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draynays better half — Wed, 25 May 2011 20:55:09 GMT

There goes draynay flip-flopping again. How many times has he wailed on and on that if a horse hasn't won at Saratoga, Belmont, or Gulfstream Park they weren't worth mentioning. Last time I looked Goldikova hasn't won at any of those tracks. 2 of her biggest wins came in California.

Don't get me wrong, I love the horse. I'm just sick and tired of draynay saying one thing one day then when it suits his fancy pretending he never said it. It's amazing how often he changes his tune and can still be wrong as far as picking winners goes.

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JayJay — Wed, 25 May 2011 09:00:20 GMT

Draynay : What do you think your HOTY Quality Road's chances against Goldikova in a mile match race? And yes, I'm talking about on dirt.

KY VET : Two losing months in 3 years ?!?!?!!! Wow, that's PHENOMENAL...quick question though...why are you still renting ?? I'm thinking if 3 years ago, you put a $2 win bet and keep parlaying it for the next 3 years on your winning bets, wouldn't that be enough to buy a house ? Don't tell us you lost ALL of your winnings in the past 3 years on the Derby and Preakness, that would just be INSANE! Just wondering...but hey, good job!

LIT : You like M&M&Ms? :) I think he's sitting on his big race. I'm not worried about Draynay jumping on his wagon, he's got Nehro all guaranteed to win the Belmont by a mile. I bet you he will claim Nehro as the 2nd coming of Secretariat days from now...kind of like that "rapture" dude.

Dr. D : I had DI in the Florida Derby but I was (bleeping) my pants the whole stretch because this unknown horse wasn't stopping at all. I thought this horse got lucky on the front end in that race. His run in the Derby made me think he's a legit frontrunner and can cook anyone who goes with him. I was very glad to see FP enter the Preakness because I know that would take money away from him but I was dead set on him because of the shorter distance and shorter stretch run. Let's see how he looks on gameday!

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Stevebiscuit — Wed, 25 May 2011 03:53:42 GMT

Draynay/KY Vet will say or do anything for attention. lol

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Mike Relva — Wed, 25 May 2011 01:30:32 GMT

LONGWAYTOMAY

I agree.

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longwaytomay — Wed, 25 May 2011 00:39:49 GMT

KY VET,

WHY DON'T YOU TAKE SOME OF THAT MONEY YOU WIN AND GET SOME LESSONG ON HOW TO TYPE WITHOUT USING CAPS. I'M SERIOUS, IT'S ANNOYING AS HELL.

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Dr Drunkinbum — Tue, 24 May 2011 22:55:59 GMT

jayjay

That was my exact thought-I didn't think he could get the 12f, and then I thought-"DaTara did it so you never know." I don't know if it's 50-50 still for Shackleford in The Belmont but he'd have to bounce back from the Preakness quick and be looking really good for me to run him. I'm a little concerned about him hooking up in a speed duel and frying himself. Game horses you have to be careful with sometimes. I'll probably be looking elsewhere but if Shackleford looks like DaTara did physically and there isn't too much speed in there it could be a go.

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Mike Relva — Tue, 24 May 2011 22:12:37 GMT

KY VET aka DRAYNAY

Nice try!

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trackjack — Tue, 24 May 2011 20:57:03 GMT

As I posted, I had Shack and AK in my 4 horse ex box and went across the board with AK and Shack, so I did very well for the race. They were the only bets on Saturday, spending the day outside with my grandson, watching him catch his entire little leaugue game and then went pond fishing (had a lot of action). We did break, grab some food, went back to my motel room and watched the Preakness before heading back to the pond.

I was concerned with Shack's "macho man" antics before the race, but he's a true gamer and was on top of his game Saturday, what an animal!

I'm concerned about Shack getting a mile and a half and truth be told, if AK had not gotten so far back and have to come from 18 lengths, he would have caught Shack. I think AK is a true mile and a half guy, if he's still got some fuel in the tank after these two races.

I have a hard enough time making my own picks that I find it entertaining that some on here have to rag on some one else's picks, but I do enjoy everyone's takes on these 3 year olds.

On to the Belmont and the winner is............

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KY VET — Tue, 24 May 2011 20:00:12 GMT

YOURE RIGHT SNIPER! WHY SHOULD I CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU PEOPLE SAY ON HERE? I MAKE THOUSANDS A MONTH BETTING HORSES....IVE HAD 2 LOSING MONTHS IN LAST 3 YEARS....I LOVE THIS GAME! I ONLY CRITICIZE STUPID COMMENTS! LIKE PEOPLE WHO THINK THE HORSES ARE NOT IN SHAPE FOR THE DERBY, OR PEOPLE TRYING TO PICK DERBY WITH BREEDING, OR JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING COLDFACTS HAS EVER POSTED,OR PEOPLE WHO DONT UNDERSTAND THE CROP RUNNING IN THESE TRIPLE CROWN ARE BARELY BETTER THAN ALW HORSES,OR PEOPLE THAT LIKE MMM BECAUSE HE JUST GOT 2 WEEKS OLDER, BUT IN THE END...YOU PEOPLE ARE PAYING MY RENT, SO KEEP ON BETTING PEOPLE!!!!!!

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Stevebiscuit — Tue, 24 May 2011 19:14:31 GMT

Draynay, the greatest mare ever? Even her trainer admits she has distance limitations. Best miler ever perhaps. Beyond a mile on any surface Zenyatta would eat her up and spit her out!

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Draynay — Tue, 24 May 2011 15:33:27 GMT

Goldikova was amazing and made her sweeping move to victory once again. At six she looks just as good as she did at 2, 3, 4, and 5. You are watching the greatest mare of our time enjoy it.

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sniper1 — Tue, 24 May 2011 14:44:16 GMT

My last post was understandingly dismissed by Jason as I went too far on a challenge to Dray and Vet---that said---it is one thing to disagree with someones picks but quite another to child and admonish them is another and I had a strong desire to quiet them. It was in second thought a bad post and idea.

I think both have too much "hubris" in them to care about others.

An analogy of the three of us in cartoon figures would be to say I am the sometimes cranky "Shrek" who shakes his head when he sees what is around him "Vet" is most like "Foghorn Leghorn" and needs a chicken hawk with a club and of course "Dray" is "Donkey" who won't shut up.

I am up on these things as I have a four year old to enlighten me on such topics as well as racehorse hobby.

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slyder — Tue, 24 May 2011 13:08:48 GMT

Isn't Draynay still a maiden this year......still looking for his first win?

LAZMANNICK 23 May 2011 6:09 PM

Laz,

Spot on and IF he ever breaks his maiden this year it'll be a "FLUKE".

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JayJay — Tue, 24 May 2011 08:24:25 GMT

LAZ : LOL, you're right, still a maiden, not even a bridesmaid maiden.

Dr. D : Yeah, that horse loves being in the thick of things, just loves to compete. I don't know about the distance in the Belmont, I think that would be really pushing him but hey, Da Tara. I don't know if there's going to be any speedballs that will try Shack again specially at 12F...it's suicide.

Rinzler : Gotcha. I wish I had your discipline just being able to play WPS. I just can't get away at the possible payouts with the exotics, so I play more tickets the higher the odds. Here's the funny part, the times I did hit the big ones is when I play less than $20.00 and that's mostly last minute bets. You'd think I'd learn my lesson...nope lol. I missed the comments about Shack being washed out but I did see he was kind of drench although didn't see any foaming so I chalked it up to him just being a hot horse that day. I was foaming at the mouth thinking he might actually run at 11-1 lol.

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tcc — Tue, 24 May 2011 03:32:45 GMT

Hey

Isn't Draynay still a maiden this year......still looking for his first win?

LAZMANNICK 23 May 2011 6:09 PM.

He will probably have to go into the maiden claiming ranks to get it!

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Linda in Texas — Tue, 24 May 2011 02:37:29 GMT

jayjay - Mucho Macho Man won't be 3 until June 15. He is still a puppy!:)

i am sick about Paddy O'Prado. Did not realize i would be watching him race for the last time.

LIT

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Bob from Boston — Tue, 24 May 2011 02:12:45 GMT

Rinzler,

Ted from LA considers ATB bets as scared money. Bet the win. You might miss some small payoffs over a lifetime, but you'll hit bigger win bets that make up for it. Remember, you only live once, unless you're mz. She should bet place bets. Who's going to the Belmont besides Ted from LA and Bob from Boston?

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Dr Drunkinbum — Tue, 24 May 2011 01:57:45 GMT

Lazmannick

Thank you very much. I love game horses. None gamer than Shackleford from the 3yo that I've observed this year. Combine that with the right style and conditioning for The Preakness, training great, with high energy and high cruising speed and he seemed to be the one most certain for a top three finish and excellent odds to take a shot with for the win.

Rinzler

Good job. Here's another possible bet when show will pay decent and the odds for the win are good. If you bet 20-40-80 you could instead bet W-70&S-70 for the same amount of money. You'll get less if he gets second but a lot more if he wins and the show is usually enough in big races so that you still win. It's one I'm doing more often to take advantage of good odds for the win. My Derby bet was WS for Shackleford, and W only for The Preakness only because I lost the Derby completely and wanted less risk and more reward in The Preakness. On to the Belmont which is often my favorite of the three.

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Rinzler — Mon, 23 May 2011 22:46:53 GMT

Jayjay, a "ladder bet" is an across-the-board bet, hedging in each spot. This was my ladder bet for both The Derby and The Preakness:

$20 Win

$40 Place

$80 Show

This is a large bet for me. And I took this risk because I know I will never get odds on him like this ever again, even if he lost. I had to stand by my conviction that my Derby pick was not a mistake. At 12/1 it was worth a shot.

I don't do exotics because including a second horse is too much for me. I missed getting a piece in The Derby, but I thought I got a really good run for my money. In The Preakness, my heart sunk when Brothers and Stevens kept talking (how washed out Shackleford was) and I thought that was that. I never expected to see such a display of heart and fortitude from Shackleford after setting those kinds of fractions.

That was the kind of run that will stick in my mind for a long time.

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LAZMANNICK — Mon, 23 May 2011 22:09:40 GMT

Hey

Isn't Draynay still a maiden this year......still looking for his first win?

Dr D......another that knows how to pick a winner. Congrats.

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tcc — Mon, 23 May 2011 21:55:35 GMT

...BELMONT I HATE SHACK! I HATE NEHRO...HATE MMM ...HATE ASTROLOGY......I WONDER WHO IT WILL BE?

KY VET 22 May 2011 10:34 AM.

...LEARN THE GAME!

KY VET 20 May 2011 9:13 PM.

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mr pibb — Mon, 23 May 2011 19:53:41 GMT

Right on draynot!! I see now draynay wants to drag up the Zenyatta crap by trying to bait others with his Goldikova statement just like he did last year. The guy never quits trying to argue, reminds me of a 7 yr old. I guess if you can't handicap a winner there isn't anything better to do.

Congrats to Shackleford and those who backed him. Animal Kingdom proved his Derby was no fluke and he's talented enough to run well on any surface. On to the Belmont where draynay has finally jumped on the Nehro bandwagon after missing it when he really paid well. Not so brilliant handicapping when you wait until everyone and their mother knows the horse has talent to jump on. I recall in his races before the Derby the draynay gave him no chance. It took two very solids efforts before the light went on. "Rookie!!"

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Dr Drunkinbum — Mon, 23 May 2011 18:00:38 GMT

Jason

I hope you're doing well after a difficult time with your loss. Hoping you can get back on the horse and nail The Belmont. I know you didn't hit The Preakness but you did say that you wouldn't be surprised to see Shackleford run big again. Good luck with The Belmont.

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JayJay — Mon, 23 May 2011 17:34:38 GMT

I'm glad to hear that Draynay is not on MMM for the Belmont. Just like Shack, MMM is one of the ones that has a very good foundation this year. I saw someone posted that he was still a 2 yr old when he ran in the Derby, I think he might be primed for the Belmont and I know he can run forever. AK showed he's real, he runs on any surface and I think the deeper track in Belmont is actually to his advantage. DI is not running in the Belmont, so that means I'll save some money lol.

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Dr Drunkinbum — Mon, 23 May 2011 17:29:40 GMT

jayjay, Zookeeper

Shackleford sure is pretty, but I don't think that's the only reason he won The Preakness, do you? Game as a Grizzly, and pretty as a peach, but can he run as far as The Belmont Stakes can reach? Would love to see a son of Forestry win The Belmont and turn the breeding industry upside down !!! Go Shackleford !!!! I love this horse and have since The Florida Derby. He's got game.