Bwana Charlie Gives Indian Charlie Line Juvenile One-Two Punch

re: Bwana Charlie Gives Indian Charlie Line Juvenile One-Two Punch

Julie L. — Sat, 25 Dec 2010 01:19:13 GMT

In Excess (Ire.) has a couple of other sons that are showing ability at stud so I believe the Caro line will continue.

re: Bwana Charlie Gives Indian Charlie Line Juvenile One-Two Punch

john — Fri, 24 Dec 2010 23:38:14 GMT

don't know if fla. throws their studs away or big breeders buy them away from us. I've been a florida booster all my life 65 yrs and have seen most all of our stallions go to Ky. then N>Y> and Japan we're small compared to other areas and newr in the business,less repect got out great horse bred here. wish that the great runner bred would have com here to breed. Like JohnNerud said we never got a lot o respect and when a good one came along Ky. sucked them up

another thing in the Blood Horse i find alot of times when a Fla bred wins a stake they seem to forget to mention the state.

I've collected blood Horse mag. for over 50 years and glad but now that i go online i see that Fla. gets less said about(until this year when we've done so great) and never see a Ky bred forgotten

john gibson

re: Bwana Charlie Gives Indian Charlie Line Juvenile One-Two Punch

Ian Tapp — Wed, 22 Dec 2010 21:21:23 GMT

pathfinderknot,

Interesting comments. I'm not sure if Florida is any different than other places. Stud farms try to maximize the value of their stallions, and if a stallion can generate more revenue by moving to another region, then they are usually relocated accordingly.

Same with stud fees, they usually reflect commercial appeal, which means there will be values for the informed breeder who is willing to defy market fashion. Like you say, Bwana Charlie and Bring the Heat are two prime examples.

Ian

re: Bwana Charlie Gives Indian Charlie Line Juvenile One-Two Punch

pathfinderknot — Wed, 22 Dec 2010 11:33:57 GMT

I find it interesting that Florida is so quick to cast away sires based solely on commercial sales appeal. Is not the idea to breed race horses NOT sales horses. I remember when Bwana Charlie came to Sequel and everybody loved him. Three years later and a realistic(continues to decline) stud fee followed and still no none wants his offspring. Next year when he stands in Okla for $500.00 will he find love. Another interesting non commercial play from same sire line is Bring The Heat. Go figure?

re: Bwana Charlie Gives Indian Charlie Line Juvenile One-Two Punch

Robert — Tue, 21 Dec 2010 17:46:38 GMT

It is nice to see the Caro branch starting to show more signs of life. The Indian Charlie line still needs to show that there is enough quality there to win a classic race and to consistantly be a top notch sire and sire line for breeders. Indian Charlie has earned his way to his $75,000.00 fee, but to have his line continue past his sons, a few more top notch sons will have to emerge. Getting a classic distance will help his line out tremendously. Hopefully it will and the quality of mares will also continue to get better.