Updated Kentucky Derby Graded Earnings

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Taurus — Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:05:16 GMT

Desert Party is a definite overlay in this field. This horse can bring it bigtime in the last 1/4 mile and that's exactly what I'm looking for in this Derby. Don't underestimate the Godolphin pair, both horses were at least 15 lengths ahead of the field at the wire in the Dubai Derby a (Grade 2 race) the final time 1:50 is deceiving,the important thing is how fast both ran the last 1/4 mile.They both literally blew away the entire field in the stretch. Both are training extremely well over the CD strip. Regal Ransom had things his way in the Dubai Derby,that won't happen on Saturday,however the pace will be taylor made for Desert Party. Anytime a horse is 15 lengths ahead of the field at the wire in a Grade 2 race,it's safe to say that horse has a lot of talent. That kind of performance doesn't happen too often in Grade 2 races. The 15-1 odds this horse is listed at is ridiculous.---- Again, don't undereStimate him, this horse is sitting on ready for this race and he'll be very tough to deal with when they turn for home this Saturday------take heed!

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Horswld — Sat, 25 Apr 2009 05:41:19 GMT

Greg J,

Couldn't have said it any better myself. The excuses will be so far out of this world that it will be just plain sad. That's really no different than the rest of Dray's comments. Just my opinion. I've already got pre-Derby butterflys. Can't wait to see the "Fire" burn up the triple crown. (Sorry. Just can't help myself.lol)

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Greg J. — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:17:20 GMT

Horswld,

Mark my words...

Now Dray will say it will be the weakest field ever for the derby because Quality Road isn't in it(If they decide not to run him), If Quality Road does race, but doesn't win, He will say it was because of the Quarter Crack, If they do race Quality Road(Which I don't think will happen), He will be 100 percent sound, They would never chance it if he wasn't, So their should be no excuses....

Friesan Fire all the way to Triple Crown(I know, Getting a little ahead of myself, lol)...

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Horswld — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:18:12 GMT

Greg J,

Thanks for your feedback. I think FF has nice speed out of the gate also. Funny no one else seems to acknowledge that fact. And yes the blinkers are great. They should keep him focused out of the gate and into his first few strides which will be key for him. If it does rain--lights out for the rest. Wouldn't you like to have heard the hot air being knocked out of Dray and August when they found out QR has another quarter crack? They have just talked that poor horse right into the ground haven't they? Too bad if he misses the Derby. I sure would like to see FF take it to him.

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Greg J. — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:43:49 GMT

August Song,

Lastly, I have said before, Everyone is forgetting that Quarter Cracks are SO unpredictable, I still have a gut feeling it will flair up, I pray I am wrong, Because I want the best possible field, but they almost never heal as fast as they say...

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Greg J. — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:38:55 GMT

August Song,

Follow Up, Here are 32 of the Country's Top Handicapper's, and 25 of them must be "UN-WORTHY", Since they don't have "Quality Road" as their run away winner!(IWR-10 first place votes, Friesan Fire-8 first place votes, Quality Road-7 first place votes, POTN-5 first place votes, Dunkirk-2 first place votes, Musket Man-1 first place vote)...

Honestly, According to you, Why should they even run the race?, They should just give Quality Road the Roses and save every other UN-WORTHY horse the trouble, lol...

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Greg J. — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:22:33 GMT

August Song,

In your opinion,

Does it matter at all to you that Quality Road(In the FOY) carried just 114 pounds under the conditions of the race, eight pounds fewer than Capt. Candyman Can, Beethoven and Break Water Edison, the 122-pound high weights.

Also, You are funny, Since I don't think Quality Road will win, and everyone else who thinks he won't win, That makes us UN-WORTHY people, Wow, I didn't know that if you liked a certain horse that makes you Better then every other UN-WORTHY person, Wow, come back down to earth, please, When you walk through a doorway, Do you walk sideways(To make room for your swelled head)???, It really doesn't matter that you have some deep secret that only a few know(I doubt you are talking about the anti-bleeding medication furosemide, which he was on for the first time?, Because that is really nothing at all)...

Bottom Line, I love "Friesan Fire" to win, and you like "Quality Road" to win, when every thing is said and done, Nobody ever knows who will win until the race is over, or we could all quit are day jobs, and just always place winning wagers....

Good Luck with your "Worthy" pick, and, I guess(According to your logic), Good Luck to Every other "UN-WORTHY" person who didn't pick Quality Road, lol....

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Greg J. — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:00:14 GMT

Horswld,

Sorry, Missed it, But "Friesan Fire" does remind me a little of "Afleet Alex", in his style, You are spot on with his La. Derby win, I think, The most impressive win this year, Even better then I Want Revenge's win, which was incredible also, just think the field wasn't as impressive as the La. Derby.

If it rains all next week, Fire will win by ten lengths(lol), Also, If you look at all of Fire's races, He has great speed out of the gate, that seems to go un-noticed, yes, Quality Road has probably the best speed, BUT, as I have stated before, This horse is in-experienced and that will come back to haunt him, the Derby is a free for all, alot of contact, traffic, strategy, and different then anything Quality Road has seen, Dray can build this guy up forever and other people too, Of course he has a chance, so does 5 or 6 others, But my gut is just saying Fire will take home the roses, And Jones will have the freshest horse, Even though he hasn't raced in seven weeks, I still believe he will be fit, Also, I love the blinkers, he is a very focused horse, remember, Jones has done this before, as far as training with long breaks, Hard Spun, finished second in his derby, Fire is just more talented which is why he will win((Also a good Post will help, but it is still possible for him to get to the front if he has a far outside post, he has won before from far out)), Finally, he is bred for distance, so the fact that people say he has never raced a long distance, doesn't faze me in the least....

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Horswld — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:25:30 GMT

Greg J,

You never did respond to my blog. FF is my horse also. Liked him as a two yr old. Back up and read my blog and give me your opinion. Please.

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August Song — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:57:38 GMT

Yep, Quality Road "didn't have to deal with any adversity" and "NEVER faced adversity" in the Florida Derby or any of his other races. And "Dunkirk ran the better race." LOL, you have to love these individuals logic. When he was sick for the 7 furlong allowance race and he got a slow start and then the jockey, (Alan Garcia) raced him up to engage the leader and fought the entire length of the racetrack, only to be passed by Theregoesjojo in deep stretch and to finish 2nd. Nope, that doesn't count, no adversity there. Hmmm, let's see, in Florida Derby he developed a quarter crack in his hoof during the running of the race, which affected where he ended up finishing, and the time that he ran his race in. Yep, no adversity there. If he didn't hurt himself, he might have won the race, and certainly his time would have been better. And, that leaves the Fountain of Youth. There was no adversity in that race either, that I choose to disclose to anyone here, now. Because you doubters, are simply not worthy. To the believers in Road, what I have to comment will not make a bit of difference to them, except to confirm what they already know about him, that he is truly special. Just his connections, and just a few others know what happened to Road during the Fountain of Youth. Maybe, you can speak with one of them. If you can't, I'll let you unworthy ones think about. I'll tell you after the Derby. In the meantime, "Nope, Quality Road NEVER had to deal with any adversity." LOL

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Greg J. — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:43:11 GMT

Mike Relva,

How are you?, Of course I still like "Friesan Fire", Like him more everyday, I don't think Quality Road will hit the board, Too much for him to handle, but we will see, Alot of people are dismissing Fire's speed, I honestly think he can set the pace from the opening, but alot depends on post, If you go back and look at all of his races, He is is very quick from the break, The mile and a quarter doesn't faze me in the least, Distance is in his blood, plus, I trust Jones with what he is doing, Un-conventional, Yes, but he did almost the same with Hard Spun, and they worked out for him, I just think this is the most talented horse Jones has ever had...

Going with Chocolate Candy, General Quarters, Summer Bird on my biggest Tri's, But I will mix it up, I am sure...

Pioneer of the Nile, is a great horse, but it is bugging me that he has never raced on dirt and all of his wins have been won by less then 4 lengths total, He has heart, though...

We shall see, Should be one of the greatest Derby's in recent memory...

Ranagulzion's "Spin" is fine with me, Comment was uncalled for, but he clarified it, so I guess I will take him at his word...

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Mike Relva — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:05:07 GMT

GREG J

How are you? Do you still like FF? I like him and also cause of Larry. But,also Pioneer,Quality Road. I wasn't convinced with Ranagulzion's "spin". It was totally uncalled for. Would like to see him explain it to Larry Jones. lol

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Saratoga AJ — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:21:38 GMT

When you look over this field, you can make good a case for 7 or 8 of

them. When you consider the ones who are hurt and didn't make it...Old Fashioned, Pamplmousse, Vinyard Haven, Midshipmen. Plus add the three terrific 3 yr old fillies...Rachel, Stardom, and Justwhistledixie...well I'd say this is one of the best crops of 3 yr olds I've seen. And I go back to the early 60's. Maybe equal to legendary 1957 crop???

I still will go with a nice wager on Rachel/Quality Road Oaks/Derby double. And key QR on top in all exotics. And there's sure plenty to pick from under him!

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Slew.em.All — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:01:07 GMT

wrong song--that spot under the old oak tree is already reserved with your name on it.They say u can even bring along your decrepit,mangy old-mutt to keep you warm,but not your banjo.You'll have to leave it in your aunt's basement along-side your dignity and empty promises...cheers! lol

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Wanda — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:29:42 GMT

GregJ: I like your post it sums everything up nicely. People can post figures and facts till the cows come home but as you say anything and everything is possible. By the way where is home for those cows?

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Monica V — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:00:55 GMT

I'm doing great Wanda, how about you? I wish our buddies would post too. I'm getting excited about this year's TC races. Looks like a lot of talent this year and some great racing coming up.

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Greg J. — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:20:46 GMT

Draynot,

I am not dismissing Quality Road, I just think everyone is making too much out of the Fla. Derby, If he didn't win, Now that would have been news, He was racing against basically three horses, It was a good race, Not a "Great Race" like everyone seems to be saying, The track was souped up so those times are skewed, and he didn't have to deal with any adversity. Can he win the Derby, Of course, there are probably five or six that can, In what I consider the best field in a long time, even with the loss of The Pamplemouse and Old Fashioned. I just can't pick all of the horses that I think could win, I have one, Friesan Fire, I will not change because he has been my number one since day one and he has done nothing wrong to change my mind, I loved the Pamplemousse, but the injury sucked, but that is part of this sport.

Bottom line, In my opinion, Too much can go wrong for Quality Road in the Derby for me to pick him, He has NEVER faced adversity and the Derby is unlike any race he has been in, I think his inexpierence will come into play. Of course I can be dead wrong, But that is what makes Horse Racing Great, Anything and Everything is possible....

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Wanda — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:03:39 GMT

Hey MonicaV how are you? I wish Atthebarn and Whatamidoing would post the odd one, I miss those guys.

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August Song — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:59:58 GMT

slew em if he could, I Want Revenge will save you a tin can, that he picked up from one of the goats that he beat in his last race. He said that you can use it to try and earn back all the money that you're about to lose. Put a pair of sunglasses on and you'll be perfect.

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Mike Relva — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:22:22 GMT

TO: AUGUST SONG

I agree with you regarding IWR,but I've got news for you,no horse should be called a "goat".

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Mike Relva — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:18:33 GMT

TO:SLEW.em.ALL

First,I'm org from Miami,no creeks there,lol. Also,my gf isn't a waitress,maybe you were referring to your gf with the waitress thing,lol. As far as being on target,I was last time FF raced,except someone placed a phony post on Adam's blog,(which he removed). Oh yea,you did notice he removed it and emailed to agree no way it was mine.

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Slew.em.All — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:09:10 GMT

Relva-- You haven't 'been on target' all season,why should it change now...Ego? lol.I wasn't the one who mentioned that my girlfriend was a part-time waitress..err..model in Cali did I.Ego?.If that's how you feel because of your limited knowledge regarding the 'Ponies is obvious on this blog,then don't go chasing waterfalls,stick to the creeks and the streams that you're used to.

Rana-- "I don't bet big,but when I do,I bet the Slews"!!....stay thirsty my friend. lol

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August Song — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 23:01:39 GMT

Key Quality Road with Desert Party, Regal Ransom, Hold Me Back, and Dunkirk for the triple and superfecta.

I Want Revenge could not beat Pioneerof the Nile, and he still can't. And you noticed where I placed Pioneer in my triple and superfecta.

Friesan Fire - I like Jones as a trainer a lot. As much as I like him as a trainer, I believe he gave the horse 7 weeks off for a very good reason. He was a late foal. He too, like I Want Revenge beat up on nobody. He is still developing. He will need every ounce of strength just to finish 4th. He will still finish in front of I Want Revenge, though. I Want Revenge beat some goats in his last race. Now, he has to face some real horses. Milkshake Mullins needs more than just Air Power for this horse. He needs to find another drug that, the authorities haven't typed yet, or have the Kentucky Derby race switched to be run on the Aqueduct inner track. The horse is a complete toss.

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Ranagulzion — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:59:23 GMT

SLEW: If Quality Road "hits a brick wall" and is beaten 10 lengths in the Derby by I Want Revenge according to your forcast, I'll have to change my name from RANAGULZION to RUMPELSTILTSKIN. LOL.

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Mike Relva — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:59:23 GMT

TO: SLEW.em.ALL

I have to hand it to you,I was wrong regarding Haynesfield,also w/IC in the Wood. But,I'm on target regarding IWR not winning the Derby. I don't want any of your excuses either. Just want you to lose your ego and admit you were wrong when it happens!