Top 6 Sires-of-Sires at Keeneland September

re: Top 6 Sires-of-Sires at Keeneland September

Byerley Turk — Thu, 06 Oct 2011 12:37:05 GMT

AnneM said "French Seventyfive is ancient; if he's still breeding it would be a miracle." Well AnneM, French Seventyfive covered 3 mares for us this year and they are all in foal. We hope to have a colt to continue the Ambiorix line soon.

re: Top 6 Sires-of-Sires at Keeneland September

Byerley Turk — Thu, 06 Oct 2011 12:04:47 GMT

AnneM said "French Seventyfive is ancient; if he's still breeding it would be a miracle. " Well he is breeding and doing very well. He covered 3 mares for us this year and 100% are in foal. We hope to have a son to carry on the sire line soon.

On Herod and Matchem but not Eclipse

The Five-Cross Files — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:52:21 GMT

A bit of research on Thoroughbred sire-line descent becomes a trip down memory lane as I consult the 1982 Stallion Register.

re: Top 6 Sires-of-Sires at Keeneland September

vineyridge — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 04:51:23 GMT

Found another Dandy Lute line sire in Japan named Tosho Fleet.

re: Top 6 Sires-of-Sires at Keeneland September

vineyridge — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 04:45:23 GMT

There is a great grandson of Luthier standing in Japan. His name is Daitaku Yamato. His sire was Diataku Helios. There may be more descendants of Dandy Lute in Japan.

I think I may have found a couple of Luthier descendants in South Africa as well, but haven't had the time to really check them out.

The sire in Texas is Ben's Ridge.

re: Top 6 Sires-of-Sires at Keeneland September

vineyridge — Tue, 15 Sep 2009 19:37:40 GMT

Legal Jousting is entire and is a son of Indian Ridge. There used to be a stallion in Texas named something like Ben Ridge who was also a son of Indian Ridge. French Seventyfive is ancient; if he's still breeding it would be a miracle.

Herod as a sireline is almost gone worldwide unless he is somewhere in one of the other racing countries like India or South Africa or even Japan.

re: Top 6 Sires-of-Sires at Keeneland September

AnneM — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:46:45 GMT

I think that the Herod line is also in danger of dying out in England. Only the sons of Indian Ridge left. I still don't understand why the only Indian Ridge sons imported to the US were geldings - go figure.

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mz — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:42:57 GMT

Thanks for info.

I looked up the pedigrees and Legal Jousting comes down through the horse that broke my heart: Lorenzaccio. First defeat for Nijinsky. Aargh.

French Seventyfive comes down through Ambiorix and Ambiopoise. Don't either of them have any more descendants? Wasn't Ambiorix a leading sire in the 50's or 60's? Or was he just a leading broodmare sire?

It's sad to think that one of the three TB sire lines is dying out. Although you never know, eh? Didn't the breeder who bred The Tetrarch try to save the Herod line at the beginning of the 1900's? I believe it's still doing OK in France, isn't it?

re: Top 6 Sires-of-Sires at Keeneland September

mz — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 19:41:41 GMT

I am not at home and accordingly don't have immediate access to the Stallion Register, so sorry for the question:

Do you know how many Herod line stallions there are currently standing in N. Am? Anybody on the current Sires List?

Scot's reply: Offhand, I know of Legal Jousting (IRE) in Ontario and French Seventyfive in Oklahoma. Maybe somebody reading this can add a name or two?