Stallion Season Auctions -- Bargains for Thoroughbred Breeders?

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horsetrader — Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:08:11 GMT

Online stallion season auctions is definately the way to go. its a great way to save money and you get to bid what you as a buyer/breeder can pay. i like the way www.thoroughlybred.com operates as they are professional and the buyer/bidder remains anonoymous. I learned about Thoroughlybred.com from the people from the University Of Louisiana Monroe full dispersal sale that they did online through the Thoroughlybred website. The ULM people raved about the success of the sale and the cooperation of Thoroughlybred. If you go to the ULM website they gave the auction website a rave review. After the disperasl sale recently bid on Stallion seasons that were being offered by the TCA Indiana. i called them to find out how to offer a season and they were helpful, and the woman who ran the charity sale said that it was all possible due to Thoroughlybred.com. If you haven't tried thier website, you should as it is really like E Bay for thoroughbreds but they add a Buy Price so that the ad can be just a classified listing if you perfer not to use the auction options.

I also bought a few non charity seasons off that websoite as many stallion owners are offering season there to the highest bidder.

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Joe — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 20:36:50 GMT

The Alabama Thoroughbred Breeders and Racing Association has announced that they will offer 70+ Seasons from about a dozen States on www.thoroughlybred.com

We recently bid on some seasons that were being offered in both the Arkansas Breeders auction and New Vocations/Canter Ohio auction and came to the conclusion that if folks want to auction seasons, they need to do it on Thoroughlybred.com

Silent and Telephone auctions just don't work and the Thoroughlybred website is almost exactly like E Bay so the bidding is live and when you are outbid, you get notified automatically. The website is the future of Stallion Season auctions if you ask me. Most importnatly is when i ran into an issue or had a question, they called me back and walked us through the system. The ATBRA Stallion Season auction will start the 1st of Feb, so check it out!

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Dreamer's Mom — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:54:35 GMT

Berne-Good Luck and have fun! One of our stallions sold in a phone-bidding war a couple of weeks ago-it was a hoot!

I should probably venture out a little, but there are certain pedigrees I am very familiar with and I tend to lean that way. Or run the other way, depending on my experience! Disposition means the world to me, as does a very strong, raced, dam-line. Yep, picky, picky, picky....

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Berne — Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:59:18 GMT

Dreamer's Mom, that's good info to know thank you. Kind of the "Magic Millions" model abroad. I will be watching the Indiana auction, there are some stallions in it that I really like.

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Dreamer's Mom — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:47:56 GMT

Berne-no, they are not considered a state-bred of Indiana if they are foaled outside of Indiana, BUT they would still be eligible for certain races that are tied to the auction, if that is how Indiana does it. MInnesota has two 2yr old races tied to their auction so that is why we put our stallions on theirs. You need to check and see what Indiana offers. It may just be a charitable thing and have no ties at all to a race. Charitable for them and your pocket book!

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catnip lane — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 13:00:00 GMT

In 08 I purchased my first stallion season at auction. I have a nice Seattle Slew mare, full sister to the Graded Stakes mare Life at the Top, and I was interested in breeding her to Bob and John. The Seeking the Gold/Seattle Slew is a proven cross. Pin Oak turned down my mare so I bought the Bob and John season offered at the KEEP auction. I ended up paying slightly more than the advertised fee ($14,000 vs $12,500) plus there was a fee to attend and bid (I think that was $500). The season was offered not with a live foal guarantee, but with a breed back for the next year if the mare didn't produce a live foal. My mare is due to foal in a couple weeks so I'll see what i've gotten for my money fairly soon. Obviously time will tell if it was a smart economic decision.

Just as a side note, I found it entertaining that I received acknowledgements and gifts from Pin Oak for breeding to their stallion - which is a fairly normal practice at some of the larger farms - when they actually turned my mare down. And, a couple months after I nominated my mare and was declined, a friend of mine nominated her Seattle Slew mare that had much less page and her mare was accepted. Neither of us had a prior relationship with the farm and neither of us used a bloodstock agent to make our request. But then, that's a whole other topic :-)

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Dona — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:55:53 GMT

Berne, the foal is "state bred" where he births, and yes, you can get real quality sire lines in auctions.

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Berne — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 03:02:27 GMT

Thanks Dreamer's Mom. If I understand your comment the stallion farm also benefits by selling in charity auctions in other states? Are the foals considered to be bred in the other state? Like, if I did buy Devil His Due like you said to Sandy, and I bought it through the Indiana Auction, would the foal be conaidered an Indiana bred foal?

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Dreamer's Mom — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:22:26 GMT

Berne-yes, lots of good stallions are offered, although you won't find the "top" guys. Most of the people we know use these auctions to have the foals eligible for certain state-bred races. When the stallions sell it then makes the off-spring the stallion owner

has also eligible. O.K., that wasn't the best English ever, but I hope you get the point. Yes, you get good blood-lines, but there are other incentives that make the auctions attractive.

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Dreamer's Mom — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:12:39 GMT

Sandy-Get a Devil His Due if you can. We have a son of Devil's Bag and his babies are an absolute joy to be around! They are late bloomers so didn't race as 2's, but we are really looking forward to seeing them on the track as 3's. Smart and kind and very willing. Can you tell I'm excited?!

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Karen in Indiana — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:08:38 GMT

I'm new to this, too. After looking in the websites that are listed here, this looks like a great way tofind really good prices on wonderful bloodlines. Darby Dan has their new stallions listed, depending on how they do in the future, the prices will never be this low on those guys. And there are stallions listed that will get you into the bloodlines of A.P. Indy, Storm Cat, Unbridled, Wild Again, Dixieland Band, even Seattle Slew. And isn't the bloodlines that count? Peppers Pride's sire is unraced, but he has good bloodlines and look at what she did!

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Berne — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:35:53 GMT

I'm new to this and haven't seen this type of auction before. Are good stallions ever offered for sale?

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Sandy — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:17:14 GMT

I got a breeding to Dynaformer a couple years ago when he was $50000, and paid less than half. The filly sold for a huge profit. I am looking at a Devil His Due breeding this year and if it goes cheap at the Indiana breeder auction maybe I will win it there.

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Adrian — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:48:55 GMT

I buy a season or two a year through tranquility farms charity. They are no guarantee but I get them cheap enough to make it worth trying. The farm does a lot of good work rescuing horses and rehabilitation so It makes me feel good to support them any way I can.

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Dreamer's Mom — Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:56:05 GMT

We put our stallions on two auctions every year-so far, only friends have bought our boys, but it is a good way to get the stallions out there and show them off. Kind of makes you feel bad when one of them doesn't sell and you know how awesome their babies are-in time, the folks that passed will see what they missed!

Kind of makes you wonder about your friends buying on the cheap, though!

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Steve — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:20:54 GMT

Oh, and heres another one with a whole bunch of stallions in lots of states, with bids starting at $100 bucks. http://www.thoroughlybred.com/display.cgi?seller=newvocationscanterauction&categories=2100&search=1

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Steve — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:18:34 GMT

I think the big stud fee auction is the Indiana Thoroughbred Owners and Breeders Association (ITOBA). www.itoba.com/2009%20SSA%20List.htm There are stallions from IN, NY, WV, MI, KY, NC, IL, MA, AL and I might of missed some.