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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx</link><description>The speed-baller's presence could have a profound effect on Derby 138...</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007.1 (Build: 20917.1142)</generator><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#216566</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 21:34:28 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:216566</guid><dc:creator>Ted from LA</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;The last word.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=216566" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#212097</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:18:47 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:212097</guid><dc:creator>Draynay</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Jason has my 100 where is yours Jayjay ? &amp;nbsp;Come on chicken pick a horse so I can laugh.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=212097" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#212058</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 12:35:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:212058</guid><dc:creator>Weekend</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Ranag, thanks. I typically never bet a Mott horse off of a layoff, but this is a nice colt. Should be a great race in the Met Mile.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=212058" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#212032</link><pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2012 06:50:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:212032</guid><dc:creator>JayJay</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Draynay : Send the money to Jason and prove you actually have money to bet. &amp;nbsp;You pick nothing but losers so far so step up or go away, you&amp;#39;re like a mosquito in a swamp. &amp;nbsp;All &amp;nbsp;you make are buzzing noise, you&amp;#39;re worse than a first time bettor. &amp;nbsp;At least they hit on beginner&amp;#39;s luck. &amp;nbsp;You have no knowledge of this game. &amp;nbsp;Stick with Quarter Horses, it&amp;#39;s a short field and half the field is chalk LOL but I bet you&amp;#39;d pick the wrong chalk and still lose. &amp;nbsp;HAHAHAHA&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Send the money to Jason already and man up, stop with this babbling already. &amp;nbsp;We already know you&amp;#39;re going to be on Gemologist before the derby runs. &amp;nbsp; Once Jason confirms he has your $100.00, then i&amp;#39;ll post my horse after Wednesday. I have no confidence that you actually have REAL money to bet me. &amp;nbsp;I bet that 6 horse superfecta box is bet on virtual money lol. &amp;nbsp;You do know what virtual means right ? &amp;nbsp;It&amp;#39;s NOT real.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You&amp;#39;re ignoring Union Buster&amp;#39;s challenge again, you do this all the time. &amp;nbsp;When someone issues a challenge to you, you try to focus the blog to other people because you don&amp;#39;t have the cajones to take the challenge. &amp;nbsp;You&amp;#39;re a joke.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=212032" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211967</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 22:37:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211967</guid><dc:creator>Draynay</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Jayjay you&amp;#39;re the joke and don&amp;#39;t even know it. &amp;nbsp;Put up or shut up... you and furlong. &amp;nbsp;I take Union Rags you and furlong pick a horse for 100 bucks. &amp;nbsp;Union will finish in front of any horse you pick. &amp;nbsp;Come on step up or shut up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211967" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211963</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 22:20:25 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211963</guid><dc:creator>Ranagulzion</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Billy&amp;#39;s Empire,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great call with To Honor and Serve in the Westchester. He does look like one of the elite ones for this season. I&amp;#39;ll have to see him beat Caleb&amp;#39;s Posse in the Met Mile though. That race has CP&amp;#39;s name written on the trophy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211963" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211914</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:17:44 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211914</guid><dc:creator>JayJay</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Draynay : We have given in to the fact that you don&amp;#39;t know anything, we just tolerate your mambo jumbo babble because we understand now that you have no idea how to handicap a race. &amp;nbsp;We have accepted the fact that you know nothing. &amp;nbsp;You&amp;#39;re just someone we (except for a few) like to make fun of here, at least I do. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I noticed the challenge that Union Buster issue to you, if UR is such a monster, guaranteed winner of the KY Derby, why don&amp;#39;t you accept the challenge and stop ignoring it ? &amp;nbsp;Man up and take the challenge. &amp;nbsp;I&amp;#39;ll bet you&amp;#39;ll just ignore it because just like us, you have accepted the fact tht UR will not win. &amp;nbsp;Like I said, you&amp;#39;ll be on gemologist back all next week. &amp;nbsp;LOL, you&amp;#39;re a joke.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211914" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211898</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:13:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211898</guid><dc:creator>Rinzler</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Doesn&amp;#39;t really matter. It isn&amp;#39;t&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;really prudent to handicap now&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;at this time. Sure, it&amp;#39;s nice that&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you can handicap early with the PPs&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and make a pick. But I doubt that&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;you can seriously make a choice&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so soon without the post positions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Under normal circumstances you&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;can do that in a normal field of 14&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;knowing that all posts are viable. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Seriously, if a very bad post would&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;deter you from your pick, then why&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;insist on handicapping now for&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;contenders without having that&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;knowledge in the first place? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211898" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211865</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 05:48:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211865</guid><dc:creator>predict</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt; Trinniberg, looks to be a much improved horse this year, than as a two year old, when he loss to Secret Circle and Union Rags. I believe Martinez is a better match for him, for he has learned to how to relax and extend his stride. He is moving with one of the best strides I have seen, it looks effortless and very smooth while he looks as he could run much further than he has been running. Maybe this is why his connections have decided to give him a try at the Derby. I believe if he gets an easy lead he might just stay around alot longer than most might expect, totally running the likes of Hansen and Union Rags into the ground, and then maybe going all the way to the winner&amp;#39;s circle. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211865" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211843</link><pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2012 02:10:17 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211843</guid><dc:creator>Age of Reason</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Draynay a &amp;quot;Derby Master&amp;quot;? Let&amp;#39;s see him actually pick a Derby winner winner (BEFORE the race) prior to that kind of ego talk. Heck, even I had Street Sense...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211843" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211815</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 22:47:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211815</guid><dc:creator>CHIEF PICAWINNA</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Draynay what are you talking about you quit making picks.You dont know more than I know, and I am sure about that.You talk a big game.BTW unless they are crediting him with the top work(his was 3rd best)its not the BULLET.I dont play backgammon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211815" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211759</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:37:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211759</guid><dc:creator>Draynay</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Chief, his work was a bullet on a deep track that no other horse came close to. &amp;nbsp;Again you have proven you know nothing. &amp;nbsp;Pick a horse put up your 100 bucks or just step away quietly and head back to your backgammon game.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211759" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211720</link><pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:39:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211720</guid><dc:creator>CHIEF PICAWINNA</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Draynay UR&amp;#39;s work today is not anything like Barbaros.This is a late running colts workout,not a workout like Barbaros in 46 flat.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211720" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211625</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:10:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211625</guid><dc:creator>5stardayy</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt; hey we blogging FRIDAY/SATURDAY JAY?? &amp;nbsp;I mean chat.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211625" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211624</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:09:11 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211624</guid><dc:creator>Mary Zinke</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Carlos, I&amp;#39;ll keep you on file for that position. Gracias.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211624" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211608</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:45:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211608</guid><dc:creator>El Kabong</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Carlos, or should I say Jambi&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You are a bad Genie, get back in your jeweled box. lol.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211608" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211604</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:11:52 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211604</guid><dc:creator>Carlos in Cali</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Claro que si,cuando tu quieres.Aqui estoy para servir te como necesitas.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211604" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211572</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:15:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211572</guid><dc:creator>El Kabong</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Coldfacts, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keep it up. While I feel you may be reaching with both of those horses, you have made good points and your theories are a good read. Like some of the others, I do like Dullahan, but the search for exotics goes on and I respect your ability to spot a needle in the hay stack-Shackleford for instance-And if there&amp;#39;s one thing I do know about wagering this race, no matter how right your handicapping can be, wagering is another ball game. It helps to consider the view point of someone seeing things differently and we all know we can count on you for that. Thanks. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211572" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211568</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:52:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211568</guid><dc:creator>Draynay</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;plodderman you and most are all talk my horse to win the Derby is Union Rags based on my expert opinion and my ability to pick talent. &amp;nbsp;If you think you are better step up and name a horse and I will bet you or anyone else he finishes in front of them. &amp;nbsp;Step up hero...or is that 0 ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211568" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211549</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:54:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211549</guid><dc:creator>It aint easy being good!</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Coldfacts when is the last time the winner from the Illinios derby has hit the board? I bet on American Lion and lost a ton...the illinois derby doesnt produce derby winners. Going back to your post those horses that you mentioned have had a beyer of at least a 90.. Your boy Done talking ran a 86 you think he is going to jump up 16 beyer points in 3 weeks get real! If it down pours on Saturday then I might throw 2 bucks on him just for you! &amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211549" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211544</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:40:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211544</guid><dc:creator>Draynay</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Some of you need to follow the example of Coldfacts and just get over the fact that I know more than you do. &amp;nbsp;He lives with it and so should you. &amp;nbsp;This much I know for sure. &amp;nbsp;Bode isn&amp;#39;t going to hit the board. &amp;nbsp;Trinni will run him into the ground and those extra 8 pounds will not be his friend. &amp;nbsp;Union and DNB will be going right by him at the mile pole as he throws anchor. &amp;nbsp;Like I said if it comes up wet it will be a run away for Union.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211544" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211536</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:06:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211536</guid><dc:creator>plodderman</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Food for thought......... 11 of the last 20 Derby winners had their highest Beyer in their Derby prep race. Union Rags, Dray?????&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211536" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211535</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:05:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211535</guid><dc:creator>plodderman</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Dray: Blackjack/poker/racing....The only three games where knowledge can turn the table on the odds and win. I&amp;#39;ve seen win after win after win from you posted. You should do this professionally.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211535" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211526</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:01:29 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211526</guid><dc:creator>Union Buster</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Union Buster you have no idea what you are talking about and your screen name is just sad. &amp;nbsp;Cheer your horse on loser don&amp;#39;t root against another. &amp;nbsp;Rookie.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Draynay 26 Apr 2012 11:31 AM &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was talking about how you made the claim no horse ever had gained on &amp;quot;rags&amp;quot; in the stretch while you ignored the true fact that Dullahan did just that in the Juvenile.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My analysis that union on the rags will not win the Derby is not cheering against him. No cheer just fact. Come back on May 6 and tell me different. Even you won&amp;#39;t be able to spin the fact that rags lost.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How about a little wager between us? Do you have the cajones? If &amp;quot;rags&amp;quot; wins I&amp;#39;ll never come back to this blog and if he doesn&amp;#39;t you do the same. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;img src="http://cs.bloodhorse.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=211526" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description></item><item><title>re: The Trinniberg Factor</title><link>http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/triplecrowntalk/archive/2012/04/24/the-trinniberg-factor.aspx#211491</link><pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 06:32:16 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">b1464f20-99eb-45e5-b651-41da03ecff36:211491</guid><dc:creator>Ra1nmaker</dc:creator><description>&lt;p&gt;Coldfacts,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;lt; ...could this colt be the 2012 Derby winner hidden in plain sight? &amp;nbsp;He will be one of the colts in my wagers &amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mine too, though I&amp;#39;ll take a stand against him for the top spot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Propective is one who should easily outrun his odss (and he could be a sensational price).&lt;/p&gt;
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