Borel: Derby Free Agent?

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Raven — Sat, 23 Apr 2011 14:43:17 GMT

Master of hounds

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LAZMANNICK — Tue, 05 Apr 2011 03:45:01 GMT

jayjay Good bets.

Soldat to me is a throw out. The rail was dead and the speed bias burned a few of them. Soldat apparently breathed in a lot of dirt. It might have been more interesting if he was outside instead of boxed in all the way.

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Footlick — Tue, 05 Apr 2011 03:19:53 GMT

I remember back in the day that a trainer could not change equipment off of a winning race. Am I wrong? So, if I am not wrong, why was it allowed for Stay Thirsty?

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jayjay — Tue, 05 Apr 2011 01:40:06 GMT

I'll never understand why folks keeps talking about the final times of a race to determine how good a horse is. I've never used it to handicap the next race for the horse. I don't know how anyone can use the run times from a race in Gulfstream and handicap a race in Churchill Downs, not to mention it's a 9F race compared to a 10F race.

I only saw Dialed In made a run on the final turn and passed the tiring horses, sustaining his run to beat a tough speed horse (running in a speed track). DI has now 2 9F races, a good foundation going into the derby. UM will have to be a monster horse to win the Derby off of 1 9F race without being battle tested. Having said that though, I hope that everyone sees it the other way and not bet on Dialed In to win the Derby. I would love to see his odds go higher than 10-1 in the derby, but that's just me being greedy lol. The only thing I'm really worried about Dialed In is that I hope he didn't peak in this race, I hope that was just him running a good race and the best is yet to come.

I'm not too thrilled about Jaycito running in the SA Derby, but hopefully the speed track will help him get fitter. I'm not conceding the SA derby to PrePeg but if he wins it, I wouldn't be surprised. I just want Jaycito to run well. For me, if they're going to lose a race, I'd rather them lose the prep races and peak in the Derby.

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Mike Relva — Tue, 05 Apr 2011 01:18:50 GMT

SLYDER

I enjoy reading your comments. He's hedging his bet already. Did you notice last week he mentioned he hopes Mo "has enough left" for the Belmont. Remember as early as Jan. he was calling Mo a lock for the Triple Crown. lol

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Householder — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 23:42:03 GMT

Plum Pretty will be the nice set-up for Zazu in the Kentucky Oaks.

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slyder — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 22:22:26 GMT

Mike Relva,

I noticed how draynay had no pick in the Fla. Derby since he was so busy trashing Dialed In who was the chalk. No chalk to pick so no clue who to go with. The only thing he was sure of whas Dialed In wouldn't win, LMAO!!

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Mike Relva — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 19:33:03 GMT

LINDA IN TEXAS

Thanks!

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jayjay — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 05:18:09 GMT

Ranagulzion : How did you do in the Florida Derby ? Did you follow my picks ?

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jayjay — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 04:17:44 GMT

Laz : I had the exacta and trifecta, but I really really didn't like Flashpoint and he burned me on my superfecta, I had the superfecta the way I had it posted 3 times (fity cent). I thought when the 8 went on the inside, he was going to fade but it wasn't meant to be...

I'm a bit confused with Soldat, I think the Draynay curse struck again. The way he ran, I think they were trying him to come off the pace but hopefully he's alright. I don't know if I'll play him in the Derby, depends on how the weather plays.

I'm just glad that my horse won. I didn't have the 5 on top at all. Dialed In doubters can't ignore this horse but I knew that his allowance prep was dead on. He should now be fit to contest that 10F and his sustained run, eating up ground should really work well at Churchill. Now I just have to wait and see how Jaycito fairs with PrePeg. I would've preferred him to run in the Wood because it's not a speedtrack like SA.

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SaratogaDreamin — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 02:57:19 GMT

I hope you played Ice Cream Man, Jason....I think a few others did too :)

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GunBow — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 02:11:17 GMT

I think the Florida Derby turned out much weaker than most, including myself, thought it would be going in. Yes, Dialed In got up, but they finished that last eighth in almost 13 and 4, and the final time was a second slower than Awesome Maria yesterday and 4/5ths slower than R Heat Lighting. And the time was comparatively slower than the Skip Away, the race preceding it.

Shackleford surprised by hanging in there so long, but except for Dialed In, no one was really firing behind him. THAS basically ran his FoY(press and fold) race again, Soldat raced mid-pack and folded, and Flashpoint just ran evenly all around the track after bearing outwards coming out of the gate. And Stay Thirst was never a factor.

Dialed In has a shot at Churchill, but my feeling now is that there would have to be an absolute pace meltdown for him to get up. Although he did pass the field around the turn and then wore down Shackleford, there was nothing that final eighth that told me Dialed In is going to prosper with ANOTHER quarter of a mile. In fact, none of the horses in the Florida Derby looked like they wanted anything to do with 10 furlongs. And that is a common motif in preps across the country.

Dialed In did prove he is not simply a late-running one-turn miler. But let's be clear, he wasn't finishing that well in the Florida Derby. Everyone else beside Shackleford stopped, and Shackleford himself was tiring significantly(by the clock). Dialed In got up to Shackleford, but wasn't able to blow by him even though Shackleford was slowing significantly.

I'll give Shackleford some credit for setting a solid pace and turning back THAS, Soldat, etc. However, reports suggest he had the advantage of a speed favoring track. If the track was speed favoring, Dialed In deserves cedit for bucking it, but the early fractions flattered his late run. So, I end up being far from overwhelmed by either performance.

The race deserves a Beyer of only a 90, but I have a feeling it will get a 95.

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thomas — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 01:47:32 GMT

MIKE RELVA

lmao no i didn't i must have forgot. why put blinkers on a horse who has done no wrong i know he was running weird in the gotham but why now? oh well better now then the derby that is if they want to go. i think he might have distance limitations IMO

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Footlick — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 01:37:26 GMT

Only did a tri box at the end on the FL Derby. Worked well luckily. And Amazombie paid better than I thought he would so a little more money there. Thought Safe Trip was going to be a key to another good tri. Wrong. Oh well, that is the game.

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Mike Relva — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 01:36:46 GMT

THOMAS

Didn't you know,Pletcher is the end all,he does no wrong. lmas

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Linda in Texas — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 01:01:25 GMT

Ted from LA had Dialed In also.

I failed to mention your name and i always find your posts so amusing and witty. Notice please, i did not quote you as CV did yesterday.

Hope everyone did well at the windows.

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Linda in Texas — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 00:52:19 GMT

Mike Relva, good call, 30Apr2011.

'THAS OR DIALED IN."

Draynay - "The good news is after the Florida Derby we will not have to talk about Dialed in anymore."

31Mar2011 7:31 PM

Tell me more about that prediction Draynay. I think you have to eat your words! We will have Dialed In to talk about some more!When Dialed In won, i immediately remembered your words.

Dialed In did himself proud, and

Zito and La Penta were pleasantly surprised and totally blown away by

his determination to win. It was a beautiful race, hand it to them they deserved it.

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LAZMANNICK — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:31:19 GMT

2,7 / 2,7,6,5 / 2,7,6,5,1 / 2,7,6,5,1,3

GOOD LUCK ALL !

jayjay 03 Apr 2011 2:17 AM

I know these was your 50 cent super bets, but please tell me you didn't blow the tri.

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Fran Loszynski — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:36:07 GMT

I would have loved to watch Lafitt Pincay and Calvin Borel in a race together. Courage is their middle name. Go ELITE ALEX AND CALVIN BOREL WIN THE ARKANSAS DERBY!

Alot of love from your fans is riding with you both to make it home. God Bless you both.

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Mike Relva — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:26:42 GMT

DRAYNAY

What were you saying about Dialed In? Right.

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thomas — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 22:20:09 GMT

dialed in is your second choice in the derby. stay thirsty lost all hope when pletcher put the blinkers on him

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Mike Relva — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 19:30:27 GMT

THAS OR DIALED IN

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Jason Shandler — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 15:42:44 GMT

Saratoga Dreamin: Good call with Savvy Supreme. You've earned my trust. I will play Ice Cream Man today.

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Footlick — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:55:07 GMT

Great field in the Potrero Grande!

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Footlick — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:21:57 GMT

Didn't get to watch Kentucky UConn,and thought my chances had to come to an end, but 1 point!!!!!!!!! AAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHH! The paper bag syndrom. They had a great run this year though. But 33% shooting is tough