Derby Threat: Tapizar

re: Derby Threat: Tapizar

Billy's Empire — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 13:27:20 GMT

I pointed out Tapizar right after he won the last race on the Stars of Tomorrow card at CD, finishing more than a second faster than Santiva who had just won the GII in the race before. He also ran a second faster in the Sham than the other 2 races on the card that day at Santa Anita at the same distance, and I think they were both stakes races for older horses.? Either way, he is my top choice right now in this early 3 yo campaign. He has done everything the right way, and like trackjack said, his 2nd race, where he dumped the rider,was one of the best I have ever seen to run without a jockey.

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cuban chef de race — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 01:45:06 GMT

when tapizar won the shamm he run a 97 beyer? even on a very fast track then older horses who ran the grade two s.fernando a second slower then him ran like a 88 beyer? then the san fernando was a turtle race.tapizar ran 8.5 furlons in 1.40 and change wow beyer is more dificult when the derby is close.

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cuban chef de race — Sun, 06 Feb 2011 23:05:58 GMT

the horse with the suspect sire like holly bull has a very classic family his sire indian charly did not,aurora,kris s,danzig,Dixieland band,alydar, roberto wow be careful brothers that is class in the female family this people are not easy to decipher or the sire or the high class bottom line which one will show up at Churchill downs?i need more time there is not real value on him now any way.

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cuban chef de race — Sun, 06 Feb 2011 22:18:56 GMT

the last derby winner by a nasrullah descendant? winning colors what a filly and from Seattle slew?swell in 1984 w.colors won in 1988 patterns do no last forever 1929 gelding?funny cide,dosage over 4.00 real quite,2 preps the last 4.but when you compare breeding with the Kentucky derby this is a different ball game you are in my territory.you want a mach race between tapizar and spend a buck? i hope not,a.p.indy won the belmont and did not sire a derby winner his half brother summer squall won the Preakness and did sire a derby winner and is the broodmare sire of a belmont winner so what the derby is unique in the way pedigree can be interpret,ribot line 1 winner last 30 years why?,menetier 1 winner last 30 years why?,nasrullah 2 winners last 30 years?,Minnesota mac 1 winner last 30 years why?h.t.reason 3 why?buckpasser 3? n.dancer 4 is okey but the the rise a native line has 14!! winners why?, because we are in the speed and class era and the great mr prospector own both of course with the right female family no with whitesburg,v.appeal,m.t.livermore,clever trick etc etc as some pedigree fans want to let me know.

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cuban chef de race — Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:14:08 GMT

one thing is a dam by d.minister out of a wild again and c.Satan mare name {carols Christmas}a former claimer than a dam by d.minister out of a b.groom and a roberto mare,tapizar is very talented but with carols christmas remember Olimpio? and others nice colts who ran before in other derby's that also had c.Christmas in their female family? all of them did flop in the Kentucky derby,think about it tapizar will need a 48 and change pace to have a chance this is what see and i see well.

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Ian Tapp — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 15:49:58 GMT

Tapizar has worked twice since the Sham. He worked 9 days after the race (typical for Asmussen horses), going an easy half mile in :50 2/5.

A week later, 1/31, he went a solid 5f in 1:00 1/5.

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Matthew W — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 05:39:50 GMT

Serious horses win their debuts by 10 1/2 over two turns in a 12 horse field at Churchill--then travel cross country to win like a champ at Santa Anita--Tapizar looks like any kind--he belongs at or near the top of the list of serious race horses of this crop....

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cuban chef de race — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 00:02:30 GMT

people the problem with tapizar is in his tale fimale family deputy minister not include nine furlongs is what i see right now and dialed in has mt.livermoore as his second broodmare sire ten furlongs or ten blocks i see you soon and keep talking.

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trackjack — Thu, 03 Feb 2011 15:34:58 GMT

Thanks, ITapp for the information.

I am not a trainer and Tapizar's action on this day may mean nothing, but take a look at his two turn Mdn. race on 9/19 at Monmouth when he dumped his rider out of the gate. The way he ran, riderless, says to me he is intelligent, aggressive and not afraid to go up between horses.

With his 2 yo foundation, a win over the CD track and his continued improvement, Tapizar is high on my list.

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John — Wed, 02 Feb 2011 16:28:51 GMT

It doesn't seem that there are any other horses out west to challenge him. If he stays fit, he will at least get there. It is hard to judge speed on that track right now but he does glide over it. I like the aggressive schedule he will take leading up to the Derby beginning with the Bob Lewis Feb 12 then San Felipe in March, SA Derby on April 9th. I think with those under his belt distance will be the only question.

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Ian Tapp — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:55:57 GMT

So you want To Honor and Serve? Maybe I'll write about him this week. I was contemplating Wilkinson as well.

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JerseyTom — Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:37:04 GMT

Will we be reading one of these on To Honor and Serve?

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Ian Tapp — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 05:21:10 GMT

Byron,

Another great example of affinities holding up across a sire line. More examples are Casino Drive (Mineshaft/Deputy Minister), To Honor and Serve (Bernardini/Deputy Minister), and Minister Eric (Old Trieste/Deputy Minister).

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Byron Rogers — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:04:23 GMT

While he may find it tough going on the front unless left alone, this nick is a further extension of AP Indy with Deputy Minister mares (A++) with horses like Rags to Riches and Telling recent representatives.

Byron

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Householder — Thu, 20 Jan 2011 01:02:33 GMT

I expect to see some "Winning Colors" type fractions in the Santa Anita Derby this year. 22 1/5, 45 3/5, 109 2/5 and 1:47 4/5.