Five Derby Longshots to Consider

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KY VET — Sun, 08 May 2011 00:51:32 GMT

APPLE! NOBODY LOST ON MO!!!! I BET 100W60P ON MMM......THOUGHT HE RAN GOOD...80W SAVER ON MOH....THOUGHT HE RAN GOOD......WHAT A TOUGH DERBY.! SO I HAVE YOU DOWN FOR HATING UNCLE MO....WE WILL SEE LATER IF YOU ARE RIGHT....OK?

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Forbidden Apple — Sat, 07 May 2011 03:04:47 GMT

tcc,

I disagree, Sway Away is lightly raced and has plenty of room to improve. Uncle Mo was a scratch for me when he went 1:13 3/5 in the Timely Writer. Team Pletcher always gets their horses to work out well, but they are not trained for the long haul.

Ranagulzion,

What, no Aunt Mo in your top slot for the KY Derby? What happened? According to you and Draynay, Mo was a lock for a triple crown sweep. That kind of early hype has blown up in your face 2 years in a row. Pletcher is not the best trainer in North America, that is a cold fact. He might make my top 15 list.

KY Vet,

After your recent loud mouth comments, I think you owe everyone on these blogs an apology. Mo ran a 1:13 3/5 6f split in the Timely Writer and then a no punch 3rd in the Wood. You are the one person with zero common sense and your handicapping skills are useless. I am guessing that you are not a vet or from KY.

Lazmannick,

Derby Kitten was an instant scratch for me. I like that Master of Hounds can get the 1 1/4 mile distance, but he seems strictly turf meant to me. Coldfacts has clearly stated all season that he dislikes Dialed In and Soldat. They seem like far better choices than a couple of grass huggers.

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KY VET — Sat, 07 May 2011 02:48:41 GMT

3 YRS AGO COLDFACTS RIPS PEOPLE THAT LIKED DUBAI HORSE..THEY NEVER WIN, OR RUN ON DIRT HE SAID...THEN SOMEONE LIKED HORSE THAT DIDNT MAKE START AT 2...THEY NEVER HAVE WON....DONT BET POLYTRACK HORSES...BLAH BLAH..TRIED TO SAY A 12500 SIRE WAS BETTER THAN A 250,000 SIRE......NOW HE LIKES A DUBAI HORSE, A HORSE THAT DIDNT RUN AT 2...AND A HORSE THAT GOT CLEAR LEAD,COMES HOME IN 14..AND SAYS HOW GAME HE WAS....AND! TRIES TO SAY THE HORSE 18 BACK THAT CLOSES FOR THE WIN, ISN'T GOOD BECAUSE HE CANT CLOSE.......IS IT ME? NO REALLY? DOES HE GO ON FACTS? IVE READ THESE WACKY THINGS FOR 3 YEARS! THE GUY HAS NEVER PICKED A RACE RIGHT! IM NOT BEING MEAN....REALLY....PICKING A HORSE ON BREEDING? INSANE!!!NONE OF THESE RULES MATTER! BET THE INDIVIDUAL HORSE!!! USELESS FACTS!!

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KY VET — Sat, 07 May 2011 02:35:10 GMT

JAYJAY.......IF COLDFACTS AND AFFLEET ALEX WOULD BE HONEST, THEY WOULD TELL YOU HOW GOOD I AM...BUT THEY WON'T...THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO PICK A WINNER....IV'E WON OVER 10 GRAND IN THE LAST 5 YEARS ON DERBYS...(5000 WON ON 500 DOLLAR FUTURE BET ON STREET SENSE)....I MAKE A LIVING OFF BETTING...YES I WAS WRONG THAT MO WOULD RUN(THOUGHT IT WAS GI INFECTION) DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS MORE..THATS NOT A BET....I AM THRILLED HE SCRATCHED!..NOW I CAN BET THE HORSE I LIKE....DIALED IN.!!! 300WIN 200P.....IM GOING FOR THE BIG UPSET IN 7TH RACE..AMEN HALLELUJAH TO BEAT THE BIG CHALK....I'M DUE TO LOSE.....WE WILL SEE...I'M GETTING 4 TO 1 ON HORSE THAT SHOULD BE LESS THAN 2.....

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Ranagulzion — Sat, 07 May 2011 01:23:28 GMT

Coldfacts,

If your Oaks selection had finished in front of Plum Pretty (my selection) I might have been compelled to take your advise for the Derby. As things are turning out, the Master Of Hounds will be outfoxed in the Derby.

Just dial in when you realise that you are lost. I'll answer the call my friend.

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JayJay — Sat, 07 May 2011 00:57:54 GMT

Something smells fishy here, I'm starting to think KY VET is Draynay lol. Is he ?

KY VET : What do you think ? Time to hang up that "I know more than you Jacket" somewhere and accept the fact that no one, not even a kentucky vet know horse racing more than anyone (except Draynay of course, a newbie fan probably can pick better than him LOL.)

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LAZMANNICK — Fri, 06 May 2011 23:47:08 GMT

Coldfacts

Oh I'm sorry. I thought it was about long shots that actually had a chance to win. Make Music for Me has won a sinhgle optional claimer since last year's Derby and that on the turf. Paddy had a dream finish in the Derby, but is not a dirt horse either. In fact, I don't think that either has ever won a race on dirt. Oh well, my appologies.

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Kristen — Fri, 06 May 2011 23:41:37 GMT

Here's why I don't bet but follow horse racing religiously. I'm the HUGE Secretariat fan whose house is adorned with all Secretariat stuff. So I only want horse's with his bloodlines in them. So I would be happy with any of the following: Stay Thirsty (Bernardini), Decisive Moment (his sire by Storm Cat), Pants on Fire(Jump Start), Dialed In (Mineshaft) Santiva(Giant's Causeway) Shackleford (Forestry) Nehro,(I think Mineshaft??). My first pick though would be Stay Thirsty or Shackleford. Most important safe trip for all.

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KY VET — Fri, 06 May 2011 22:37:44 GMT

THANK YOU COLDFACTS!! YOU HATE DIALED IN!!! YES!!! 300WIN 200 PLACE.........YOU ARE SOOOOOO SMART!!!!! ARAZI MOVE ON THE TURN.....GET READY!!!!

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Householder — Fri, 06 May 2011 22:26:01 GMT

Nice 2/3rds of the OAKS Zen's Auntie. You thought Plum Pretty looked awful "pretty." And the "professionals" just dismissed her last Beyer. You always have to wonder what Baffert's up to. She's been chasing NOW what appears to be the 2 best 3 year old fillies in training.

I had Plum Pretty, Zazu, Daisy Devine wheel.

Blind Luck going to her knees...heart attack # 1. Closing stretch drive and finish...heart attack #2.

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KY VET — Fri, 06 May 2011 21:10:58 GMT

THANK YOU TODD P!!!! I WAS WRONG ABOUT THEM RUNNING MO! BUT IT'S LIKE CHRISTMAS MORNING.!!! NOW I CAN HAMMER THIS DERBY!!! IF MO RAN I COULDN'T BET AGAINST HIM.....NOW, I CAN BET WITH BOTH HANDS ON THE HORSE I LIKE.....THERE IS ONLY 1 HORSE I THINK MIGHT RUN AN IMPROVED RACE...MUCHO MACHO MAN...HE SCARES ME.....I HAVE 3 HORSES THAT I POSTED...8TH RACE FRIDAY#2 HAD 200WP..BAD RIDE! CAN'T BELIEVE MY HORSE HAD LEAD!!! I'M SO MAD! 2ND PAID 6.00 SO I'M UP +200...NEXT ZAZU 200WP....THEN SAT RACE 7 AMEN H....THEN THE DERBY!!! I'LLL GIVE YOU THAT LATER....!!! I LOVE THIS GAME!!

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Mike Relva — Fri, 06 May 2011 18:00:14 GMT

KY VET

Now,what were you saying about Mo would run? RIGHT.

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Mike Relva — Fri, 06 May 2011 17:58:11 GMT

NO_ MO_ MO

If you are done patting yourself on the back and doing cartwheels,just remember I said the SAME as you did months ago,also.

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Householder — Fri, 06 May 2011 17:17:13 GMT

KY VET. I can see the future too! Paticularly after I take my cat's urinary track infection medicine from the local clinic. If I up the dose I can actually travel to other countries without ever leaving my living room. My body has been to Churchill several times this week, slept in the same stall with the eventual winner, and I have the Superfecta cold ($2.00).

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Householder — Fri, 06 May 2011 17:09:49 GMT

KY Vet of should I say "Mr. Common Sense." Now you can tell us what type of future book bet you had on Uncle Mo.

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Householder — Fri, 06 May 2011 17:07:11 GMT

I think Todd Pletcher's face says it all. R Heat Lightning, Devel May Care, Uncle Mo.

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Coldfacts — Fri, 06 May 2011 16:52:50 GMT

“Dialed In only has to run a 1:37 mile fraction to inhale the field in the final sixteenth of the long Churchill downs home stretch to win with a final time of 2:01 and change.”

Big Brown final prep FL Derby 1:48.16

Derby wining time 2:01.82

Barbaro final prep FL Derby 1:49.01

Derby wining time 2:01.36

Funny Cide 2nd final prep Wood 1:48.60

Derby wining time 2:01.19

War Emblem final prep IL Derby 1:49.42

Derby wining time 2:01.13

Fusaichi Pegasus final prep Wood 1:47.80

Derby wining time 2:01.12

DIALED IN final prep FL Derby 1:50.01

Derby winning time pending???

Are you serious about 2:01 and change. He cannot record that time if nuclear fuel is added to his laxis. Every horse dialed beaten was either one pace or backing up with the exception of Shackleford who was resolute. The mid pack runners win contain some formidable colts who can move just as Dialed In starts to roll. The ground he covers to get to them will be negated when they make their moves. He now faces closers like Nehro, AAA, Brilliant Speed Midnight Interlude and Derby Kitten. With his lumbering action he will not out close all those horses. Do not waste your money. Go to the dog pound and take the Master Of Hounds.

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Householder — Fri, 06 May 2011 16:26:31 GMT

Za...Za...Zazu! No once closes the last 3/8ths like her (sub 30) and on speed favoring Santa Anita to boot. Her last pair of Beyers towers over this motley crew. With R Heat hurt, Turbulent Descent takes over as the best 3 year old filly in the nation and she owns a win over that one. This isn't turf, so Kathmanblu 86 Beyer by 8 lengths on dirt at Churchill still is not good enough. And Joyfull Victory...should be beating Holly Heavens by 8 as that one has not cracked an 80 Beyer yet. The interesting one for me underneath is Daisy Devine. Her Beyers seem to fit, she has a good record, and she had two bullet works over the course. Don't know much about the Fairgrounds though. If Sadler can pull this off after a planned 9 week vacation he is a genius.

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Coldfacts — Fri, 06 May 2011 16:21:07 GMT

LAZMANNICK,

The blog is about long shots. In the 2010 derby the third place finisher Paddy O Prado was second in the Blue Grass and his best performances have been on turf. The fourth place finished Make Music For Me had his final prep on turf. Barbaro’s best performance was on turf. Your remark suggests you have obviously ignored these cold facts. The horses were suggested as replacement for the colts I did like in Forbidden Apple’s top five. In race considered open there is no place for cynicism. I saw similar comments when I suggest the usage of the 68-1 Shackleford in the FL Derby. It’s a horse race and anything can happen. You should know that!

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thomas — Fri, 06 May 2011 16:17:49 GMT

just realized nehro's dosage index is 4.33 now i know he wont win even wit uncle mo scratched

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Coldfacts — Fri, 06 May 2011 16:03:02 GMT

2:24,

THESE ARE HORSES TO INCLUDE IN BOX WAGERS. THE BLOG IS ABOUT LONGSHOTS.

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calico cat — Fri, 06 May 2011 16:00:38 GMT

Glad to see Uncle Mo scratched out of the Derby. Hope they get him right before he runs again. I like him too much to see him falter again like he did in the Wood. Wouldn't it be something if Stay Thirsty won the Derby? Mike Repole would be beyond over the moon!!! Don't say it can't happen, the way this race looks right now, anything is possible. The racing gods have proven themselves very capable of producing astonishing results. I'm adding him to my over-bloated list of possibles just in case they're in a quirky mood again. :)

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Mike Relva — Fri, 06 May 2011 15:18:50 GMT

DRAYNAY

Wonder if this will be a lesson(doubt it) for you,w/ Mo out? Point is you hyped and bragged as early as Jan. that he would win the triple. So,next year are you going to do the same crap? Probably.

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Slew — Fri, 06 May 2011 15:18:17 GMT

I was wrong!

With Mo out, the outside horses are moving in, which keeps Archie in Gate 1, but now puts Nehro in Gate 18.

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Zen's Auntie — Fri, 06 May 2011 15:11:50 GMT

Yeah KYvet you got the LOCK on Common sense Boy Howdy...

I TOLD you on May 1st that they should scratch Mo already and I meant it in the best interest of the horse -

Honestly and it surprises me to say this,

PROPS to Todd Pletcher, for doing the RIGHT thing here. Who says people Dont learn from their errors? I say Todd Pletcher has never looked so much like the reigning TOTY as he does today. Of course its easier to take when Mike has another legitimate contender that is peaking right now.

Good luck and safe trips to all the horses and riders.

PS - I like the Tapit "sisters" in the Oaks exacta with Plum Pretty in the tri.