Pulpit Line Prospers

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re: Pulpit Line Prospers

Charles McGee — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:58:43 GMT

What do you think of the Grindstone/Birdstone line?

re: Pulpit Line Prospers

Alfonso — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:40:48 GMT

The best spanish 3 year old miler is called As de Trebol, and is a son of Tapit. He was imported as a yearling. He won the Poule prep by 4 and a half lengths very easily, and his trainer has nominated him in St James Palace Stakes (G1 in england) He will win the spanish poule and then go for a G1 in Europe.

www.pedigreequery.com/as+de+trebol2

It is quite interesting to mark that Ap Indy has not succeded here as a stallion, but it seems that Tapit can produce grass performers.

In the following link you can see As de Trebol winning the Gran Criterium last year. It is a pity that I cannot show you the poule prep race, because is much more astonishing than this victory:

www.dailymotion.com/.../x6zg5q_20081005-n-387-lz-gran-criterium-2a_sport

re: Pulpit Line Prospers

brogers — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 20:24:09 GMT

There have been four noted sons of Personal Ensign retire to stud notably Miner's Mark, Our Emblem, Proud and True and Traditionally and in general, outside of Our Emblem siring a KY Derby winner, a feat most stallions never achieve, they have been disappointing given the opportunity that they have seen. While she is certainly no Pocahontas, we are talking about one of the greatest mares to ever look through a bridle and her full brother did a reasonable job given the opportunity that he had. It is a fair comment, but I wouldn't be too dogmatic about this being an indication of the chances of Parading at stud.

I would love to see someone in Argentina pick up a horse like this and give him a shot down there, much like Indygo Shiner. The A.P Indy sireline looks to suit that part of the world and Personal Ensign's grand-dam Dorine was a freak in that country and there is a lot of the bloodlines that have worked in this family and Parading's pedigree, native to the bloodlines found in Argentina.

re: Pulpit Line Prospers

Alan Porter — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:35:33 GMT

To answer the various questions here: Of course the percentage of stallions that are truly successful is very small. In the case of Personal Ensign's sons, Miner's Mark was not a very prepossessing individual, and was probably something of a "plodder." Our Emblem never won a stakes, although multiple grade one placed, and was a late-closing sprinter, a type that often disappoints as a stallion. Proud and True was a fairly modest runner as stallions go. There is another brother to this trio called Traditionally (grade three winner in the U.S.), who has stood in Europe and New Zealand. Not a great success, but has sired a graded winner in both hemispheres.

Corinthian looks a very interesting prospect on paper, especially given that female line!

Mineshaft hasn't yet come up to expectations, although Casino Drive is probably a very good horse when sound. Mineshaft was something of a late-developer too, and one couldn't completely write him off yet. It would be no surprise to see him come up with a very good horse (he does have five first crop stakes winners now, and Cool Coal Man or Coal Play might still pop up and win a good race).

re: Pulpit Line Prospers

Tim Holland — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:56:20 GMT

While the Pulpit line does appear to be prospering right now, I just wonder if it will survive the test of time.

Pulpit showed huge promise on the track, and could well have been a great racehorse had he not got hurt in the Derby. However, sons Tapit,Pyro,Sky Mesa, Purge, Corinthian and Essense Of Dubai all also showed great promise but in the end were disappointing.

As sires Sky Mesa is doing well now, but the jury is still out, the same must be said for Stroll. But where would Tapit be without the fillies Stardom Bound, War Echo and Laragh ?

I'm not convinced.

re: Pulpit Line Prospers

Bellwether — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:39:17 GMT

TAPIT IS THE KING!!!...

re: Pulpit Line Prospers

Pamela R. Kafton — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:30:22 GMT

You forgot to mention Tapit, the sire of eclipse-award winning Stardom Bound, Laragh, etc. He's a sensational young sire!!

re: Pulpit Line Prospers

Slew.em.All — Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:04:41 GMT

Fantastic!...Parading is a beautiful Horse,glad he finally won a Graded Race.Slews reign continues.And let's not forget Tapit's tremendous start & success at stud.I had high hopes for Stroll,let's hope he comes back home sooner than later...Your thoughts on Corinthian's upcoming babies?.And do you consider Mineshaft's first 2 crops to race a bust?...thx.

re: Pulpit Line Prospers

Justine — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:36:42 GMT

Someone said that stallions descending from Personal Ensign have not been the best stallions. Our Emblem hasn't done half bad siring War Emblem, who is doing well in Japan despite the very small crop sizes, and Proud and True has True Metropolitan but in general all of PE's sons haven't done much.

What's your take on that?