A Tell-Tale Weekend

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Ted from LA — Wed, 23 May 2012 21:48:10 GMT

The last word.

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Mike Monarchos — Fri, 13 Apr 2012 04:18:40 GMT

TaWee,

You got that right man. He'll bet 200.00 on the chalk and win 20.00! LOL

trackjack,

Great analysis! You have one hell of an imagination. Funny stuff! As my hero Larry the Cable guy says: "If ya don't think at's funny get the hell outa here!" Draynay makes me maddern a prostitute tryin ta put a rubber on an epileptic! An at's documented right dere! This is a fun time of the year.

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Mike Monarchos — Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:24:04 GMT

Billy's Empire,

I don't like running either. I didn't really like it in high school, but I was too small for football, and not tall enough for basketball in Indiana. Now when I run it's mostly short sprints. But I do think I could beat Dray at 8 furlongs, especially with a midget or Jason on his back. That still cracks me up!!!!

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Weekend — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:10:22 GMT

Still, Kudos to you. I never ran track, but had to run a lot for soccer, best I could do was about 5:20. I hate running. I would much rather do something fun while running, like Beer Olympics, chasing lions, or running from my girlfriends dad when he found me in his basement with his daughter... (I got away, but my mom was pissed I snuck out)

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Slew — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:46:29 GMT

Dray: Since I was discussing the Wood, and Gem wasn't in the Fountain of Youth, I have no idea what gear you're stuck in.

I never said Gem was fastest...but then, unlike Rags, Gem has never lost a race.

Now what happened to the intelligent Dray, and where have you hidden him? If you hurt him, I'll sic Monarchos on you!

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Mike Monarchos — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:15:30 GMT

jayjay,

That's funny stuff man!! The funny part is Dray would actually bet the race that way. After the race he'd say he had a bad start, I got away with a big lead on a slow track that he couldn't close into because of the strong wind in his face. LOL!

Billy's Empire,

That 4:40 mile was was 46 years and about 50 lbs ago. I think I could still burn him out at 8 furlongs with Jason on his back though. I'm fired up about the race man! I'm going up to Tampa Bay Downs today for a 2 furlong breeze. I'll keep you guys posted.

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trackjack — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:14:26 GMT

Mike Monarchos vs. Draynay:

analysis:

Draynay will sprint to the lead, yelling back at Mike and all who care to listen, "I'm the greatest, I'm the greatest." Mike will be looking down, losing focus, trying to type on his phone, finally, frustrated, throwing the thing into the crowd, looking ahead and begin to re-engage in the race, saying to himself, "remember Tiznow, remember Tiznow."

Someone in the crowd, waving their ticket, shouts to Dray,"hey, I have a $1000.00 win bet on Uncle Mo in the Breeders Cup." Draynay slams on the breaks, goes over to the fan and announces, "Really?, I have a $2000.00 win bet on Uncle Mo in the Breeders Cup right here and for 10 bucks you can take a picture of it." Meanwhile, Mike, having downshifted to another gear, cruises by Draynay for the easy win.

$20.00 to win on Mike Monarchos

$10.00 cold exacta Mike over Dray (how's that for chalk?)

Oh, do I love this time of the year!

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Weekend — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 12:58:47 GMT

Dang, 4:40 is moving. Might as well call you Prefontaine, not Mike Monarchos.

Dray, too damn funny! I was hoping you would make the connection....

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JayJay — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 09:12:46 GMT

Mike Monarchos : The funny thing is, when you two race, he'll put his $100WP bet on you because you'll be the chalk. He'll finish up the track but he'll win $20 on his WP bet. HAHAHAHA I crack myself up!

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Mike Monarchos — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 04:04:04 GMT

Draynay,

I just got your comment about not putting Jason on your back. Not bad man. LOL! But seriously, at your weight you should be able to carry Jason!

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Mike Monarchos — Thu, 12 Apr 2012 02:44:40 GMT

Billy' Empire,

1 furlong race, which is 220 yards sounds good. And Dray has to tote a midget? That's funny as hell man!!!! ILMAO!!!

furlongs,

If Dray's in his 40's I still should get a handicap there. If he doesn't have to tote a midget he should at least have to carry a small pig! Dray said he out weighs me by 40 lbs. If that's true he weighs 228 and should have no trouble carrying a midget, or at least a Munchkin.LOL!

Billy's Empire,

Since Dray weighs 228 lets change the distance to 8 furlongs! I ran a 4:40 mile in high school, but that was in 1966. Make it a slow track and into a 30 mph wind. Set it up.

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Draynay — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:48:54 GMT

Slew someone needs to tell you Gem isn't that fast. If you are stuck on this IDLE thing watch the Fountain of "Youth and tell me if needed Union could have posted a 100+ Beyer. Billy I am not putting Jason on my back. I outweigh Mike by 40 lbs.

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longwaytomay — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:40:15 GMT

Slew,

Couldn't have said it better myself. Alpha ran a really good race it just wasn't good enough. Gemologist lost interest and almost paid dearly for it. It was obvious to me that once he sensed Alpha was closing in he kicked it in another gear and the race was over. I don't really know what to think of Gemologist right now. He could be any kind of horse in my opinion. Might end up a being a superstar. He has the breeding, he has improved in each race and he hasn't lost. I will wait and see how he works and where he draws before declaring him the winner of this years Derby but right now he is in my top two.

Draynay,

If you would have paid attention to my picks last weekend you could have added Blueskys to your chalky exacta and had a 500.00 tri. Might have been a little too risky for you but it tasted alot better than chalk.

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furlongs — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:33:54 GMT

Draynay is in his 40's and trust me he doesn't need to tote a midget, he has no shot to win the race. All Mike Monarchos has to do is out sprint Dray the first 50 feet and the race is over Dray doesn't have the class or heart to get his nose up on the wire. He is totally cheap speed like Uncle Mo! lol

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Slew — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:48:19 GMT

By the way, Coldfacts, I thought I already explained how to tell if a horse is idling. Their head comes up, their ears twitch, and they start looking around. It's a loss of focus because the competition has disappeared. And that's exactly what Gem did on the lead.

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Slew — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:08:30 GMT

Dray...the only horse with a 105 Beyer is off the Derby Trail, and named Algorithms. Daddy Nose Best got a 102. Your hero, Union Rags has not gotten a number above 95.

ColdfaCTS: You're the one who chose your tag. You keep calling your opinions "facts". You mislead too many people by presenting half truths and spinning them into faulty conclusions.

You were trying to demean Gemologist's win when compared to Alpha, but you failed to realize Gem was idling when Alpha came up to him. Gem kicked back into gear, and Alpha didn't get past him. But you seem to try to go out on a limb to rationalize Alpha's loss. If you had bothered to read my entire post, you would have noticed that I explained all of the trouble Alpha had overcome just to get out in the clear and catch up to Gem. I actually considered Alpha to be the better horse because of all the work he had to do.

Some horses make the lead too early, wear out, and are simply passed by better horses. That's not idling...that's racing. But Gem idled...no matter what you care to believe.

As to other lengthy posters,(I'll pick on) notably Gun Bow, who has excellent factual on-site reports of the races themselves, is objective, and doesn't constantly criticize anyone else's choices. He makes intriguing reading, well worth the time. You, on the other hand, keep telling people they're wrong, you keep telling them you're right, and then you offer misleading information to support your claims.

You consider anyone pointing out your errors as a personal affront as though you are the only one on this blog with integrity. (Isn't that why you quit posting in Haskin's blog). There are a lot of people on this blog who know a lot more than you or I. Sometimes listening and learning elude you, but listening and learning are key in educating yourself. You do a lot of research, but you have tunnel vision when you do. You are looking for one facet, and never quite get the whole picture.

How many years did you rant on about breeding before you ever considered the dam's side of a colt?

I'm off to watch the Fantasy...hope you learn something instead of just trying to impress what you seem to think is just a herd eager for your "insight".

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Weekend — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:55:27 GMT

Mike 1 furlong race, Trackside Louisville (easy access) the week before the Derby. I will take the action. Since this is a handicap race, (you are 2x Dray's age), Dray will have to tote a midget.

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Mike Monarchos — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:12:16 GMT

Furlongs,

Thanks for having confidence in me in my upcoming match race with Draynay. I actually have more class than Dray since I'm a USF grad. I think Dray went to Lenore Wine and played flag football there. LOL! Correct me if I'm wrong Dray, because I'm almost never right! We're having a hard time deciding where to run the race though, because Dray doesn't want to have to run against the wind!

Any suggestions bloggers?

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CHIEF PICAWINNA — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:07:22 GMT

Correction its been longer since 1989

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CHIEF PICAWINNA — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 04:04:49 GMT

Question number two when was the last time a Santa Anita derby winner won the roses and who came in 2nd and 3rd.Clue its almost been as long.

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CHIEF PICAWINNA — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 03:54:30 GMT

The last time a Wood winner won the Derby was when a Wood winner and bridemaid came in reverse order in the exacta of 2003.Pop quiz Bob from Boston what were their nomenclatures.

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Coldfacts — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 02:13:48 GMT

Smoking Baby,

You are indeed brave to read some of the stuff that I post. My views anger a lot of folks and I am regarded as crazy and stupid my many. My wife told me that I have perfected the art of making enemies and I am on her short list. Going forwards I will make my posts more reader friendly by using bullet points. I owned and raced thoroughbreds in another life but have never been on the back of the one. I asked where the brakes were located on the animals and was directed the reigns. The idea of controlling and stopping a 1000lb animal with strings did not sit well with me. I am aware of the points made by you and the gentleman that hate me. I am of the opinion that it cannot be accurately determined that a particular horse is waiting on another. It is speculation based purely on the fact these animals are accustomed to running in packs. I think it would be more appropriate to state that a challenge was repelled. Horses on the lead that are passed by others are deemed to be waiting on those that finished ahead of them. The concept is therefore not applied evenly and should be avoided.

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Draynay — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:57:15 GMT

Lazmannick, spin it any way you want finishing in over 38 seconds with a gale behind you is terrible. Like I said, I guarantee GEM does not hit the board. Billy's Empire GEM is not a fast horse. I don't know what else to tell you. You don't have to tell me ANYTHING about El P I told everyone who would listen he was overrated. Focus on Union and DNB and save yourself some time.

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Coldfacts — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 01:56:17 GMT

Slew,

I will try to keep my response short. It is clear you have missed the point I tried to make. I agree with the fact that horses are accustomed to running in packs in their natural habitats. I take exception with the assessment that one can accurately state that a particular horse is waiting on others in a particular race. Some horses as you have rightly stated tend to idle when they make the lead and regain focus when engaged. Some horses make the lead and are passed by others. Do horses that surrender their leads wait on those that finished ahead? I fully understand the pack concept in spite of my ignorance and stupidity. As stated, there are far more appropriate assessments that can be advanced than one that cannot be accurately proven.

I am aware that I need to establish an editing system for my post as they contain far too many errors. Many thanks for pointing this out.

You seem to be always so angry and have not spared an opportunity to attack me. There are other contributors that make lengthy posts. I cannot recall you regarding them as being long winded. Mr. Sandler’s supporters have the option to read and post views on the submissions that they do not find provocative

I was merely responding to some points you directed at me. I try to avoid these types of exchanges but they always seem to find me.

NB: Do not read too much into a posting names.

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Householder — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:18:57 GMT

Bodemeister...ah yes Empire Maker...seem to recall he did something in the Belmont.