Will Uncle Mo be Derby Tested?

re: Will Uncle Mo be Derby Tested?

Dave R. — Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:13:37 GMT

The existing graded earnings criteria for the KY Derby needs to be changed. The 2 yr old graded earnings should be still be counted, but to a lesser extent (say only 25-50%) compared to 3 yr old graded earnings. This would force the trainers and owners to actually RUN their Derby hopefuls rather than just train their horses with 2 yr old earnings that are high enough to qualify for the Derby. Not running the horses makes for boring pre-Derby preps, reduces fan interest, and possibly results in unfit horses entering the gate in the KY Derby.

re: Will Uncle Mo be Derby Tested?

JOHN — Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:13:29 GMT

Calvin Bo-Rail will win the Kentucky Derby!!

re: Will Uncle Mo be Derby Tested?

Tom F V — Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:19:32 GMT

That's pretty funny. Have you ever led a horse at all? Fact is have you ever even seen one take a drink of water?

Literal, figuratively or an analogy you are basically unaware of what makes a great horse other than what you 'pick' (because others are telling you they're great), read about or watch the odds on.

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draynay — Thu, 10 Feb 2011 06:05:40 GMT

Tom, I can only lead you to water. I can't make you drink.

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Mike Relva — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 21:11:34 GMT

TOM F V

You nailed it! Some people kill me.

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Tom F V — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 02:02:08 GMT

You're always one to weigh the competition of current horses, that's what you have to do with horses from the past as well. What is/was the level of horses those from the past ran against vs what horses of the present are running against?

Secretariat is held in esteem for exactly what you are discounting. What he did as a three year old. Precocious two year olds often get caught up to in maturity, growth and ability. There are and have been any number of horses who everyone raved about as two year olds and just didn't pan out, remember Favorite Trick.

This is Triple Crown Talk, the comparison right now is way off, if you ask me. Hold them in their own esteem and stead.

Wait until you can actually make the comparison between them, if you ever can because the Triple Crown trail takes a super horse with just the right circumstances and in most cases a lot of luck.

re: Will Uncle Mo be Derby Tested?

Draynay — Tue, 08 Feb 2011 22:20:36 GMT

Well Tom F V so far he has only run as a 2 year old and since there are many that ALSO ran at 2 I can compare them. At 2 Uncle Mo is as good or better than any I have seen. What he does at 3 will take all year to analyze but as a 2 year old Uncle Mo is better in my opinion than Seattle Slew or Secretariat.

re: Will Uncle Mo be Derby Tested?

Tom F V — Tue, 08 Feb 2011 16:12:38 GMT

No Draynay, YOU need to let it go.

The people who make the decisions have made them. People like you who continue to rant against the mare are certainly no friend to racing.

The mare accomplished more in the BC than any other mare/female. What other mare even managed SECOND in a Classic, if you want to continue your ridiculous assertion that winning it on synthetics doesn't count?

Face it your next coming of Secretariat LAST YEAR, finished so badly that a lot of people are questioning it.

Your NEW "better than Secretariat" colt? Wait until he accomplishes something more as a 3 year old.

re: Will Uncle Mo be Derby Tested?

Draynay — Tue, 08 Feb 2011 02:24:36 GMT

She lost Mike. Let it go. She just wasn't good enough. She was a great horse in California. Outside of California... not so great.

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Mike Relva — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 22:20:20 GMT

DRAYNAY

She beat every horse but one. The owner of Blind Luck stated at the awards,in his five decades of racing,he's NEVER seen a mare like Zenyatta. This comes from a cardiac surgeon. Somehow hearing this from someone like him has far greater merit than your tired anti Zenyatta rants!

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Draynay — Sun, 06 Feb 2011 06:48:33 GMT

Funny thing. My win ticket on Quality Road was worth just as much as your win ticket on Zenyatta.

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Mike Relva — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 23:05:16 GMT

DRAYNAY

The only problem is how many times your wrong and try to walk away from it. She lost by a friggen head to 4yr old who was used to that track. Looks like your QR had bigger problems. lol Keep living in your fantasy world by listening to your voodoo way of picking horses!

re: Will Uncle Mo be Derby Tested?

Householder — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 19:15:20 GMT

Yes it appears that Zenyatta had problems getting 1 1/4 as her last 1/8th mile was pretty pedestrian. Did you mean to say Quality Road? We could have told you that BEFORE the race and saved you some money.

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Draynay — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 22:20:49 GMT

It appears Zenyatta had problems getting 1 1/4 on dirt too.

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hughey — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 22:30:15 GMT

uncle mo has no shot and will not get a sniff of derby glory.u heard it here first.

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Mike Relva — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:34:55 GMT

HOUSEHOLDER/JAYJAY

I agree,being saying for a year QR was great,but distance limitations.

Dray lives in his own little fantasy world,he would tell you a twenty five yr old horse could beat Zenyatta. lol

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Mike Relva — Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:42:03 GMT

DRAYNAY

Nobody cares what you think about Zenyatta.

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Footlick — Thu, 27 Jan 2011 05:20:00 GMT

jayjay- Yes we are saying the same thing about Miesque. And what I meant to say is that you don't ever have to put a lid on it. There are a few who should, but you aren't one of them. You are also right in the fact that just because a horse can get 9 furlongs does not mean they will get 10 furlongs. That last furlong has been the undoing of many a horse. It is a fallacy to think that just because a horse can run a strong 9 furlongs means he can get the extra furlong. In top company it doesn't always work out.

re: Will Uncle Mo be Derby Tested?

jayjay — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:37:25 GMT

Footlick : I'm not sure how to read your reply to me. I think we're saying the same thing though, that Miesque ran against much better top rated male turf horses during her time than Goldi did (or doing).

I just recently watched her 88 BC Mile race and that was and impressive race, more impressive is her 87 Mile which she just blew past Shadow Dancer at the top of the stretch and just pulled away.

Draynay : You also said last year how anyone can question QR getting 10F when he's beating horses by a mile running 8.5 and 9F in blazing fast time. Did you watch the BC Classic last year ? LOL

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Householder — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:00:11 GMT

9 consecutive Grade 1 wins. Not races that someone made up for Zenyatta, changing the distances and days they were ran for her benefit. Smiling Tiger won one less grade 1 than Blame and he was a 3 year old! No one seems to be talking about his BC effort. The fact of the matter is Blame lost and lost bad to Haynesfield. Sorry you can't change history. Then he needed to dominate Zenyatta. Why not win by 5-10 lengths. The fact of the matter is he could not put away a 6 year old female "poly specialist." He will be remembered right up there with the horse that ended Cigar's win streak. What was his name?

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Forbidden Apple — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:36:35 GMT

Draynay,

Dakota Phone is nothing but a plastic horse from CA. He got lucky to run the race of his life on B.C. day against a weak field. I can not see him making any noise this year, he's a one hit wonder.

You do need new glasses, Blame was not in a hand ride in the B.c. Classic. Gomez was all out and whipping his horse repeatedly, your view is distorted with hatred towards a 13 time Grade I winner. Zenyatta has more Graded wins than Blame and Quarter Crack Road combined. Zenyatta is the legendary horse that will be immortalized in the Hall of Fame!

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Footlick — Wed, 26 Jan 2011 03:34:32 GMT

Get on topic people. You are just fueling Draynay's obsession with attention.

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Draynay — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:04:26 GMT

Stevebiscuit, what don't you understand? Zenyatta lost ! Blame won in a hand ride home while Zenyatta was whipped again and again. Blame proved ON THE TRACK he was the better horse. And stop with the made up nonsense that she ever passed him. What is wrong with you people? I was THERE AT THE FINISH LINE AND THE TAPE DOESN'T lie either. She didn't pass him 50 yards or 500 yards past the wire. She wasn't good enough. She should have stayed in California beating up on horse we never heard of on synthetic tracks.

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Householder — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:59:07 GMT

Draynay

Most Memorable 2010 Breeder's Cup Moments.

I would have to say Dakota Phone. Hollendorfer sent 3 horses with 1 being scratched. Dakota Phone wins the mile with Blind Luck placing. Does the guy just not put his horses where they can be competitive? D-Phone has been mixing it up in all the big races in CA but coming up short against Rail Trip and the likes. A little cut back in distance and one cashes a $50.00 win ticket.

Householder Nov 12 2010 5:31

re: Will Uncle Mo be Derby Tested?

Footlick — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 15:24:06 GMT

It would be nice if everybody would turn the page ; )