Broodmarathon: Will a Smart Breeding to an Uncelebrated Stallion Help or Hurt Annual Dues?

re: Broodmarathon: Will a Smart Breeding to an Uncelebrated Stallion Help or Hurt Annual Dues?

an ole railbird — Fri, 06 Jul 2012 01:47:19 GMT

she would work for my farm. at $7500 or less.

have a nice day. "an ole railbird"

re: Broodmarathon: Will a Smart Breeding to an Uncelebrated Stallion Help or Hurt Annual Dues?

Aluminaut — Sat, 30 Oct 2010 06:33:00 GMT

I thought the pedigree looked familiar. I almost bought this mare's half sister A J Top by Judge Smells a couple years ago at Barretts.

Sure, I think she's a value to a breed to race owner.

re: Broodmarathon: Will a Smart Breeding to an Uncelebrated Stallion Help or Hurt Annual Dues?

pathfinderknot — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 23:51:28 GMT

Excellent topic of discussion. Absolutely take a gamble with this mare. She should sell in a price range that makes her more attractive for "breeding up". I have a young mare that traces back to Etoile Filante(11 gen) as well, Lavender Twist(2002). Any suggestions to consider in Fla. Stallions.

re: Broodmarathon: Will a Smart Breeding to an Uncelebrated Stallion Help or Hurt Annual Dues?

Pedigree Ann — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 14:40:41 GMT

Professional racehorse family. At least when they don't send dirt-bred offspring overseas to run on turf. Her sire is pure dirt, and the female line goes back to August Belmont importation Chinkara via a 3/4 sister to blue hen and foundation mare Etoile Filante, with dirt-performed sired all the way down the damline.

re: Broodmarathon: Will a Smart Breeding to an Uncelebrated Stallion Help or Hurt Annual Dues?

Lexington — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 16:58:49 GMT

Heck yeah ... I would definitely give it a shot, provided that I liked the mare and stallion's conformation. There are plenty of examples of this situation and they often work well at a bargain price.

re: Broodmarathon: Will a Smart Breeding to an Uncelebrated Stallion Help or Hurt Annual Dues?

Pedigree Shelly — Thu, 28 Oct 2010 01:09:47 GMT

I really like this mare! She's the dam of a stakes winner , She comes from good connections and I like her pedigree. As for her being in foal to a relatively unknown sire is not a minus. Talent Search is a nicely bred proven Graded Stakes placed horse and could have a future if bred to the right mares ! I'd definately stick to the Storm Cat line with this mare !

re: Broodmarathon: Will a Smart Breeding to an Uncelebrated Stallion Help or Hurt Annual Dues?

CHoffman — Wed, 27 Oct 2010 20:57:46 GMT

And any mention of a pedigree here? There are lines that are known for weakness and yet if you look at any pedigree today, including Zenyatta's, there's that weakness. Some horses it's bred in multiple times like Eight Belles, creating a horse bred to break. Time to start breeding for strength again even if it is a "nobody."

re: Broodmarathon: Will a Smart Breeding to an Uncelebrated Stallion Help or Hurt Annual Dues?

mz — Wed, 27 Oct 2010 14:08:56 GMT

Kudos to the Ramseys. Despite their "kittens" taking over the world, they're throw-backs to the old time breeder-racers.

So we'd probably be smart to consider the mare if we never intended to sell the foal. At least the cross seems to have worked before and it would make the owner happy to (probably) at least get into a winner's circle once or twice.

re: Broodmarathon: Will a Smart Breeding to an Uncelebrated Stallion Help or Hurt Annual Dues?

Bellwether — Wed, 27 Oct 2010 06:24:04 GMT

SOUND$ LIKE A DECENT $HOT N THE DARK...ty...

re: Broodmarathon: Will a Smart Breeding to an Uncelebrated Stallion Help or Hurt Annual Dues?

Skyler — Wed, 27 Oct 2010 03:21:21 GMT

I can see the logic of breeding her to Talent Search, but it would, I think, take a breed-to-race buyer to go for this package deal. Especially considering the resulting foal will be from his first crop; there's not even the hope that he'll have made a success of himself before this foal heads to training.

I think Annual Dues would be a nice mare for the breed-to-race owner. But having her in foal to a lesser-known, non-commercial stallion **in this market** will lessen her value.

On the upside, the foal she's carrying could well turn out to be a durable, useful horse that will give the breed-to-race operation a lot of fun at the track.

And really, isn't that the whole point?