Not Your Ordinary Top 10

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Dr Drunkinbum — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 16:37:55 GMT

Here's my Derby Super High Five-Straight. Mine That Bird, Musket Man, Papa Clem, Pioneerofthe Nile, Dunkirk. OOPS, that was last year at this time. This year's is Setsuko, Sidney's Candy, Lookin at Lucky, Eskendereya, Conveyance. Merry Christmas.

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Pasturelands — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:57:54 GMT

For the first time, the KY derby has no clear favorite.. it is soo sad when the hopes of the TC are pinned on one ESKANDEREYA alone.

Where have all the Affirmed's and Spectacular Bid's gone?

Christine scratched in her last race. Dublin and all the others have failed to separate themselves from the pack.

I think that Rachel vs Zenyatta grudge match at the AB is garnering more interest than the TC this year!

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Forbidden Apple — Sat, 06 Mar 2010 00:53:23 GMT

It is Mendip and he ran a very slow race of 1:59 2/5 for 1 3/16. Regardless of the time, he sure does have the look of a runner. He should be on everyone's radar for the run for the roses.

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RiverCitySmitty — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:39:58 GMT

Christine looked good to me in her race. Blind Luck has looked excellent in all her races, but I`m always leery of poly runners. Amen blew them away and my Sassy Image didn`t run a lick. All that being said, 4 out of the last 5 Ky. Oaks winners have gone through the Fair Grounds. This year a filly named Jody Slew has won both the preps for the FG Oaks and has the running style that fits for CD. Odd thing is she was purchased with the hope she`d be a decent turf horse. The lack of available turf races for her let her connections take a shot on dirt. It`s worked out quite well.

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Footlick — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:00:34 GMT

Or is it Mendip???? Sorry about the typo.

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Footlick — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 00:03:11 GMT

Billy's Empire- Godolphin already stated before the race that Vale of York was behind in his preparations. He ran how I would expect a short horse to run. Red Desire ran a great race. Vodka ran a disappointing one also, but she may have needed the race. They want them to peak at a certain time. Dettori seems to like Medip. Said he just keeps improving.

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Mike Relva — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:42:48 GMT

I think Christine has nothing but "upside" in her future.

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longwaytomay — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:34:22 GMT

gw_bushwacker,

I wasn't refering to you in my post. It just happened to fall where it did. There were alot who were saying Christine didn't impress them at all on two different blogs. Sorry about that.

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LDP — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:15:42 GMT

Billy,

I think it may have been the distance of the race. It was his first race back going a distance most horses don't even try until May, so he could've been a bit short.

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carolyn — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:58:01 GMT

"Come join the real world sometime nay nay. If you can't handle that at least don't go putting words in my mouth just so you can vent".

gw_bushwacker

Re: "OUCH"

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TJLuvsTizs — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:19:19 GMT

Jason,

Any news on how Vale of York performed this morning? I am not counting on him to score in the derby, but I was just curious.

If Blind Luck destroys her field on Saturday, would her connections consider a run at the SA Derby?

I am going out on a limb by saying none of the 3YO boys this weekend will finish in the top 10 in the derby.

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gw_bushwacker — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:17:46 GMT

longwaytomay,

No way was I knocking CD. I was pointing out that it's been the nay nay who has bashed horses in the past for those type of fractions and how stupid I thought it was to do so. He's constantly changing his sorry tune just so he can argue and vent here. This time he likes the fractions, all last year he didn't.

I like CD and her potential. Get that straight. I saw the same things you saw.

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Billy's Empire — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:16:49 GMT

Medip's just won in Dubai. 3-0 lifetime, Vale of York was 5th, 8+ legnths back, and made a 1 pace run to finish the race, nothing like the B.C when he came flying up the rail. Is mendip that good? Are Vale of York and Looking at Lucky overrrated?

Maybe Vale of York needed a tightener, but I can't imagine anything different from looking at lucky. Recency is a big factor with 3 yo colts. I will stick with Scarface, Dave in Dixie, or Sidney's Candy before I bet LAL for that reason alone.

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gw_bushwacker — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:13:02 GMT

gw bushwacker did you not watch the race ? I guess you did not notice that she was never asked for her best and won being eased at the wire. Also, it was her FIRST attempt at 2 turns. Geez.

draynay 03 Mar 2010 10:57 PM

draynay,

Did you not read what I said? My point was how ridiculous you are. With one horse those fractions are terrible but now they are ok depending on the color of the sky in your world that day.

Here's what I said about CD. I was not knocking her in any way or knocking her times. I fully expect het to improve fast.

For the record I like Christine Daees potential.

gw_bushwacker 03 Mar 2010 9:01 AM

Come join the real world sometime nay nay. If you can't handle that at least don't go putting words in my mouth just so you can vent.

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Zookeeper — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:05:00 GMT

Tim G,

Where have I expressed bitterness against owners and trainers? I apologize for whatever I have said that offended you so deeply that you feel the need to misconstruct my statements or my attitude towards them. I asked for an explanation of your comment and now, I find myself confronted with a level of hostility that is truly puzzling.

I appreciate any insight given on these blogs by people within the horseracing industry. If you disagree with what I have posted, please respond with a valid argument. A personal attack doesn't qualify as one. Peace!

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longwaytomay — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:44:32 GMT

Draynay,

The people knocking Cristine saw what they wanted to see. They looked at the final time and that was it. They didn't pay attention to the fact that she was going two turns and stretching out to 1 1/8 for the first time, or that she was never asked for her best. It was nothing more than a paid workout. Now they know what she can do and her next out will tell the tail.

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LDP — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 10:56:44 GMT

Chantal1,

I checked on DRF and Brother Bird worked five furlongs in 1.01.3, I think, at Palm Meadows. It was the 12th fastest of 33 works.

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Tim G — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:21:37 GMT

Zookeeper, I'm not a power that be, unless the owners/trainers are classified as that?

The powers that be are the BC committee and the BC doesn't go off without input from the state.

I'm terribly sorry that you're so bitter against owners and trainers that try to give you some insight, much better to speculate and make up your own stories, eh?

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draynay — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:57:56 GMT

gw bushwacker did you not watch the race ? I guess you did not notice that she was never asked for her best and won being eased at the wire. Also, it was her FIRST attempt at 2 turns. Geez.

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Chantal1 — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:13:09 GMT

What has happened to "Brother Bird"? He ran at Saratoga last summer a decent 3rd and has disappeared! Pletcher was his trainer and Dogwood Stable owns him.

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Zookeeper — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:17:42 GMT

Oak Tree who host the BC is a "Not for profit organization". They are in a better position to offer a more lucrative deal for the BC than CD who is a public company and must answer to its stockholders. The whole of California benefits from the BC being held here. Sacramento included, although they haven't done a thing for racing in this state.

Tim G,

I'm devastated that you you don't find me nice. :) The powers that be insult us constantly although I'm unsure how I have insulted them in my prior post.

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Tim G — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:59:50 GMT

Well, I'll be nicer than you are zookeeper, but if you read his comments that Satish said the BC can't make money at CD? Well CD has said they don't make money off the BC. Read up on it. Then insult the powers that be.

Find out how much money SA made off of it.

Then wait and watch whether the government in CA can subsidize it. The new will wear off, the horsemen won't go to a track that they don't ever train at and I think they proved that didn't they?

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Zookeeper — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:59:47 GMT

Satish Sanan let the cat out of the bag. I believe what he said on that radio show. No back pedalling is going to erase what Mr. Sanan candidly let us know about the way the BC is headed.

Tim G,

Please tell me what you mean by "Cal is in too much trouble financially to support the BC year after year." Am I mistaken in thinking that the BC brings money in, not the other way around? If I am, i'm sure you will set me straight. :)

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Forbidden Apple — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:22:58 GMT

The good races are scheduled for this weekend, but wait the rain is coming again so we should scratch every race. Santa Anita should be shut down and have the racing surface returned to old fashioned dirt asap. With dirt or synthetic, the Breeders Cup should be a revolving event. Other racing venues should be given the chance to have history in their backyards too.

Steve Stan, do you think it is okay for backstretch workers to have to work 7 days a week with no day off? Do you think it is okay in 2010 for some trainers paying hotwalkers $5 an hour to work and for 7 days a week? And do not say that they have a choice to quit. Many workers are here on visas or illegaly and do not have many other options. Or what about americans who love horses and horse racing, should they also be subjected to $5 an hour and 7 days a week? I have first hand knowledge here, I am not spitting hot air.

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Tim G — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:58:43 GMT

It won't happen. Satish is already backing down. If it does happen? He might as well outsource it to Mumbai like he does everything else he's involved in because it will become irrelevant, Dirt or not.

Cal is in too much trouble financially to support the BC year after year. Five years in it'll be like every other ho hum event.