Free TrueNicks Reports for Travers Stakes

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Ian Tapp — Mon, 29 Aug 2011 17:51:34 GMT

Hi Sandy,

You're right to look at the bottom half as it's certainly equally as important as the top half. However, we concentrate on sires because they are statistically much easier to quantify (they sire more foals than mares produce). Also, breeders have greater access to stallions. Many can breed a mare to Point Given per season, but to acquire Eversmile (Coil's dam) for breeding purposes would be a much more complex proposition, with a max of 1 foal per season.

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Sandy Snider — Sat, 27 Aug 2011 00:27:38 GMT

Umm, what's all the fuss about Coil being by Point Given? Not that I have anything against Point Given (I don't), but isn't it still prudent to look at the bottom half of a pedigree?

Coil will probably get my $2, but not because of his sire. His dam is by Theatrical, and Theatrical, imo, walks on water.

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Lmaris — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:36:29 GMT

(internet connection went down so not sure post went through so reposting in different form)

Not 1st father-son winning pair. Not even first pair in your family, nor are you 1st Grandfather-Father-son trifecta

Summer Bird (2009) & Birdstone (2004)

Point Given (2001) & Thunder Gulch (1995)

Coronado's Quest (1998) & Forty Niner (1988)

and others...

Trifecta:

Will's Way (1996) & Easy Goer (1989) & Alydar (1978)

re: Free TrueNicks Reports for Travers Stakes

Lmaris — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 17:27:53 GMT

Point Given - while I too think Coil is the horse to beat in this year's Travers Stakes, he will not be in the first father-son winning pair.

The most recent was 2009's Summer Bird whose sire Birdstone won in 2004 proving his Belmont win was no fluke.

But you were the son of a Father-Son winning pair. Thunder Gulch won in 1992, so you could be in a Grandfather-Father-Son trifecta.

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Byron Rogers — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:07:35 GMT

Point Given,

It has already been done - Forty Niner & Coronado's Quest both did the Haskell/Travers double....if Coil gets it done you and Thunder Gulch would join Alydar, Easy Goer and Will's Way in a Travers sireline trifecta also.

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Ian Tapp — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:53:14 GMT

Jersey Tom,

He's never met his son. He's a domesticated horse. He impregnated Coil's mom when she visited the farm and never saw her again.

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JerseyTom — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 15:49:41 GMT

Point Given, can you provide me with insight on Coil's attributes?

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Point Given — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:52:31 GMT

Ian Tapp,

If there's a will, there's a way. Thx for the red carpet welcome.

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Ian Tapp — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 14:26:25 GMT

Point Given,

Wow, what an honor having you comment on the blog. I didn't realize you had internet access.

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Point Given — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 07:34:18 GMT

See you at the winner's circle.

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Point Given — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 07:32:10 GMT

My son Coil will win the Travers.Probably the first Father-Son combination to win the Haskell and Traver.Run well my boy.

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Joe Urbonowicz — Wed, 24 Aug 2011 21:29:13 GMT

Redemption is a powerful force and I think that Jose Valdivia has to have the ride of his life on the front end from the 4 post. Lets face it if Dialed In or Animal Kingdom were in the Travers, thats who we all would be betting on and the fact that they are not leaves only one horse with a monster late kick and that is Ruler On Ice not Stay Thirsty after winning the Jim Dandy and not racing anyone. Ruler On Ice gets to the front ,he is gone.