Second Season Stallion Stars

re: Second Season Stallion Stars

Jim Canada — Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:42:09 GMT

I truly appreciate all the comments!

As for Turkoman and certain "affinities" some strains have for others, I lean on such forums as these.

That, to say that I recently bought a daughter, Turkola ( out of Pocket Liner by Full Pocket). She is unraced and had foals out of a couple of stallions that never did too much.

I bought her specifically to put with an A P Indy ( Indygo Mountain, A P INDY out of Mountain girl by Mountain Cat).

Aside from being an exceptionally good looking granddaughter of Alydar the mare has no preferred assets.

I think very strongly that A P INDY will change that.

re: Second Season Stallion Stars

Jim Canada — Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:39:50 GMT

I truly appreciate all the comments!

As for Turkoman and certain "affinities" some strains have for others, I lean on such forums as these.

That, to say that I recently bought a daughter, Turkola ( out of Pocket Liner by Full Pocket). She is unraced and had foals out of a couple of stallions that never did too much.

I bought her specifically to put with an A P Indy ( Indygo Mountain, A P INDY out of Mountain girl by Mountain Cat).

Aside from being an exceptionally good looking granddaughter of Alydar the mare has no preferred assets.

I think very strongly that A P INDY will change that.

re: Second Season Stallion Stars

Alan Porter — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 15:12:01 GMT

I was just a little cautious with Hard Spun being a quite tall horse out of a Turkoman mare, which somewhat reminded me of Point Given. Of course, for all that he's been a very solid stallion, there is a difference in being a son of Thunder Gulch and a son of Danzig!

What's interesting is that Point Given did do very well with Seattle Slew (who has some pedigree ties to Turkoman), and we've yet to have a Hard Spun stakes winner on the cross (although there are only 10 starters for him out of Seattle Slew line mares). I've got a feeling he might work over A.P. Indy, and he's already had a stakes winner out of a mare by that horse's half-brother, Summer Squall.

re: Second Season Stallion Stars

sceptre — Fri, 03 Aug 2012 04:23:47 GMT

Let's take a breath, and not be so quick to name Hard Spun best of those retired in 2008. It's also still far from a given that he'll retrospectively be known as a successful stallion, let alone any from this group-at this point I'm not too impressed with any of them.

re: Second Season Stallion Stars

Weekend Surprise — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 21:30:46 GMT

I know this is a little of the topic , but why the disinterest of I'll Have Another by American breeders ??

Everyone is dying to see a Triple Crown Winner and the typical breeder seems to be interested in speed type sires , just turn a profit for win early type horses !

If the goal is to start breeding sturdier animals capable of making more than eight lifetime starts and capable of winning at Classic distances , something has to change!

I was looking at the Darley stallion imported from Austrailia named Lonhro . Is it just me or are breeders not interested in a durable proven sire that maybe able to bring some stamina and fresh blood to breeders looking to improve their mares ?

re: Second Season Stallion Stars

Weekend Surprise — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 21:44:20 GMT

Yes Ian , that would have been nice !

Hard Spun seemed to me as a no-brainer ! Hard Spun being from one of the last crops of Danzig and his talent as a Brilliant/Intermediate/Classic type runner was very appealing to breeders .

re: Second Season Stallion Stars

Ian Tapp — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 15:16:00 GMT

Weekend Surprise,

You should have bet that in Vegas!

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Weekend Suprise — Wed, 01 Aug 2012 03:59:54 GMT

I knew that Hard Spun would be the best stallion in his crop !!!

re: Second Season Stallion Stars

Alan Porter — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:54:57 GMT

Thanks d_k. Obviously the heat had my mind playing tricks!

Lawyer Ron has, to me anyway, been something of a surprise as a stallion. He's been very solid despite not being by an established sire of sires (Langfuhr is a very, very solid stallion, but you wouldn't actually go looking for one to make a sire), and from a really light female line (although if you go back seven generations, you do hit Uvira II, ancestress of A.P. Indy, et al). However, he's been a lot better than some theoretically stronger prospects, and his affinity for Storm Cat line mares (50% of his stakes horses on than nick) would have been interesting to follow. Another example of just how hard it is to predict these stallions.

Good luck with Bandit Interceptor! I'll keep a look out for him.

re: Second Season Stallion Stars

Ian Tapp — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 20:29:48 GMT

d_k,

Thanks for noticing that. I made the change in the article.

re: Second Season Stallion Stars

d_k — Thu, 26 Jul 2012 15:13:49 GMT

Mr Porter, I am very surprised at you Lawyer Ron had two crops before he passed away.I know for sure because i have a very big 17.1 hand huge monster of a colt named Bandit Interceptor being trained by Mr J.J Pletcher in ocala.He is being pointed for his first start at 3. Thankyou Mr Porter

re: Second Season Stallion Stars

Jockeygirl — Wed, 25 Jul 2012 22:15:26 GMT

I hope Curlin can get some good runners!