Dehere and Storm Cat Emerge as Profitable Duo

re: Dehere and Storm Cat Emerge as Profitable Duo

gustavo — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:26:44 GMT

What about Dehere's son Graeme hall has broodmare sire.anu thoughts on him

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cajun rain — Sun, 10 May 2009 21:40:45 GMT

what would be a good cross for a filly out of stormin fever,a storm

cat son.

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sceptre — Sat, 09 May 2009 22:00:41 GMT

Supposition 1- the X chromosome contains genes which impact cardiac volume.

Supposition 2- Princequillo's and Blue Larkspur's X chromosome contained genes which positively impacted on cardiac volume.

Supposition 3- (while Bar Nothing did indeed inherit Blue Larkspur's X chromosome) Blade Of Time then inherited Blue Larkspur's X chromosome (rather than Bar Nothing's dam's X)-Kerala inherited (from Blade Of Time) Bar Nothing's Blue Larkspur X, rather than *Sickle's-Damascus received Kearla's Blade Of Times X, rather than *My Babu's- Sister Dot inherited Sword Game's Damascus X, rather than Bill and I's X----Dehere then inherited either Sister Dot's Sword Game X, or Secretariat's Somethingroyal X-but not both. ..Similar can be said (traced) re-the supposedly + *Princequillo X chromosome... And Mr. Chua states with conviction that Sister Dot IS a large heart (or x-factor carrier)...Rather than this being fact, it appears infinitely more likely that it is fiction. Yes, it is remotely possible that his conclusion is accurate-this is far from being a likely reality (as it was stated).

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Kerby Chua — Fri, 08 May 2009 07:04:08 GMT

Another point to consider about the broodmare siring ability of Dehere is that, his dam Sister Dot is what we can consider a double-copy mare. A large heart or x-factor carrier thru her sire and dam. Sister Dot's sire Secretariat, whose dam Somethingroyal is by a large heart stallion Princequillo. Her dam Sword Game is by another large heart carrier Damascus. Damascus' 3rd dam Bar Nothing is by Blue Larkspur another noted large heart stallion.

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Kerby Chua — Fri, 08 May 2009 06:24:52 GMT

Brogers... Dehere is on his way to become one of the elite broodmare sires. He has shown great affinity with the three major and most influential sire lines (Mr. Prospector, Seattle Slew and Northern Dancer). In addition to Take Charge Lady, he is also the broodmare sire of Midnight Lute (2x Breeders Cup Sprint Champ) by Real Quiet another Mr. Prospector tail-male line.

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Byron Rogers — Fri, 08 May 2009 02:30:41 GMT

Fifty....more than likely you already knew but the colt out of the Rubiano mare is a B+ but is bred on the same cross as Dehere's best North American representative in Take Charge Lady. Dehere and French Deputy probably both would have had profitable careers had they remained in North America. It is interesting that French Deputy has done well in Japan while Dehere never fired a single shot!

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FiftyYearsPlus — Fri, 08 May 2009 00:42:13 GMT

Based on watching my two homebred Dehere 2yo's I have in training now (colt out of my G1 placed producing Rubiano mare and a filly out of my Raise A Native family mare whose damside includes the dams of the two time champions Bed O'Roses and Challedon), be prepared for the shockwave of Dehere's first US sired crop in a decade.

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Jackman — Thu, 07 May 2009 23:06:19 GMT

Sky Mesa might work nicely with Dehere as he combines both the AP indy as well as the Storm Cat. That would triple up Secretariat

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Byron Rogers — Thu, 07 May 2009 20:25:52 GMT

Michael....There is no reason I couldn't see it working the other way. Dehere is getting on a little but it is worth a try. You might also look at horses like Pulpit (A.P Indy) and his sons (I mention Pulpit as there is a high class Storm Cat line horse or two in his female line) and also a horse like Proud Citizen (Gone West).

Kerby....I hope a high class filly is on the way! I bred in partnership a filly called Tale of Love (AUS). She is by Tale of the Cat out of a Dehere mare. She has won a touch over A$175,000 in her two year old career but it yet to win a stakes race. Hopefully that will come next season as a three year old.

Thanks for commenting

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da3hoss — Thu, 07 May 2009 19:44:35 GMT

Here's a little gem if I can explain it right: Deputy Minister is broodmare sire of Sherriff's Deputy,the dam of Curlin, Vice Regent is sire of Deputy Minister.

Now, Smart Strike ios the sire of Curlin, but he is also the broodmare sire of Mine That Bird, and Vice Regent is the Broodmare Sire of Aspenelle, the dam of Mining My Own, MTB's dam, the same cross as Curlin...and of course MTB has storm Bird on top.

Now, somebody else go put that together better than me, but I was impressed!

re: Dehere and Storm Cat Emerge as Profitable Duo

Kerby Chua — Thu, 07 May 2009 17:36:00 GMT

Surprising to see that Storm Cat sons are working well with Dehere mares. Both have Northern Dancer on their tail-male line. Could be a case of sex biased (favoring the male). I would want to see more high-class filly coming from this mating.

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Michael D — Thu, 07 May 2009 17:12:01 GMT

Any thoughts on this cross upside down for those of us with fillies by sons of Storm Cat? How about Summer Squall on the bottom of a sires pedigree? Thanks enjoyed the article.

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For Big Red — Thu, 07 May 2009 16:42:35 GMT

I'm thrilled that Dehere is doing so good as a broodmare sire. Even moreso that he his nicking well with both A.P. Indy and Storm Cat, as I love the inbreeding/linebreeding to Secretariat.