VIDEO: Key Ancestors Report Strategies with Alan Porter

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Loren — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 15:48:00 GMT

Are you doing any evaluation of performance quarter horses or just thoroughbred racing lines?

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Ian Tapp — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 20:27:43 GMT

Hi Susan,

It's hard to say without running the actual reports, as each report will vary according to the mare's female side (each Gone West or Imperial Falcon mare will have a unique set of ancestors based on her own pedigree).

However, Alphabet Soup has a good record as an outcross stallion with the entire Northern Dancer line, hence the TrueNicks "A" rating, and the Cozzene sire line has a very good record with Gone West mares, hence the "A++".

Judging by a couple reports I've seen for mares with similar backgrounds to Imperial Falcon, Prince John and Sir Gaylord could be positive ancestors, which are both in Alphabet Soup via Cozzene.

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susan — Wed, 20 Feb 2013 17:34:36 GMT

what about nicking alphabet soup with gone west mare? and Alphabet Soup with an Imperial Falcon mare? Got a A++ on the first mare and A on the second one - just curious?

thanks

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Ian Tapp — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:46:28 GMT

Hi Kadir,

Glad to hear you liked the video. Regarding Bekmezbey, he is in The Jockey Club database and therefore TrueNicks reports, but according to The Jockey Club his stakes wins are non-blacktype. Nevertheless, he was obviously a top class runner and is certainly one of the main successes so far for the broad Storm Cat/Storm Cat cross.

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Beetle — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:39:09 GMT

I think that congrats & Malibu moon would fit perfectly on top of storm cat & the mr. Prospector line.

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kadir — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 23:04:32 GMT

Hi Guys,

Thanks for this video. After i watch the video i download your sample which perfect explanations for breeders.

I am from Turkey. I lived 4 years in TX and 5 months NY at 2012. I am back my country and try to succesful horse business. When i read your report about Oregon Lady which i found one missing information about Turkish horse name is BEKMEZBEY(Perfect Storm-Power Cat/Mountain Cat) this horse 7 times run won 6 times and grade 1 Turkish Gran Criterium, GRade II Sakarya Stakes, GRade II International Queen Elizabeth.II, and unname GR III races in Turkey. I hope maybe it will be help your TrueNicks system. If you want to know anythings about Turkish races you can send me email at anytime. probably i will be in KY for watch Run for Roses race and Belmont Stakes. I have one mare who believed to preganet Include hoping deliver baby second week of April name is PEACHEZ'N'KREME also. I bought last November Keeneland sales hip 1255

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Ian Tapp — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 18:37:21 GMT

Hi sceptre,

Yes, if the related mares are overall less related to the subject mare, then the Ancestor Contributions will be lower.

The relatedness of the mare and generational distance are what determines the Ancestor Contribution. For ancestors appearing in the sires of starters produced from a mare that is 10% related to the subject mare, the scores are multiplied by 10%. For a mare that is 20% related to the subject mare, the scores are multiplied by 20%. This way, more related mares have a greater impact on the Ancestor Scores.

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sceptre — Wed, 13 Feb 2013 02:40:51 GMT

Hi Guys,

I'm glad you chose Oregon Lady for use as example, because it identified for me some areas of misconception. So, here we go again-I thought I had it all grasped, but now see I hadn't...My question deals with Dam Relatedness to Subject Mare as it relates to Ancestor Contribution and Ancestor Score. As example, let's say that there's an accross the board low level of relatedness (to subject mare) among your selected group of related mares. Would this fact factor into your scores for Ancestor Contribution and Ancestor Score, or are these scores independent of the % of relatedness the group of related mares had to the subject mare?

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ribots funnycide — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:34:49 GMT

actually perfect soul only ran on turf,but has several dirt wnrs out of mares by sons of Mr. P. golden soul may be only horse out of mare by Mr. P himself. Thx

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ribots funnycide — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 04:21:29 GMT

Alan what do you think of golden soul for the derby by perfect soul i think the only saddlers well how was a graded stakes who 1 on dirt not a being surprise being out of a secretariat mare out of a mare by another triple crown wnr all that over a mr. p mare rated a++ out of a silver hawk graded wnr.golden soul developed quick 2nd n 1st @ cd by head @ a mile then 1st by 7 @8.5@ cd no pace n lecomte an he was last the farther the better an never been on turf all dirt mr p