Eight in the Gate?

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Vale of York — Sat, 10 Apr 2010 03:13:18 GMT

Lazmannick

BOCK as in the way the California Governor would say back. lol

I hope he comes back also. Maybe in time for the Breeders Cup? Who knows.

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LAZMANNICK — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 03:43:46 GMT

Vale of York

BOCK as in bock beer. Actually it would be nice to see this guy come back and bring his jockey with him. LOL

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Vale of York — Thu, 08 Apr 2010 07:40:52 GMT

I'll

BOCK!!!

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LAZMANNICK — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 04:11:45 GMT

papillon

I'm not trying to offend you and you obviously know a lot about horse racing. BTW I enjoy reading what you have to say and getting your slant on things. LOL

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papillon — Tue, 06 Apr 2010 04:42:52 GMT

TripleCrownCoug and Lazmannick,

I doubt you'll see this, but oh well. I take your point about track variations (and never was contesting it, actually), however, I still choose to evaluate horses that have not raced each other the way I do by comparing their times at given distances. It works for me--if not for you, it's all good.

For the record, my point about comparing Secretariat and Thunder Gulch's Belmont times had nothing to do with their respective times and the comparative merits and worth of either horse, (you guys hooked that red herring and wrestled it for all it was worth).

I was simply calling out the poster who said time only counts in prison; in sport won or lost in 5ths of second that is a patently absurd comment.

The fact that both of you felt the need to lecture me on the fact that there was a valid explanation for why Thunder Gulch's slow Belmont time, proves just how much time does matter in horse racing (or else you would not have got your feathers all ruffled and felt the need defend Thunder Gulch's honor in manners flirting with incivility), so I thank you for making my point for me. =D

PS: BTW, I misunderstood your question when you asked about Secretariat and Thunder Gulch racing, probably because I read it too fast and because there is no quote feature here--I assumed you just meant a hypothetical match race, each horse racing as fast as he could, not a time traveling Secretariat. But if it makes you feel better, I'll happily concede that you both likely know more about horse racing than I ever want to know about. I wasn't posting to get into a pissing contest, I was just posting to share my thoughts--mostly because almost every comment I have read here about why Eskendereya is this year's jesushorse is because he "looks" like a monster, which I find unconvincing since he runs like a turtle.

PPS: Just curious, if time really is irrelevant, how would Secretariat's Belmont be viewed historically, everything being exactly as it actually happened, except that the final time winning was 4 minutes, not 2:24? Would it not go from being one of the most sublime moments in history to one of the most absurd--all because of the time?

cheers

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LAZMANNICK — Sat, 03 Apr 2010 15:25:16 GMT

It Aint Easy being good

Just for you lazmannick:

SA Derby: Sidneys Candy

Wood: Eskeyandra he has to win or get 2nd to get in the derby so due to that fact I think this horse will win.

Lazmannick come back on here on sunday and call me the messiah!

It aint easy being good 31 Mar 2010 8:30 PM

Final Picks: Wood: Schoolyard Yard Dreams

SA Derby: Sidney Candy aka the superfreak!

Illinois Derby: Who cares but I will take Turf Melody!

It Aint Easy being good 02 Apr 2010 1:06 PM

Just who are you taking in the WOOD? You're running out of time.

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Mike Relva — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 21:08:26 GMT

TIM G

I agree with you.

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It Aint Easy being good — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 17:06:15 GMT

Quality Road is just eating and enjoying life he is just hanging out in the barn and waiting for the other horses to get some training so he can have a closer race next time. Plus pletcher has 10 horses to train for the derby! loL!

Final Picks: Wood: Schoolyard Yard Dreams

SA Derby: Sidney Candy aka the superfreak!

Illinois Derby: Who cares but I will take Turf Melody!

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Forbidden Apple — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 13:56:13 GMT

No Itsoeasybeingwrong, I am not convinced of anything when it comes to Quality Road. I think you should be asking yourself why this horse has not had a workout since his last race on Feb. 6. And his recent workout was 38 4/5, super. He will have other fast competition in the Met Mile, no easy leads at Gulfstream.

Elusive Quality was a real monster, professional and classy!

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Slew — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:03:31 GMT

Actually, Dr Drinkinbum, they were paying me with Tequila shots, so I really don't remember what they served Setsuko. I think Dublin will make his statement in the Ar Derby, LAL at Santa Anita, and ? in the wood. Backtalk, Dave, and Yawanna Twist in Ill. How's the funny farm?

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Aluminaut — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 05:20:00 GMT

It Ain't Easy--

Should we send those cards to Bloodhorse magazine, or is it ok to drop them off at Keeneland on opening day?

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Matthew W — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 04:35:23 GMT

Sydneys Candy will be lucky to hit the board....

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Matthew W — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 03:52:29 GMT

LOVE the Lookin At Lucky/Noble's Promise duels--the Hol Futurity convinced me that LAL was the real deal--cuz Noble's Promise is the real deal--the trend is set--LAL will beat Noble's most if not evert time cuz he is better! And, yeah, to the Quality Road=Ghostzapper guy--maybe Quality Road is all that at 1 1/4---it's nice to hear the talk--I love to speculate about horses! It's just that sooner or later we need to see it--we need to see if he can stalk a fast pace like Missremembered did in that very strung out field--and win at 1 1/4...or dominate like Rail Trip at 1 1/4 in the Hol Gold Cup--Rail Trip, the forgotten gelding with the good record....or win the Classic, like the unbeatable mare! Beat the best and the = sign you use, with Ghostzapper, another who kicked it hard at 1 1/4---I get that you think that--I think maybe you're right-- but I'll bet against Quality Road winning the Classic/like Ghostzapper...he lost a one turn 1 1/4 race/was crushed in his two turn 1 1/4 race--I get the excuses, but his prep was a track record, I have seen many horses who would have won last year's Travers Stakes--Quality Road, a brilliant horse, not his best at 1 1/4.....

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It aint easy being good — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 01:38:19 GMT

Damn Dray Tim G is calling you out son! lol! Sidneys candys is going to get burnt out you say huh. He is going to crush this overrated field. Laz: I am the messiah!

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Tim G — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 01:05:36 GMT

Thanks but no thanks Dray. Maybe Jason can tout me but you? ROFLMAO

At least one member of your family has some honor. Sending a lady to do a man's job? Stop making these insane bets and promises to do whatever.

As for taking a tout from you??? I've forgotten more about horses than you'll ever know. I KNOW more people in racing who know more about horses than you'll ever know.

Plus, to make one of your bets? All chalk and sell the homestead to bet 95% of the horses running.

Think you made that statement last year about being at Keeneland, the Derby, Saratoga blah blah blah. My bet is you've never been to any of them. Pipe dreams and a little man with big talk?

Hey show up at the Ark Derby a week from Saturday. Know a few people who'd like to have a 'conversation' with you. Tried to tell them it's like talking to a door knob but.... they need a good laugh.

Jason, think I'd sue for defamation since he utters the name of an ACTUAL handicapper (you) in concert with his own name.

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Zookeeper — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 23:30:35 GMT

Dr Drunkinbum,

Well, we're on the same trajectory but on different tracks. I posted the info about Raise the Bridle on Jason's new blog. See you there!

winwinwin,

You are welcome! and best of luck to you also.

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Dr Drunkinbum — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 22:53:33 GMT

Zookeeper

Raise the Bridle was nominated to the Triple Crown for 6k on 3-27. They must have something in mind. Either a Derby Prep or Preakness ?? I wish Setsuko had a shot at a dirt prep.He's a dirt horse. But if somehow he can get the earnings from the SA Derby he will be a force at CD. There are way too many pollywog preps for my liking. It's really a shame. Get the 'ell outta Dodge like Papa Clem did last year and LAL did this year. But it really is a bummer that LAL is back at SA to try to prevent my Setsuko from getting the earnings. They know he would be a force at the OK Corral and are trying to keep him sloshed in the saloon. I think they paid off Slew to keep buying him Molson's.

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winwinwin — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 22:30:10 GMT

Thanks Zookeeper, I will go to the equibase site you sent for me, you are sharp..have a great weekend of Racing, and all the best things for you!!

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draynay — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 21:02:40 GMT

I will be there Tim but the only one wearing a dress will be my beautiful wife ! Tim if you need a winner stop by Jason and I will be happy to help you tomorrow.

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Tim G — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:30:07 GMT

Hmm, I see a pattern here. Dray makes buckshot picks on the Derby, then if one of the 47 picks gets in and wins, he brags. If one of the longshots comes in then they are a fluke or whatever other name he chooses to call them.

Then he makes promises on 'bets' he makes and SUDDENLY can't make it to the event.

Hey Dray, I'll be at Keeneland opening day, I'm sure that Jason will be there and probably a lot of others who frequent this blog. One of us (preferably Jason) could take a picture of you in your pink dress, pink hat and 'I was wrong' sign.

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It Aint Easy being good — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:18:16 GMT

Forbidden Apple you just convinced yourself with QR when you said that Elusive Quality owns the world record. You can run Quality Road on gravel and he dust anyone in north america this is his year he is a monster and no one will beat him.

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Forbidden Apple — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:34:09 GMT

Since when is the SA Derby of any less importance than the Wood or the AR Derby? That is simply a stupid comment, but I understand who it is coming from.

Awesome Act has no shot. Another stupid comment, go figure it is from the same person. With or without a win on saturday, Awesome Act is a serious player on this year's KY Derby trail.

And who cares about a record setting performance at 6 1/2 in the Amsterdam. What does that have to do with the Classic distance of 1 1/4 miles? It was on a lightning fast track, just like the surface at Gulfstream Park. Elusive Quality holds the world record at 1 mile on turf. Quality Road holds a track record at Gulfstream Park, big deal. I would not call beating up on Dry Martini, Mambo Meister, Past The Point, and Delightful Kiss any great accomplishment. Everyone knows that Quarter Crack Road has talent, but he is not the best horse in North America!

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It Aint Easy being good — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:25:10 GMT

Zookeeper I am the chosen one dont question my picks!! just make the bet and shut it and thank me later! I do take thank you cards in the mail.

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Zookeeper — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:43:41 GMT

It ain't easy,

We all need a messiah in here... to save us from YOU. lol!

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It Aint Easy being good — Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:15:45 GMT

Draynay there is still time to get off the Nobles Promise bandwagon that horse is small and has no chance your one year off on that horse it happened last year with mine that bird! When is my boys dublin and Odysseus running next??

Ted from LA & Zookeeper do you want to win money or do you want to go home? The messiah is here!