Thoroughbred Pedigree Review -- Highland Gypsy

re: Thoroughbred Pedigree Review -- Highland Gypsy

william nemeti — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:31:30 GMT

I was wondering if you could help me I rode Highland Gypsy for Lawerence Jennigs is there a way to get any information on her

Scot's reply: I believe the Highland Gypsy you're looking for was the 1976 Our Native mare, not the filly I wrote about here. Your Highland Gypsy won nine of 37 races (including the 1980 Shrewsbury Handicap) for $151,958 earnings and then became a broodmare; her final foal arrived in 1992. If you're looking to track down information on the mare herself, you might want to contact her breeder, who apparently owned her through at least 1992.

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Whatever — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 19:43:16 GMT

Start researching an isolating the bloodlines which produce the most break downs. In other words, weed out the soft boned bloodlines and get rid of them.. The lines that produce the most runners which broke down, simply need to be eliminated from the gene pool. It can be done, but many big time breeders will probably go bankrupt because of it. However, that is how the breed can be improved by improving the horse's confirmation, bone density and soundness through better breeding practices.. Although I am certain the racing industry isn't interested in improving the breed that way, it makes too much sense-too many big bucks involved, after all, money comes first and the horses come last.

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Pedigree Adviser — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:19:33 GMT

Soto has been flying under the radar, but much like Posse, another Deputy Minister line stallion, he appears to click genetically with a wide variety of mares. His performance so far is impressive given the mediocre book of mares he was bred to in his first year.

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Qatmom — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:51:00 GMT

Everyone analyzes pedigree by looking at individuals near the top of the game. Given the difficulty of such analysis purely using paper methods was time-consuming, but with electronic retrieval has anyone really analyzed the pedigrees of the ***worst*** 2 y os [I specify 2 y os to remove injury from the equation as much as possible.], the beasts who could not win anywhere, the poor slugs who just could not keep up, the crawlers whose winning times barely improved over top pacing horses. Once you extend their pedigrees 5, 6 generations, do they differ in some manner from Grade 1 winners?

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aspradling — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:15:08 GMT

47% is a great number. There should be some good prospects in there...that pedigree is definitely crossed in several places.

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ROBERT — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:15:17 GMT

Lapony has inbreeding that I love. The 3x3 to ALydar and 4x4x5 to Secretariat is nice. If I remember correctly, this type of inbreeding was what Tesio liked. Taking a stallion and breeding him to a mare from the same sire line that his dam was from. She will have to be outcrossed as much as possible but there is plenty of Northern Dancer, Damascus and Seattle Slew blood to use that should work nicely with this mare. To add some stamina, I would cross her with Powerscourt and possibly even some Unbridled blood. All in all a nice mare though.

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TJLuvsTIZs — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:59:57 GMT

I am curious as to how the success of horses relates to the amount of inbreeding and how close to the progeny they are located. I have noticed that the Mr. Prospector/ Mr. Prospector cross 3x3 has enicked at F. I have also noticed that Northern Dancer inbred three times has shown up very successful as long as you are at least 4th generation and back.

Are there patterns of more success to have a horse inbred three times than a horse inbred only twice? Are there certain horses that have shown up terribly on the inbreeding in the fourth generation and back?

Scot's reply: Watch for Alan Porter's article on Hopeful Stakes (gr. I) winner Vineyard Haven (pedigree) on BloodHorse.com within the next couple of days. He specifically touches on the topic of close-up sire line inbreeding, including with Mr. P.