Baffert Back in the Mix

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Tiara Terces — Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:20:02 GMT

Black Caviar may be the greatest sprint mare ever but I doubt if she could beat Zenyatta at a mile and a quarter.

Let's hope she takes on Frankel this summer. Then we will have a better guage of her ability.

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Ra1nmaker — Tue, 28 Feb 2012 18:07:08 GMT

Afraid not, Draynay -- regarding your remarks at to Black Caviar, who --fast as she is, I don't believe would get past The Factor, right now (who, finally, is rating kindly, at age Four).

But no, Draynay. ...Of the greatest thoroughbred racemares Never to Have Known Defeat (and otherise), one stands alone. And that is "My Precious": KINCSEM (Hungarian), whose lifetime record remains 54-0-0 !

You wrote:

< Sorry, but the greatest racemare of all time has never lost. Black Caviar 19 and 0. >

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Footlick — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:01:12 GMT

I meant Zarkava is one of the greats-period. Looking at my post, it was confusing which horse I was referring to. Goldikova was wonderful, but Zarkava was just scary good. She was the equal of Allez France or Dahlia, imo. Goldikova, as good as she was, was still a cut below.

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Footlick — Mon, 27 Feb 2012 16:58:25 GMT

Everytime I start to think I can read a blog of Jason's, someone has to take a pot shot at Zenyatta. I didn't realize that she transformed herself into a 3 yr old on the TC Trail. And was being trained by Baffert. Are you people obsessed or what? It is absurd. Leave the animal alone. She isn't racing anymore. There is no need to comment about her.

Billy- actually Zarkava only raced males once, albeit in the most important race in Europe. But she did embarrass Goldikova twice. ;) IMO, one of the greats-period. But people do debate that because she only ran 7 times. But I know what I saw and to me she was the equal of Allez France and Dahlia. But we will never know for sure. Have a good one. I hope one day Jason will have a Zenyatta-free blog.

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Draynay — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:56:57 GMT

Union Rags.... I am always right.

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Draynay — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:49:50 GMT

Union Rags destroyed the field and ran well. Just like I knew he would. Union Rags is the Derby winner.

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Weekend — Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:23:14 GMT

I guess everyone forgets that the BC was on a synthetic track, which they have now replaced with dirt. Failed experiment, with flawed results.

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Draynay — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:51:28 GMT

100 dollar exacta box on Union/Desert

Florida Derby 1000 on Union Rags to win.

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ZORRO — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:55:43 GMT

Hello everyone Im new to posting on the blog eventhough I have read it periodically.I decided to post my opinions like everyone else.

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Age of Reason — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:16:55 GMT

I knew it would happen sooner or later! First Draynay gloats about how Union Rags will destroy the FOY field, now is he saying he just needs to run well and a win isn't even important. It's rare for him to start his spin even before a race is run...I guess that's why they call it blind loyalty...

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LAZMANNICK — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 21:58:00 GMT

Billy, you’re the one who always brings it up so maybe you should take your advice and move on. BTW the fifth highest rated horse all time on the Time Form rating at 142 is a pure sprinter. He never won a race beyond 6 furlongs and won the majority of his races at 5F. He tried 8F once and lost.

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LAZMANNICK — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:13:55 GMT

Zenyatta humbled Rip Van Winkle in their only meeting and yet RIW has a Time Form rating of 134 and Zenyatta 132. This makes a lot of sense.

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Weekend — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:51:14 GMT

Laz, I know how they work, or else I wouldn't of posted it. That is quite disrespectful actually. Did you read the rest of my post, with quote's about how difficult it is to have a timeform rating that high for a sprinter as opposed to gallopers/routers. It is an amazing feat, yet all you do is crow about her not going long. You disparage one great horse to make you feel better about Zenyatta's lack of accomplishment. In the last 5 years, we have had bigger accomplishments than Zenyatta's on the race track, Rachel, Zakarva, Black Caviar, Goldikova, just to name a few. I could throw in rapid redux, but I know better. They raced males on multiple occasion and beat them like a drum. Everyone always says it's about the competition, the company you keep, right? moving on

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NASCAR PRO — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:50:59 GMT

What does that statement mean are you still betting $200 on UR in the FOY or not Draynay?

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LAZMANNICK — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:49:32 GMT

Billy……..I also wonder what Black Caviar's Time Form Rating would be if she had to race beyond 7F.

Draynay……..Do us all a favor and wait until after Sunday before you continue with your hype. Like I posted above, Union Rags hasn't even won past a mile yet but then, let's see, Black Caviar runs well at 6F so maybe the fact that Union rags won at a mile but failed miserably trying to go an additional 16th doesn’t really matter and qualifies him as being the best. Let him win at 9F first.

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LAZMANNICK — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:43:48 GMT

Billy

Do you know how a Time Form rating is calculated and what information is taken into consideration? Do you not look at the top Time Form rated horses and come to the conclusion that they are all turf horses, that dirt horses are well down the list with Cigar being the highest rated at 138 and Easy Goer, Sunday Silence and Ghostzapper rated at 137.

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Draynay — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:23:48 GMT

NASCAR if you know anything about racing you would know that a win by UNION RAGS is not needed in the FOY. This is his first race back and just needs to run well. The Florida Derby and Kentucky Derby are races they will be looking to WIN.

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NASCAR PRO — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:04:22 GMT

Draynay betting only $200 leads me to believe that YOUR belief in UR in the FOY is not as strong as it was when you bet $2000 on UM in the classic.Bloggers caveat emptor.

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Weekend — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:01:51 GMT

Black Caviar TOP Timeform Rating 135

Zenyatta TOP Timeform Rating 132

Black Caviar Wins!!!

A few notes,

"IT'S official - unbeaten superstar Black Caviar is the best thoroughbred racing anywhere in the world"

"For Australia to have Black Caviar Timeform-rated above gallopers of this quality is a major achievement and something that has never happened previously," Racing and Sports founder Gary Crispe, the respected official Timeform handicapper for Australasian racing, said."The performances of Black Caviar have captured the attention of racegoers around the world."

"A 135 Timeform rating for Black Caviar not only places her fourth-highest in the modern era of Australian gallopers, but also puts her in elite company as far as all-time world-class sprinters are concerned."

"A review of Timeform ratings since the 1950s reveals Black Caviar is the ninth highest-rated sprinter of all time."

"Black Caviar's 135 Timeform rating also fell a pound short of the sprinter/miler Manikato, who sits on 136 as the highest-rated Australian sprinter in the modern era."

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Draynay — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:23:02 GMT

Lazzmannick, let me know your thoughts on Union Rags after the Florida Derby.

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Draynay — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:19:12 GMT

Stevebiscuit I would say we will never see Black Caviar win on dirt at 1 1/4 and I know for sure we will never see The State Restricted Poly Champion win at 1 1/4 on dirt. One will never try and the other has tried and got whipped a lot while getting beat. NASCAR I am saving the big bet for the Florida Derby. UNION RAGS WILL ROMP.

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LAZMANNICK — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 00:10:35 GMT

NASCAR PRO

It's possible that Draynay got his colleges mixed up. He says he went to Lenoir Ryhne but maybe he really meant LeAnn Rhimes.

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NASCAR PRO — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:06:17 GMT

Draynay thanx for the compliment.So your not trying to get back the $2000 you lost on one of this blogs favorite animals good ole Uncle Mo.As far as using google to find you,guess what after blogging on here I did that with Mark Duda and he was on there.There is nothing about his Lenoir Ryhne days but he is a head coach of another small college in Penn.I found his contact info and e-mailed him,lets see if he replies.I wont google you,I dont know who you are or care if you played QB at Lenoir Ryhne.What I do know is that you picked Mo for two grand and now are picking UR for a measely $200.Geez take a mortgage out on your private plane so you can bet $3000 on UR and be known as a winner on this blog.GL

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KY VET — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:45:33 GMT

DRANAY also has his OWN place.......its called FANTASY ISLAND!

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LAZMANNICK — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:03:11 GMT

Bravo yourself Age of Reason.