Thoroughbred Breeding Benchmark -- Report of Live Foals

re: Thoroughbred Breeding Benchmark -- Report of Live Foals

Elaine K — Sat, 21 Feb 2009 06:23:00 GMT

Could someone please tell me where

to find out about the Rag # and

what is represents and how it is

calculated. Any explanation or

site I could be directed to.

Scot's reply: The best source of information on Ragozin numbers is the official site: TheSheets.com.

re: Thoroughbred Breeding Benchmark -- Report of Live Foals

Dennis B — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:07:35 GMT

What happened to Outflanker? I also really liked City Place-that is until I saw his percentage of live foals.

re: Thoroughbred Breeding Benchmark -- Report of Live Foals

oldgraymare — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:58:58 GMT

Does this correlate in any way to the number of COVERS???

I'm very old and remember when 50 covers was a lot.

Scot's reply: Nope -- the data in "live foals" means foals reported to The Jockey Club as live births. The "Report of Mares Bred" -- to be released later in the year -- just gives the total number of mares covered at least once. As your comment implies, some mares actually get covered twice, or even three times. I'm not aware of any official record of total number of covers that includes multiple breedings with the same mare.

re: Thoroughbred Breeding Benchmark -- Report of Live Foals

Frank J. — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:29:26 GMT

Ok I've looked at stallions names from N-Z. Point Given's #'s and %'s are pretty low, only 35 foals this year?? And how about Real Quiet?? His foals are pretty much a flip of the coin to live. Same goes for Sarava and Saarland. Doesn't seem like Skip Away is being bred at all. Same goes for Swain. What's up with that?

re: Thoroughbred Breeding Benchmark -- Report of Live Foals

sgillies — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:33:16 GMT

I should've said... These numbers are estimated to be "90%" complete. Not all breeders have reported their live foals, even this late in the year (!!!) and a handful of U.S.-bred foals are covered on the southern hemisphere schedule, and are due in the next few months.

re: Thoroughbred Breeding Benchmark -- Report of Live Foals

Davisondad — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:42:20 GMT

I love to pour over the numbers! Some things jump out at me....First the big one, I guess, Storm Cat producing 64% live foals and being pensioned for lack of furtility??? At 500K a pop, that's a shocker to me!

Some Stallions whose numbers were lower than I would have expected:

Seeking the Gold 50%

Monarchos 55%

Northern Afleet 56%

Cryptoclearance 59%

Cherokee Run 59%

Cat Thief 59%

Catienus 56%

MOnarchos just seems to be too young to be throwing only 55% live foals. You have to ask if we might be seeing the last offspring of these others?

All of us who are reaching middle age have to chear for the likes of Slew City Slew, at 24 is still producing 68% live foals. Not to mention that his fee is great, and his offspring run!

ON the other side, I think Johannesburg is a bit overated to get 195 Mares bred! Songandaprayer 159 Mares Bred???? Sharp Humor 148 for a freshman sire???? Sometimes it is tough to follow what some breeders are thinking!!

Scot's reply: Great observations!

Don't forget with Storm Cat that the 2008 live foals represent his 2007 breeding season... his rate of getting mares in foal during the 2008 breeding season was apparently much lower, as we'll see in next year's report!

re: Thoroughbred Breeding Benchmark -- Report of Live Foals

Frank J. — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:10:00 GMT

Ok I'm no master at this stuff. Please, if I'm way off let me know cuz I don't want to feel like an idiot, haha! I downloaded the report and from what I do know here's what I think just looking at the list from letters A-M. From the sires with 100+ to me I was surprised with Include and Tapit. Alphabet Soup's #'s and %'s also are alarming as they seem to be descending by year. I've never heard of Bay Head King and he's been bred to more mares than horses like Cat Thief and Skip Away? Cat Thief's %'s are alarming as well. Congrats as well as Dance with Ravens #'s are surprising to me. What's with Delaware Township?? Only 18 mares and 9 live foals?? And whatever happened to Event of The Year? Two other horses with huge numbers I didn't expect are Indian Ocean and Lake Austin. Harlan's Holidays %'s are a little alarming also.