A Derby Turned Upside Down

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Racingfan — Sat, 16 Apr 2011 01:38:41 GMT

Criminal Type: you actually got to MEET Native Dancer!?! How lucky you are!!!!!

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stevebiscuit — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 22:36:07 GMT

"At age 3 there are only two horses that were better than Secretariat at 3 and that was Citation and Rachel Alexandra."

Draynay, I will not insult your limited intelligence by pretending that you believe what you just said.

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Mike Relva — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:16:12 GMT

I give MO an excuse for last race,but he's up against it for the Derby.

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sniper — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 17:24:38 GMT

Hmmmmm about posting tickets

I cash mine in so I don't have them to post.

(Only one who truly knows how I do on a "year" --not one bet--is my bank acct--the people near me and friends couldn't tell if I have $1000 bet or a $0.10 quick pick super---only thing I might mutter watching a race is whispering under my breathe for jock to go outside not for the hole or reverse et. Never thought screaming or boasting necessary--doesn't help a horse run or put money in your pocket)

Derby is fun but upping your wager for on one particular race because it is famous--that's not a way to gamble-- not if you are serious in my mind--again I can be wrong because I am not perfect. I think I have forgotten more than the pompous one has ever learned ---but--8-5 on Big Brown is a few years ago and his still rests his hat there---The only bets I ever really talk about is my $2000 win bet on a $31 horse and $5000 (my biggest bet ever) on on of my own horses that lost-ran second---This story--mainly because of the humor--- Some guy was yelling how the jockey stiffed him next to me when I watched the race (I had $400 bet for the jock)--True story--I showed him my name and that it was my horse and he was an all out go--- and that he just got beat because he was second best --told him I/jock certainly was trying to win--but he like someone else-he knew better- and said the jock pulled him. I shared with 2 others a pick six for $70K (split 3 ways) but consider that sort of a fluke bet although I insisted on including a $22 winner on the ticket.

Uncle Mo is just the latest version of Quality Rd someone said was the Horse of the Century--Wonder who?

Let him (Mo) win and never lose again--we need a superstar-good for racing. Not EGOS.

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Householder — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 17:16:23 GMT

Matthew W. Looks like No Cal based Jeff Bonde has a nice one. Smiling Tiger...could be the next Lost in the Fog.

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40 year santa anita guy — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 17:05:59 GMT

UNCLE MO WILL BE AT LEAST 10-1 ON DERBY DAY , MAYBE LONGER ODDS , HORSES JUST DON'T REBOUND IN THE DERBY , UNCLE MO JUST PROVED HE IS JUST AN INFERIOR HORSE RUNNING AGAINST SUPERIOR HORSES , NOBODY REBOUNDS IN THE DERBY , AND I MEAN NOBODY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mike Relva — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:27:01 GMT

BILLY'S EMPIRE

Thanks.

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Billy's Empire — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:33:53 GMT

Mike, not yet bud. Soon though. There is a lot going on right now with the Spring Sales at Keeneland, Keeneland's meet etc. I will make sure I take pictures...

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Mike Relva — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:14:11 GMT

JEAN IN CHICAGO

I agree regarding Old Friends,I've donated there.

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Mike Relva — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:07:18 GMT

BILLY'S EMPIRE

Question? Have you visited Lanes End yet?

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Antman — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:59:03 GMT

Paula,

Thanks for the Article on Old Friends, I did my part hope more follow. If everyone loves horses it is an easy donation. We need to worry about what happens after racing. I have read a lot from some people with big hearts on here and many blogs. Horse Racing fans are much more than just gamblers. I honestly believe that. The bank should eat that mistake.

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Billy's Empire — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:42:01 GMT

Jayjay, my handle is in reference to one of my favorite horse's, Empire Maker. But thanks for thinking about me. I can tell you care...

So, I wonder what effect the GI Infection had on Mo? Was he dehydrated b/c he had the runs. Was he clogged up like he ate too much cheese? I wonder if it was an upper of lower GI tract infection. Maybe he just had heart burn from reading all of this negative garbage on his blogs?

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Hirize — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:35:47 GMT

The Factor is another MO SMO clone! You could not push either a 1 1/4 with Ford F150. How dare Mike Battaglia make him premliminary favorite over Dialed In for the Derby. There is only one horse that fits this years Derby and that is Dialed In. He has the trainer, the breeding, the style and he is proven. These othe bums won't know what hit em when he swoops by. The only unknown is the possible sloppy track like previous years but I don't think that will matter either.

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gw_bushwacker — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 12:49:48 GMT

Uncle Mo's intestinal infection is more proof why nobody should pay any attention to anything draynay ever says. There is absolutely no such thing as a "lock" to win any race. For the record Ruffian was a better 2 yr old than Mo and would have blown his socks off.

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Matthew W — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:21:36 GMT

Gonna be a high Beyer # for Smiling Tiger--at any rate, it LOOKED special--race had the look of a great horse, speed it up and you'll really see that move...it's true, speed the replays up to really see a horse's move--Smiling Tiger packs a wallop, to say the least--if they go for the Met Mile--lookout, they just may get the distance, the way Rosario has changed his style to a one run type, maybe he is a miler.....

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Matthew W — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 08:12:51 GMT

Joes Blazing Aaron is one nice colt--I, too, think he'll love Keeneland--I, too, think this will be Gomez's Derby horse....love a horse that will move into the pace early--then have tons left for the closers--he should like Keeneland better than grass, since it's easier to win that way on anything but turf--what I'm trying to say is: a horse that can run like that on grass--should, if he takes to it, run even better on synthetics.....

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Matthew W — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 07:58:32 GMT

Uncle Mo on BCup day ran well enough to finish third in the Classic--he towers above this crop--still, the Secretrariat inferrence--while Uncle Mo was exceptional in the Breeders Cup, Secretariat probably could've WON the Classic as a TWO year old--for real--that is what was thought of him, I was there (out here/Los Al) but everybody talked about Secretariat--nothing like Uncle Mo, who had/HAS huge distance questions--good? sure he is--very good--a ten furlong animal? We shall see--I will include him cuz he is the best animal--it's not close--but there are questions, and others are inticing me.....Secretariat's Wood was a tougher field--thus, far less shocking than was Uncle Mo's loss--that was a race vs virtually nothing--and he was beaten by two--no way do I believe that--it's a toss--I tossed Secretariat's losses for the same reasons--he was simply best--Uncle Mo was simply best--the loss is a toss....he's on my small list, along with Jaycito/Midnight Interlude--think this is a very weak batch--one of the weakest I can remember--the best race this weekend is the Charles Town Classic--very tough race! I have landed on three: Tackleberry (4-1)...Acclamation (10-1)....Inherit The Gold (8-1)...Tackleberry is 2 for 2 at the 1 1/8 distance, and 1 1/8 is a "specialty distance)---also he is red-hot, and has been working like a champ--inside post helps....Acclamation, a Cal bred, ran huge in his comeback, at 39-1, Gr I, was there right up to the last few jumps---has worked five times/total of thirty furlongs, or 6 fur avg...is dead-fit, comeback answered the question, if he still retains that GrI class--he does, draws inside, too--he's in, at a huge price, also Unusual Heat deserves to be on the world stage, as one of the premier sires on the planet--for moving up his mares like he does--for siring good horses--Acclamation is a contender to get all of the $$ Sat....Inherit The Gold, N Y bred, has passed the class test, now gets a distance he loves--should be right there/think he's the horse to beat.....all in all a really tough race/really nice race....

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Matthew W — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 06:57:25 GMT

My $48 place pick all only garnered me 4 for 8--tough day---not as tough as the guy at Gulfstream--only one live ticket to 1.3 million pick six--and it's 12-1...leading by ten at head of stretch--still up by eight at the 1/8 pole--loses by one inch (if that much...)...that's a tough day---thought Smiling Tiger looked like something special today--think Switch will have her hooves full of Harve De Grace--also love the 'Margarita winner, Miss Match, who was at a disadvantage when she beat Switch that day--like harve/Miss Match for exacta/will also put a little bit of win $$ on Miss Match....ya think the racing world is hoping for The Factor to win big Sat? YA THINK?! After all of the upsets of late, and the injuries, think maybe The Factor will be tough to catch again--who's gonna go out with him? Nobody, that's who!...And in the Derby--Baffert won't care, he's got two other colts who'll love him to set fast fractions...at any rate, I'll play a few thoroughbred races this weekend--but I'll stay close to Los Al, and my quarter horses, they're starting to race the two year olds, time for me to kick butt out there! haha, thanks to the quarter horses, where my system's working/and I'm not! haha, my favorite Bukowski quote!

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GunBow — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 04:52:47 GMT

Jason:

I'm not going to defend the SA Derby, it was what it was.

But the track last Saturday, and really for the last 10 days or so, was much slower. I would say the track last Sat was 3-4 lengths slower than it had played for alot of the meet, and this is reflected in the fact the SA Derby received a 95 Beyer, when the Bob Lewis, with the same time, got a 90 or 91. The SA Derby Beyer was also higher than the Beyer for the Wood, Florida Derby, Illinois Derby, and Louisiana Derby. Although they were all pretty bad, historically speaking.

And to think, it only took the track crew at Santa Anita 4/5ths of the meet to get a surface that didn't produce a track record every week or produce only wire to wire winners.

I feel sorry for the horses, trainers, and jockeys that had to go from Pro-Ride to a Turf Paradisesque dirt surface.

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SophieK — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 03:36:33 GMT

Yesterday UM was 100% sound, today its a GI infection, tomorrow?

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Paula Higgins — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 03:14:49 GMT

Everyone, Old Friends needs our help. They are in financial trouble due to a banking error made by the bank. See the article on the Bloodhorse home page on the right. If you all sent something, if your financial situation allows, we could make a difference. It'd for the horses.

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Racingfan — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 02:18:30 GMT

Why do you all still bother to read Draynay's posts? For over a year now I have been checking the posters name before reading the comment so I can ignore his stuff. LOL

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jayjay — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 02:16:10 GMT

Draynay : Posting here and saying you won is not "showing" me...that's just like Billy saying he owns an empire.

Footlick : Being 100% depends on ones definition of it, that's the only thing I'm worried about with UM's situation. My "100%" is most likely different than Todds and his is probably different from MikeR.

Also, the 2 workouts prior to the Derby concerns me too. Todd and MikeR's confidence on this horse is starting to get to me, they really believe he is a superhorse. Their confidence in him might just be enough to make me bet him in the Derby....nah, I'll let UM beat me :)

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jayjay — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 00:33:13 GMT

Might happen to you...

nbcsports.msnbc.com/.../sports-horse_racing

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Jean in Chicago — Fri, 15 Apr 2011 00:22:09 GMT

Mike Relva & JAJ:

Please stop bickering and agree that Old Friends is worthy of everybody's support (see article in News). Especially since the bank admits its their fault and Michael and the horses will be the ones suffering the consequences.