Reader's Question: Zenyatta & Rachel

re: Reader's Question: Zenyatta & Rachel

ZORRO — Mon, 01 Nov 2010 15:06:36 GMT

its funny how people choose to over look the fact that Queen Zenyatta has also won on dirt as well and reguardless dirt or polly slow start or fast start it only matters who crosses the line first in the end and for some amazing reason Queen Zenyatta has done it 19 times!!! Hmmmm? Not bad lol if we gave awards style points or purses to the horses who started a race as if they where going to just take off and leave all the others in their wake relaunch, atticus, first dude and just about any blushing groom horse you can name would win style points on how they have started races but my friends like everything in life there comes an end or finish and to me a horse who is a strong finisher is worth a solid bet and Queen Zenyatta is a very amazing horse with freakish like ability to finish and great breeding by no means do i take anything from the above mentioned horses atticus is a still at $4.000 stud fee secritariat/neryve oh! wow!!! Get It While its here!!!!! and up close relaunch and blushing groom bloodlines are very powerful lines for speed and first dude if he comes away from the track sound will go down in history as one of the greatest producing stallions to ever live Watch and see! I also hear that Rachel is being bred to the great Curlin thats not a bad cross at all it should produce a very nice horse if i owend Queen Zenyatta i would breed her to Concern if he is still avalible i know both horses are late finishers but theyre both great finishers plus thier bloodlines conect so well at polar ends of the pedigree and in my soul i feel like they could conect and make a SUPER HORSE and if not a super horse you could always say a horse made from that type of breeding will have a sire and dam who have spotted other horses 12 to 15 lengths in more that one race only to come back and destroy the field showind heart and most importanly! FINISH!

re: Reader's Question: Zenyatta & Rachel

Ian Tapp — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:56:02 GMT

jt,

We include dosage on TrueNicks reports as a service to breeders, although it is not factored into the rating. We did a report on nicking and dosage which you can view for free by clicking here.

The authority on dosage is Dr. Steve Roman. His website is www.chef-de-race.com

Ian

re: Reader's Question: Zenyatta & Rachel

jt — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:26:46 GMT

I was surprised at the very low dosage numbers on both Z and RA.Please tell us how you use the dosage #s in selecting mates.Also,what research is available on this subject? Thanks for your helpful breeding insights.

re: Reader's Question: Zenyatta & Rachel

PMAC14 — Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:15:38 GMT

Ian

Great stuff! I never fully understood it, but i do now.

re: Reader's Question: Zenyatta & Rachel

lynnhurst — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:43:30 GMT

Reminds me of the great John Henry.

He had all kinds of negatives but still became a legend. East Coast will dig up anything to tear Zenyatta down. By the way who were those horses Rachel beat last time? Never heard of them. LONG LIVE THE QUEEN!

re: Reader's Question: Zenyatta & Rachel

brogers — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:22:40 GMT

L Ramey,

If you like the data that the current TrueNicks report gives you to create your shortlist, stay tuned. We have been at work on enhancing the TrueNicks report with more features and information and will have a new TrueNicks report to release this coming fall which will give you even more data to use to make your breeding and racing decisions.

Thanks for using TrueNicks.

Byron Rogers

re: Reader's Question: Zenyatta & Rachel

Draynay — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:08:02 GMT

Why not just say it? Rachel is a faster horse then the slow moving Zenyatta. AND Rachel wins on dirt where it matters. Zenyatta is a poly plastic specialist and will be exposed if they are crazy enough to run her in Kentucky. She will get whipped like a pony.

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Greg J. — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:23:05 GMT

Very interesting Ian, Thank You.

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Barbara W — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:57:45 GMT

Thank you for this interesting info. I'm always eager to learn more. There should be a "Nicking for Dummies" for people like me. Thanks again!

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L Ramey — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:46:02 GMT

I will use True nicks for narrowing our choices at yearling sales (keeneland and timonium primarily), and have been pleased with it. I like to see A/B ratings with a graded wnr on the cross ,and the yearling must be a good walker and physical.

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Rachel — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:21:36 GMT

Also so remember this only takes into account the sire line and broodmare sireline "nick" % up to this point in time, and there's whole other world out there that can "nick" well...this is only a good tool.

re: Reader's Question: Zenyatta & Rachel

Ian Tapp — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 03:07:11 GMT

Haha, good one, sodapopkid!

Unfortunately the TrueNicks algorithm can't resolve the East vs. West debate. All starters and stakes winners are calculated objectively, regardless of which coast, state, or nation they come from.

Ian

re: Reader's Question: Zenyatta & Rachel

sodapopkid — Wed, 28 Jul 2010 02:56:43 GMT

Ian, Would this happen to be another form of 'East Coast Bias'.