Weekend Recap and New Top 10

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Luro — Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:07:29 GMT

What is Friesan fire peeking at???

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MATT H. — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:47:57 GMT

does anybody know that i want revenge might have partial ownership buy ieah stables i find that knid of funny since their top choice for the kentucky derby didnt even show up in the last race what is there aproach if they cant be in the derby by a horse that is on his way to the derby so you can say you knew it all along if he wins? just some food for thought at this point i stil say the best shot at the race depending on what he is capable of doing this weekend with prado as much as tod to win the deby i dont think thats going to happen although it might because i usually like a horse that didnt race as a 2 year old because they are fresh but i know the down sid to that is this if you make on mistake and your dont and i think the know that and i think that is why he said if they dotn win the floriday derby they will do the preakness or the belmont. i alway have liked tod i think he a very good trainer and he is realistic about what he's got he doenst look past anything excet whats righ infront of him i think alot of trainers these days could take a lesson from that i wish dunkirk all the best for this weekend im keeping my fingers crossed and not expecting to much after all he is having prado ride and we all what west side burnie managed to do this past weekend eventhough that horse was over rated any was and i think alot of these horses this year are sligtly over rated you dont really have that one out standing horse whre you can just say that is the one

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Wanda — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:06:14 GMT

Liked your comments regarding FF LDP. His numbers are improving and you have to like a horse who wins a major prep as easy as he did. I always like to see a horse win that way when their headed down a tough road come May. You don't know how much he got out of that race but who cares about times when they win that easy. It's the way they train horses now like it or not, they don't put them under the grind like they did years ago. Your not going to see eye popping times anymore unless they all show up for the big dance and everybody's got their game face on.

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LDP — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 00:13:08 GMT

Householder,

maybe i'm mistaken, but i believe the Southwest and Remsen are stakes, which OF did happen to win. I could understand if you just put Dunkirk seeing as how he's only won a maiden and allowence, but OF not only won stakes, but incases you didn't notice they were graded stake aswell. Also how do you see FF chance at dimming? he just won his last, again another of those lowly graded stakes by seven lengths, against what many thought was one of the best preps of the year untill he manhandled the field.

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Householder — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:03:45 GMT

marc c. You list looks good. We keep hearing about what these "super horses" are going to do (e.g., Old Fashioned, Dunkirk). How about going with horse that have actually won some stakes races. The only horse that would have a chance at topping the big west's 4 would be FF. We will see how he does next out. His chances may even be dimming.

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August Song — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:47:39 GMT

Quality Road wears the roses in May. It was good to see that my eyes have not failed me. I finally saw that it was acknowledged in the media that this horse was BIG. If you doubt, how big? You will get your opportunity to see how big he is, next to the other horses, in the Florida Derby. Shades of Forego!!!

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Sami — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:45:26 GMT

Here is my Derby Top 10:

1. Friesan Fire

2. Pioneerof the Nile

3. I Want Revenge

4. The Pamplemousse

5. Old Fashioned

6. Desert Party

7. Quality Road

8. Dunkirk

9. Stardom Bound

10. Rachel Alexandra

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Matthew W — Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:50:32 GMT

Monica RIGHT ON! We ARE fortunate to have Tiznow and Candy Ride...and hopefully Curlin and Big Brown will bring their own fruits to the harvest---and Giants Causeway---But Tiznow has the Man O War line...and Tiznow was/IS a real specimen...Monica I think we ARE going through a "new surge" in an (old) stamina influence...it's ironic, but synthetic tracks seem to NEED more stamina than speed to win races...and darn it if that doesn't please me....

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Scotty P — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:35:37 GMT

Looks like a jockey change for Old Fashioned...Terry Thompson gets the mount!!!

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marc w. — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:13:55 GMT

DEFINITELY subject to change but if will give a list since I have looked at so many

Friesian Fire –original pick no reason to change on what has transpired

Pioneer of the Nile-not pretty buts just wins

I Want Revenge- hate to put him this high but things change

Chocolate Candy—I just see him going well in the Derby no matter how he shows up in the SA Derby

The Pamplemousse-obviously this one can go higher but I will leave him here

Win Willie –Fluke? I really don’t think it was and I have gone back and watched that race 5 times. How good? That’s a tough question even if he runs well again.

The rest of the top ten would be the Florida crew, which needs to be sorted out and will shortly. Dropping from # 2 to this group would be Old Fashion also downgraded was Papa Clem although he ran well. Terrain is not a horse I would say can win in the Derby but is possible to hit the ticket. Beethoven is this years Dennis of Cork in my opinion if the outfit wants placing in big races instead of wins in others, it is very possible he will pick up checks in the big ones..

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marc w. — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:34:53 GMT

Not me if that was the ref. As to Fight Club are you sure you are not the Brad Pitt character? Same posts different name?

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Householder — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:49:05 GMT

The Pamp worked well today. I thought Chocolate Candy's mile work was interesting. He is well rested. We may have Chocolate covered Grapefruit come April.

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Matthew W — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 03:10:08 GMT

There's only ONE horse who can carve out fast fractions and then open up on them at the 1/4 pole....."Viva La Grapefruit"!

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Mike Relva — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:42:03 GMT

TO SLEW.EM>ALL

Very funny! I NEVER WROTE ON ADAM's BLOG! SOMEONE WROTE THAT STUPID POST AND PLACED MY NAME THERE. ANY IDEAS? First,I like FF and second I've never posted on that certain blog before. Guess you wouldn't know who did that,right??

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Matthew W — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:36:26 GMT

Monica V....The horses of today are TOO strong/TOO much muscle which causes soundness problems as their joints/tendons/bones simply cannot "keep up", as it were.....that is why I abhore reading about running fillies v males anymore--not that it ever was a good idea....Mr Prospector/Fappiano and others were milers who were used to influence speed into stamina bred mares---it worked and breeding patterns were changed virtually overnight! I still long for that Curlin type---in fact, when I see a horse who may be great, I almost hope he's a gelding....and I mean that....There's a reason that Best Pal was so beloved....

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Mike Relva — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:32:12 GMT

Marc W

Not even funny!!!!!!

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Matthew W — Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:24:53 GMT

My Derby exacta:.....Well there's SO many ways a race can be run, but if The Pamplemousse has a two length lead at the 1/2 mi pole,(that's likely), and Freisan Fire is 2nd or 3rd at that point,(and THAT'S likely), I'll be moonwalking to the cashier windows! That's NOT likely as I cannot dance!

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marc W — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:23:11 GMT

Relva/dray a little "Fight Club" going on here? But if you didn't catch the Divinyls ref you might not catch this one.

Win Willy 50-1 on bodog.com FF 7 & 1/2

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Slew.em.All — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:22:58 GMT

Relva:

Answer; Adam's Turf/The Giant's fall..yesterday @ 11:43am. You said: "Friesan Fire is too slow just ask draynay"..which tell's it all right there. Read it and weep!

Jason,r u having a live blog this Saturday?

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MATT H. — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:58:28 GMT

I DID NOT KNOW CHEF WAS THAT BAD ON MARCH 6TH. GOOD BY TO THE DERBY THAN AND TRIPLE CROWN. DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MAFAAZ HE WON LAST NIGHT, BUT MAFAAZ LOOKED SLOW TO ME?

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Householder — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:49:49 GMT

I saw Pioneer up close last time out. He is the fittest horse I have seen since Alysheba. I do worry about running him back on only 3 weeks rest against much better rested horses like Chocolate Candy. Baffert has run second in the SA Derby before only to nail the big one. This guy knows what he is doing and he certainly is not running this horse into the ground. If most of these horses could talk they would say "Take me to Baffert."

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Householder — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:45:41 GMT

Agreed Matthew W. If it is not the Churchill dirt it is the last 1/8 mile. A few West Coast horse have run and done well on Pro-Ride, Tapeta, and Cushion Track, which according to trainers, are completely different synthetics. This may increase their chances of taking to a different surface. I also remember Winning Colors winning the Derby and then a year later getting nailed at the wire by Personal Ensign on the same track. Granted the later was an undefeated super horse and Colors had a difficult campaign. My point is Churcill is hard to handicap for dirt horses as well...even ones like Winning Colors who ran well both east and west. Throw in a little more or less moister and good night.

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Mike Relva — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:28:22 GMT

TO: PHANTOM:

I just had the impression Pioneer was tired. Several on this blog has stated that. Obviously I have no way of knowing,but he's been one of my early picks from months ago.

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Mike Relva — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 18:24:28 GMT

TO:SLEWem.ALL

Question? Show me where I ever Said FF wasn't fast enough.

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marc W — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:22:38 GMT

Jason,

Getting back to Derby doings---question?

The only Derby I saw live was Proud Clarion's win over Barb's Delight and Damascus. I was also there and I think it was the "week" proceeding the Derby that Barb won the Derby Trial. (My dad was in Cool Receptions camp) Citation ran against older in allowance races as preps.

The question-with accommodating racing secretaries--and they are out there. With a race written for them, why couldn't a horse needing a good easy prep with his ticket in earnings already punched, just avoid stakes and odd racing surfaces to have him win a easy allowance and have him in perfect shape for the Derby?