Coolmore Has Options with New Purchase Sea Siren

re: Coolmore Has Options with New Purchase Sea Siren

ports — Sun, 26 May 2013 00:59:35 GMT

Empire Maker should also be a good cross

re: Coolmore Has Options with New Purchase Sea Siren

Ian Tapp — Tue, 21 May 2013 19:46:54 GMT

Thomas C,

To raise Danehill and sons/Success Express from a "D" to an "A++" would take a remarkable run of new stakes winners. However, Fastnet Rock/Success Express may eventually break off as its own nick should there be more starters and/or stakes winners on that more specific cross.

re: Coolmore Has Options with New Purchase Sea Siren

Thomas C — Tue, 14 May 2013 08:06:34 GMT

The "D" rating isn't a problem - next time we see that cross it will likely be "A++.

re: Coolmore Has Options with New Purchase Sea Siren

Ian Tapp — Mon, 13 May 2013 05:48:53 GMT

Hi Karen,

The "D" TrueNicks rating for Sea Siren doesn't describe her own quality (which is of course very high), but rather the strike rate of the cross that she is bred on. Danehill and sons have just four stakes winners from 151 starters out of Success Express mares, and two of them--Excites and Tickets--are out of the same mare. So the overall rate of success is below average given the sire line and broodmare sire line involved, despite there still being some high quality stakes winners bred on the cross.

Finding stats to help determine Sea Siren's mating shouldn't be a problem. For example, there are quite a few broodmares with Danehill, Success Express, and/or Royal Academy in their pedigrees. These mares' collective produce records create the data in the Key Ancestors Report.

re: Coolmore Has Options with New Purchase Sea Siren

Karen — Sat, 11 May 2013 17:05:15 GMT

I notice Sea Siren herself is a Truenicks "D". She is obviously an excellent racehorse, so something about her does not fit the Truenicks model very well. Is it more difficult to find an appropriate mating for her using Truenicks than for a mare of similar racing ability but rated Truenicks "A"?

re: Coolmore Has Options with New Purchase Sea Siren

Byron Rogers — Fri, 10 May 2013 18:54:40 GMT

With both Sadler's Wells and Miswaki scoring so highly on the Key Ancestor report you would have to think that despite it being a "fish to fowl" mating, that Galileo would have to be considered.

re: Coolmore Has Options with New Purchase Sea Siren

sceptre — Fri, 10 May 2013 03:13:58 GMT

Nice of you to include the video. Just a lovely looking filly. It's nice to get the reminder that there is some rhyme and reason to all this, as she has the look of so many other really top performers. Nice balance and athleticism, but that shoulder (scapula)-so many good ones share it.

re: Coolmore Has Options with New Purchase Sea Siren

John T — Fri, 10 May 2013 02:05:07 GMT

It is hoped that Sea Siren will indeed run at Royal Ascot now that Black Caviar has been retired. With Kentucky Derby winner Animal Kingdom also due to race there it gives it a good international ring. It brings back some good memories of other Kentucky Derby winners who ran at Royal Ascot like the 1928 winner Reigh Count who finished second in the 1929 Ascot Gold Cup to the 7 year old Invershin who was winning it for the second time. And in what was one of the greatest final furlongs in the long history of racing at Royal Ascot the 1935 Amercian Triple Crown winner Omaha just got beat by the filly Quaahed in the Gold Cup of 1936. When Sea Siren retires I would like to see her go to High Chaparral but I won't be disapointed if it is Pierro.