Saint Ballado Sire Line: So Near, So Far

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Dale — Sun, 05 May 2013 12:23:29 GMT

Glorious Song's amazing debut maiden race was an indicator of the great horse she was to become. She blew the 1st turn at Woodbine, wound up near the outside rail and still won, coming home in 1-09 4, 1 sec off Kennedy Road's track record. Some things you never forget!

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lexie — Wed, 10 Apr 2013 07:10:13 GMT

i have a son out of saint ballado he is amazing!!

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Ian Tapp — Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:28:07 GMT

Both matings look good on paper. Alphabet Soup has a good record with Northern Dancer line mares, and the Cozzene sire line is good with Gone West line mares, with Alphabet Soup himself having a stakes-placed horse plus 3 other winners from 6 starters.

The challenge comes down to the physical match--will the mares fit the sire to produce athletic offspring? As the broodmare owner, this will a key consideration. Best of luck with the matings.

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susan miller — Sat, 16 Mar 2013 13:49:56 GMT

I have purchased a mare by Imperial Falcon - her name is Imperial Dance & I am going to breed her to Alphabet Soup - she only earned $139 as she got hit with a rock - I don't know much aboutthis horse only that her sire sold for 8.25 mil - her foals have all sold for 25k or better and they were part breds - the other mare Famous Woman was a race track rescue and she will be bred to Alphabet soup also as I ran their pedigrees on True Nicks and one owas an A+ & the other an A - is this the right thing to do?

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Young Liam — Sat, 03 Mar 2012 20:25:00 GMT

Looking to buy 2 or 3 YO by Sunriver. Please pass on any info regarding potential sellers.

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Jeff Jeans — Mon, 13 Feb 2012 15:28:05 GMT

I have been researching the bloodlines of Saint Ballado and more specifically his Dam Ballade. When you look at what she has done, it is incredible. In 2011 I bred an Imperial Falcon Mare (Gentilly Sunrise) to Run Production (both in Louisiana) and am excited to see the foal due in about 3 weeks as Ballade is on both top and bottom. I am impressed with Run Production who has mainly been bred to a small limited group of mares. Now that he has moved to another farm, I believe his opportunities to "prove himself as something more than a useful sire, will only increase. His current AEI right now is 1.77 when bred to mares with CL of 115. His average runner earns 70K, a great value with a 3500 stud fee.

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Clint Goodrich — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:52:59 GMT

If anyone really wants to know about or write about (hellooo, Alan Porter), what a brilliant horse Saint Ballado truly was, you should write to me for specifics that just don't show up on paper.

clint@clintgoodrich.com

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Caren Goodrich — Tue, 17 Jan 2012 18:05:29 GMT

What is unknown to most but known to those who were around Saint Ballado, he was a fantastically talented runner, possibly as talented as Devils Bag. So Saint Ballado was only a "lesser brother" on paper. My husband trained and owned Saint Ballado, and I galloped him. Believe me, Saint Ballado was a stone cold runner, his career was shortened by injury. That he sired these great horses is no surprise to me.

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Jeans — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 06:34:03 GMT

Awaiting a run production foal out of a imperial falcon mare, ballade is grand dam on both sides.

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LAZMANNICK — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 03:27:17 GMT

Ballade, the dam of Devil’s Bag, Glorious Song and Saint Ballado also produced an $8 million dollar auction colt by Northern Dancer called Imperial Falcon, a horse that won two minor races in three lifetime starts before he was retired. Imperial Falcon was less than average as a sire.

In addition to Rahy and Singspeil, Glorious Song had 11 other foals, none of which did much of prominence on the track. One of her daughters, Chansonnette, produce a Group One winner in Japan named Danon Chantilly. A daughter, Morn of Song, produced a Group One winner in France. Her son Rakeen sired Jet Master, a five time Group One winner in South Africa. And a daughter, Ring of Music, produced Campanologist, a multi stakes winner including two Group One wins in Germany.

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Diana Stuart — Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:07:22 GMT

Pedigree Ann, I didn't mean to imply that Argentina doesn't have top notch horses and breeders - they do, and I love Candy Ride! I meant that Holy Ground has not been offered much of an opportunity there. Given his rare pedigree, and the fact that his genetic 1/2 sibs are few and far between or dying early, I have to wonder what he might do if brought back here and given a decent quality book of mares. By the way, the gorgeous photo of Saint Ballado sure shows where Holy Ground got his conformation. (diastu in tempe)

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Pedigree Ann — Mon, 19 Sep 2011 15:11:17 GMT

Diana, Argentina is not "obscurity." We got Candy Ride, Forli, Gentlemen, Lord at War, and Invasor from the Argentine breeding industry. They breed just about the best runners on their continent (although Brazil is closing in) and their breeders are generally more expert in evaluating pedigrees and potential than ours. They have to be; they buy stallions primarily to service their own mares, not to be ATM machines churning out income.

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HB — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 15:27:10 GMT

we have two Saint Stephen yearling colts....hoping

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Diana Stuart — Sat, 17 Sep 2011 00:43:15 GMT

Let us not forget Holy Ground! Out of La Ville Rouge, this lovely chestnut stakes winner is a half to Barbaro. I've always felt that with a good book of mares, he would sire really good ones. He hasn't had the chance inspite of winner Boltzapper and placer Eric the Ram. He was shipped to Argentina into undeserved obscurity. Bring him home! Those genes are valuable!

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serena's song — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:37:42 GMT

Glorious Song did indeed produce Rahy and Singspiel. Rahy's daughter's are much soft after: Serena's Song, Tranquility Lake, Mariah's Storm to name a few. Serena's Song is the dame of Grand Reward, who, when crossed with Southern Halo mares(in Argentina, where he has shuttled and now lives) has gotten the likes of Chuck Berry(ARG), Angiolo(ARG), Toruk(ARG) who are all Graded Stakes winners. So in that respect, the line is living on. Tranquility Lake produced After Market and Mariah's Storm- Giant's Causeway. So, there is some representation there. Never realised just how tragic the circumstances are for the males, perhaps that is why the females are shining thru? Hope to see more stars from this line in the future. Thanks for the interesting article!

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Mary Anna — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:37:42 GMT

Read this yesterday, and made me pay attention when I saw this squib on bloodhorse.com: www.bloodhorse.com/.../saint-stephen-sires-first-winner

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John T — Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:10:27 GMT

Glorious Song was a great credit to Canadian racing and it was good to see her produce some good horses among them Singspiel who was by In The Wings. Although Singspiel won important races like the Canadian International and the Coronation Cup my own favourite race of him was when he ran a gallant second under Gary Stevens in the 1996 Breeders Cup Turf at Woodbine to his stablemate Pilsudski with the more than useful Nashwan colt Swain back in third. Getting back to the subject, Saint Ballado it was sad to hear about his son Saint Liam before he had a chance to prove himself as a stallion.

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Paulina — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:34:14 GMT

Glorious Song produced Rahy and Singspiel. She's also the dam of Morn of Song, who produced Mezzo Soprano. Rakeen is another of her offspring. She was an excellent producer, as well as a great racehorse.

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Karen in Texas — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:19:21 GMT

I believe Glorious Song was the dam of Rahy and Singspiel and others I can't remember off the top of my head.

I had always hoped Captain Bodgit would do well at stud. He was as good on the track as any 3-year old in 1997 and had that exciting come-from-behind style. Without Saint Liam, the Halo line is apparently not going to have significant representation.

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Kevin A Burke — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:02:19 GMT

Far to many of Sunriver's colt progeny are being gelded on the advice of the trainer. Their sale prices have not been "at the top" so to speak, so they are not given the same million dollar treatment that a lesser but more expensive horse would be given. This is a loss to breeding and racing. Hopefully, one or two will make it through intact, and contibute to the racing/breeding future of the Thoroughbred.

On another note, that horse or horses will probably come from Korea, for they seem to have bought at least 50% of the Sunriver's that have been placed at auction in the past year.

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LIVEWIRE — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:46:50 GMT

WOW

What a star crossed family.

What did Glorious Song produce as she was the first of the full siblings with racing success having been the champion older mare prior to Devil's Bag? In fact, her race record made Devil's Bag's subsequent loss of form as a three year old all the more puzzling.

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Will — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:57:45 GMT

It is tragic and sad. Seems that it "wasn't meant to be". Saint Liam was indeed a great one.

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DSHOT — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:31:47 GMT

Maybe their is still a Saint Liam colt that will pop up and continue the legacy....Saint Liam was and would have continued to be a great sire.

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Michelle — Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:37:55 GMT

Wow, I hadn't realized how many male members of that family had met a tragic end. It's kind of interesting to think about, from a morbid point of view. What about his female descendants- have any of them produced a good sire?