Beyond Perfection Saves Best for Last

re: Beyond Perfection Saves Best for Last

Horse Guy — Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:37:37 GMT

I was involved with purchasing Beyond Our Wildest as a yearling (her second leading earner at the time :) and I can tell you not only was BOW a great physical his half-brother The Griff actually had some talent on the SoCal circuit for trainer Richard Matlow. I think what it all boils down to is L-U-C-K. We all take educated guesses in this game but what makes the difference between ultimate success and failure is plain old fashioned luck!!!

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Pedigree Shelly — Fri, 24 Jul 2009 20:57:46 GMT

Iknow this is kind of off the subject but, I've just aquired my first broodmare ! a 4yr old by Honour and Glory out of a Summer Squall mare . I certainly hope she has better luck than Beyond Perfection ! My filly was retired due to a stifle Injury .She will be ready though for the upcoming season .Any advice for a first time owner ??? :)

re: Beyond Perfection Saves Best for Last

Elaine — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:30:34 GMT

I agree w/ Catnip Lane. This mare has 5 foals of racing age, with 4 winners and 3 of them made over $40,000. Clearly she has some issue carrying foals to term, but she was by no means a lousy producer even before her GSW. If she had the money to continue to care for her, she would definitely be worth continuing on with.

re: Beyond Perfection Saves Best for Last

catnip lane — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:57:45 GMT

am i the only one that thinks a foal that won $200,000 is a significant runner? even tho no black type? I see a sound (ran till 7) winning racehorse in that foal... The mare is a stakes winner, produced at least 1 nice runner, and if she was conformationally attractive - yes i would have continued to breed her. and the point has already been made that we don't know why she was aborting. some of those were MRLS years... and I would avoid Lost Soldier since she didn't like to carry his foals to term. I also like Quack

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Golden Gate — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:14:18 GMT

I've found some mares are more sensitive than others. What we don't know is why the slips happened.

Was she stressed and had a difficult birth.

How was she fed?

Did she become ill then lose the foal?

There are many factors to look at.

re: Beyond Perfection Saves Best for Last

diastu — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:56:39 GMT

Her barrens and slips are Mother Nature's way of trying to tell us something, but she's so often not heard. Most reproductive problems are hereditary (in humans too). As nice a mare as she might be, those nasty little genes are probably lurking in her offspring. I certainly wouldn't have bred this mare 15 times!

re: Beyond Perfection Saves Best for Last

eliz — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:55:42 GMT

Breeding is always a funny thing, sometimes almost a "roll of the dice". If an older mare is sound, and has no medical reason for slips or being barren, why not give her a chance?

Again, looking @ pedigrees, some royal lineage doesn't always produce a champion whereas, "common" lineage can produce an outstanding runner. There are so many examples, they don't need mentioning.

Not only being a licensed groom I also had a chance to participate in birthing a few foals from older mares and their babies turned out just fine.

The cause for concern is when complications set in for no apparent reason and of course the vet needs to be alerted. Under the vet's recommendation, and the older mares health, then no. She needs to be left to pasture or as a babysitter for the youngsters.

This was the case @ our farm. We left all the barrens together and a few on hand to watch the babies.

In summary, it all depends upon the mares health and safety in the breeding shed.

Yes, breeding is a funny thing, it's a gamble, and one does not know what is going to be produced or happens. In the case of Beyond Perfection, it is a miracle to the breed. Way to go!

re: Beyond Perfection Saves Best for Last

Karen — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:40:00 GMT

Bob Baffert bought Beyond Perfection on the advice of Hill ‘n Dale Farm owner John Sikura (where Candy Ride was standing). I'm guessing that Sikura saw in Beyond Perfection a good physical match for Candy Ride.

re: Beyond Perfection Saves Best for Last

da3hoss — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:29:27 GMT

She's a quality mare with reproductive problems, who produces modest winners, finally gets bred (and keeps/foals) to the right click...she's 18 now, MAYBE one or two more back to Candy Ride, to have her last one at 20...Baffert will more than likely do right by her.