Friesan Fire rounds out the set of win contenders.

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Greg J. — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:28:47 GMT

Mike,

Spot on about "Friesan Fire"...

"Friesan Fire" is my SURE top pick.

The rest depends on post and track conditions(I hope it rains for a week straight, lol)

2."General Quarters"

3."Chocolate Candy"

Enough Said.....

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Mary Lucas — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:46:09 GMT

I like the story behind General Quarters and am rooting for him in the KY Derby!

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draynay — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:41:37 GMT

I will save all of you some time. Place Quality Road on top and place Musket Man, Dunkirk, Desert Party, Mr. Hot Stuff and Chocolate Candy on the bottom of your tickets and call it a day.

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gw_bushwacker — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:31:53 GMT

LMAO @ ColetteMarie,

You wouldn't put your money at such risk as betting on a horse? Instead you buy one and risk it that way? A $2 bet is much easier to lose than buying a horse who costs you thousands b4 he or she hits the track or worse yet never even makes it to racing. Then if they make it to a race and turn out to be a bum on the track you are out everything you put into it and still stuck with the money sucker. I call that high risk. That's a quicker way to lose money than some illegal ponzie scheme.

As for this blog and the question at hand for General Quarters to get some respect as a Derby contender he would have had to learn to run faster and do it on dirt. To this date he's just not fast enough to be taken as a serious threat. On top of that he hasn't beaten any of the better 3 yr olds this year. General Quarters isn't the one who'll be wearing the blanket of roses on May 2nd.

Pioneer Of The Nile just gained some respect when the top jock in the country chose him over Dunkirk. If it were the other way around he may have gone off at 15-1 on derby day. Now he'll be one of the top 5 choices or better.

I certainly won't be betting any money on General Quarters to win, that's not going to happen. As for Pioneer Of The Nile he's not on the top of my list either but may warrant a saver bet.

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amph44 — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:49:24 GMT

Triple crown contender are u kidding me! Jockeys play a huge role in the KD so scrath IWR. Prado will be on Dunkirk aka a huge bonus. Gomez is a good jockey but what is his best finish in the big dance 9th lol! Good luck with POTN he wont even see the board.

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Julie L. — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 23:33:34 GMT

No horse is a bum and to the person who said that Anti-Draynay sounds like Draynay I think you may be right. As for my pick well I have to stay with Pioneerof theNile, I started liking him at 2 and have liked his performances as a 3 year old. Still like I Want Revenge and have been thinking that possible upsets could be General Quarters or Musket Man. I think a few people are not giving Musket Man a fair shot and he may sneak by everyone. That's the joy (or pain) of horse racing.

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rowner — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:31:12 GMT

I saw someone above said that PON was a bum and that was why gomez wasn't riding him. I think I just saw that gomez decided to go with PON over Dunkirk so what do you Say Now!!!!!

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Shimatoree — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:37:46 GMT

POTN is a galloper and in a race like the Kentucky Derby that is a disadvantage. plus he does not have a good name !

FF is a good horse- but has imperfect front legs.

QR is a good horse but can he stay 1 1/4 miles.

Sq Eddie ran a big race and will be a factor.

GQ appears to be horse of destinty and barring bad luck should win