Derby Shake-Up

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War Pass — Fri, 30 May 2008 21:49:53 GMT

War Pass is my pick,I believe War Pass would've won the Derby, he's faster than Big Brown, no doubt about it. I've seen what this horse can do up close and personally,trust me if he comes back he's going to the Traver's I think. I'm looking foward to him beating Big Brown. Rick Dutrow can be cocky all he wants, but trust me he hasn't beaten the best yet. IEAH stables entered a rabit in the wood to take out War Pass and look what they did... just what they wanted War Pass missed the Derby giving Big Brown an easy win. I hope Big Brown wins the Triple Crown and War Pass comes back to beat him in the Travers. GO WAR PASS!

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Householder — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 15:48:38 GMT

Yankee Bravo's 4th place finish the the SA Derby certainly did not legitimize or bolster Pyro's LaDerby performance. Colonel John looks to have the right breeding where War Pass can't seem to get the classic distances. Bob Black Jack adds a new dimension and could be this years Hard Spun. If he goes to the KY Derby Hard Spun will never get in front of him. As for the Kentucky Derby...my advice is to look west. I'm looking forward to another $35,000 superfecta the first saturday in May.

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Householder — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 06:31:47 GMT

Yankee Bravo is a good pick for the SA Derby but I worry about the "Storm Cat" KY Derby Jinx. He was only 3 off of Pyro in what looked to be his best race so far. He finished strong that day so adding 1/16 of a mile is great. Another 16th and he could have caught Pyro. He was pretty far back. If he wins the SA Derby it would have the look of a horse peaking at the right time. Colonel John looks like his main rival. El Gato Malo translates to "This Cat won't run this far."

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1stcav — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:20:03 GMT

Kathy Walsh needs to put G. Gomez back on Georgie Boy. Kent D is going to the Derby with Big Brown.

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Ranagulzion — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:05:51 GMT

Big Brown's pace and finishing kick reminds me of Barbaro and War Pass' speed and tenacity reminds me of Spend-A-Buck. Assuming that both of them make it to the starting gate, we are in for a thrilling 2008 Kentucky Derby. Pyro should be closing at respectable distance behind these principals.

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draynay — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:41:47 GMT

Maybe you have not seen Big Browns other races but he likes to rate and he only took the lead at the Florida Derby because he had to from the 12 post or get stuck wide.

Big Brown wins the Derby by 7 rating off of War Pass. No other horse has a shot...game over Big Brown is just too good.

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Triplecrownquest — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:38:02 GMT

What is it going to look like when Big Brown and War Pass hook up on the lead in the Derby? This race is setting up for a closer to win on the first Sat. in May.

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Smittytoo — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:20:36 GMT

I like Yankee Bravo to burst the SA bubble and cruise down the stretch.

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Matthew W — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 07:02:51 GMT

Pyro ran the same day as Grasshopper/Circular Quay----his time factored poorly for me---some 10 lengths behind the older horses and that is not acceptable----Georgie Boy runs like a turf horse, on a track that plays like a turf course, and now he has a turf jock---I can see changing jocks but maybe for Gomez, or Bejarano---Michael Baze was stuck inside, kinda forced his way out, (thought he could've been dq'd), and maybe he didn't pull him up soon enough---I think Baze pulled him out to herky/jerky, and Kent D., aka "The Brain", can rate a stalking position and if Georgie gets the distance, goodby---'think he'll win SA Derby by at least two.....

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mindy corbin — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:44:50 GMT

Colonel John !!! He has been trained perfecly by Eoin Harty and will run a great race in the Santa Anita Derby. We have not seen his best, as yet.

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Derwin — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 14:44:08 GMT

So far almost all the horses have been picked to win the Derby. Only one guy made a good point about the Beyer rating. I am waiting on the results of the Florida Derby and the Wood memorial to pick the winner and the way I see it this is to me, my easiest Derby winner to pick.

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terrtek — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:40:43 GMT

War Pass never got in front of an 80-1 Tampa Bay runner the entire race. Yes it's just one race but it could not have been a worse one. Even if he would have won there are numerous concerns about him. Wouldn't play him with monopoly money.

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LittleMissWinner — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 14:51:55 GMT

Just watch out for Pyro in the Derby. Bred for the distance, trained correctly by Asmussen, and unlike War Pass, he's had dirt kicked in his face and has won. With the size of the Derby field you need "turn of foot", and he has that and more and is maturing at the right time. But if War Pass gets the lead and can stay in front . . . he'll be somewhere in the top three. So, for the Derby, I normally pick a "mid pack" specialist to win, and hedge my bets with a speedster as well as a "come from behind" horse. So the top three will be Pyro, War Pass, Cool Coal Man and maybe Visionaire. I'll be at the Wood on April 5 to get a good look at War Pass. Anyone remember Bellamy Road? We'll get to see what happens or who falls apart in the next few weeks. That's horseracing!

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dotcom — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:25:59 GMT

I think War Pass will disappoint again in his final prep in the Wood and wont even make the Derby starting gate. Pyro looks impressive in his wins but so do maiden 25's at Calder during the summer. He is slow and appears too lightly framed to win the Derby. My point is that this Derby will be won by a late bloomer. Elysium Fields, Big Brown, or Tomcito will take the Forida Derby and will compete against Visionaire, Cool Coal Man, and Big Truck down the stretch in the Derby...3-1 on the field in Derby futures pool #1 is looking as juicy as 3-1 will ever look to a gambler.

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Mike D — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 06:35:42 GMT

NUMAANY will win the Kentucky Derby.