Poll Question: 3-Year-Old Stallion Prospects

re: Poll Question: 3-Year-Old Stallion Prospects

Ian Tapp — Fri, 11 Jun 2010 16:22:31 GMT

Curlinlover,

Agreed, this will be interesting to revisit the subject at the end of the season as there are several potential stars emerging in this crop.

Smart Strike is an excellent sire, and I think Lookin At Lucky has a great shot to repeat as champion this season. It will be an exciting Haskell with him in it..

Ian

re: Poll Question: 3-Year-Old Stallion Prospects

CURLINLOVER — Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:43:48 GMT

Let's wait till the end of the season when we know more about these 3-year olds and what they have accompliched accumulatively this season. Then, we'll have a better idea.

I still hope for lookin at lucky! But he's CURLIN's half-brother! ITapp, forgive me for my sentimentality and lack of possible realistic outlook! :-)

However, we all know Smart Strike's succes as a sire!!!

re: Poll Question: 3-Year-Old Stallion Prospects

Ian Tapp — Mon, 07 Jun 2010 01:48:07 GMT

What aren't you sure about, nyc?

re: Poll Question: 3-Year-Old Stallion Prospects

nyc1347 — Mon, 07 Jun 2010 01:35:51 GMT

not sure i'm with you but i'll try

re: Poll Question: 3-Year-Old Stallion Prospects

Ian Tapp — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:09:16 GMT

Agreed, Cris...

We'll do this poll again at the end of the season adding the 3yos who step up. First Dude, Trappe Shot, Fly Down, Ice Box, and several others look like they could have a big year.

re: Poll Question: 3-Year-Old Stallion Prospects

Barb — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:05:30 GMT

The only horse I would breed to from this mediocre crop is D'Funnybone. And then of course I'd only use him if trying to get a sprinter.

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Somethingroyal — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 17:51:48 GMT

I'm afraid I am on board with Edward. This years Triple Crown contenders was a big bore. I'm sad to say I can't see anyone of the above choices making an impact in the breeding shed.

re: Poll Question: 3-Year-Old Stallion Prospects

Cris — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:57:32 GMT

Since you used four horses amoung that group I would use Lookin At Lucky. He is tough as they come. Very sound, they have been racing him at one and two years old and he has been beating all of the horses. I see another three year old of the year award for him coming this fall. This year will build to be better than it looks now.

re: Poll Question: 3-Year-Old Stallion Prospects

Ian Tapp — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:08:59 GMT

Stud fees of classic winners/contenders in the year they were conceived:

2009

Mine That Bird/Summer Bird (Birdstone) - $10,000 fee in 2005

Rachel Alexandra (Medaglia d'Oro) - $35,000 fee in 2005

I Want Revenge (Stephen Got Even) - $12,500 fee in 2005

2010

Super Saver (Maria's Mon) - $25,000 fee in 2006

Lookin At Lucky (Smart Strike) - $50,000 fee in 2006

Drosselmeyer (Distorted Humor) - $150,000 fee in 2006

Eskendereya (Giant's Causeway) - $300,000 fee in 2006

re: Poll Question: 3-Year-Old Stallion Prospects

Edward — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:22:36 GMT

This generation is not much of a group of horses. I'd skip them all. The Belmont race was a joke. No horse that runs 12f in 2:32 can claim to have "gotten" the distance. There are so many more talented horses from the last five years, I cannot imagine why anyone would consider this mediocre group to breed to(I i include Eskandreya who beat absolutely nothing in his two big races in average times. The fact that he won by eleven says more about the competition than the winner.)

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Maryland — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 11:02:46 GMT

Ian, Accidents Happen, people lose track that we are asking 1,100 lb animals to carry 10% of their weight a distance at 40 MPH against others on all kinds of surfaces in all kinds of conditions and hope they come back safe just to try again. Danzig had 3 starts, missed the classics, Mr. P ran 2nd in the Trial, missed the classics. They did OK in the shed. Eskendereya is the horse to breed to. He will always have the Almahmoud Cross, 2D, through both sisters Cosmah (Halo) and Natalmah (Northern D). Its a complete No Brainer actually. But on a world wide basis, in Europe, for the 3YO dominant stallion of the future, look at Workforce who comes from Sister Sarah, 14C, the dam of both Lady Angela(Nearctic) & Lady Sybil.

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Lmaris — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 06:52:12 GMT

But as for most impressive 3 year old, I'd have to go with Workforce, the Epsom Derby winner. Stakes record, and a brilliant turn of foot in the stretch in only his 3rd start of the year.

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Lmaris — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 06:50:40 GMT

There's a difference in structural abnormality and an injury. The latter is what felled Eskendereya. This is one of the weakest classes of 3 year olds in a long time, at least so far in the year. No real consistency or brilliance with the exception of Esky's short career. Maybe things will improve this fall, but doesn't look promising.

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Ian Tapp — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 01:55:28 GMT

sceptre, Trappe Shot looked awesome today, would've been nice to see him in the Woody Stephens instead of the allowance. Definitely a serious racehorse.

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sceptre — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 01:36:30 GMT

I don't think that any of the above will have much of an impact. Right now (even before today's race) it looks like Trappe Shot is the most talented of the crop, and bred well enough to make an impact at stud.

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Great Day in The Mornin' — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 01:09:37 GMT

For stamina, soundness and heart i say Lookin at Lucky. He raced in 2 legs of the Triple Crown. Eskendereya didn't make it to any leg due to his own leg unsoundness. Why take a chance and breed that anomaly into the next generation? Super Saver was worn plum out. Drosselmeyer was a fresh horse and frankly, First Dude should have been on this list.

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L.A. Albert — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 01:07:22 GMT

Lookin at Lucky as a champion juvenile has an advantage, and his dam, Private Feeling, has also produced Grade 2 winner Kensei.

re: Poll Question: 3-Year-Old Stallion Prospects

Ian Tapp — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 00:47:07 GMT

MH,

This is a blog about pedigrees, and since the above horses are future stallion prospects, it's fun to see everyone's opinion. I'm with you though, I hope all three classic winners will race as long as possible.

Ian

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MH — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 00:35:40 GMT

One thing that's wrong with racing? Here we have someone already worried about breeding success for these three-year-olds when we should care about them RACING. Oh, except the one who couldn't make it through the first half of his three-year-old year. Can't wait for those genes to propagate!!!