Eclipse Awards: Rating the Contenders

re: Eclipse Awards: Rating the Contenders

sceptre — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 17:06:04 GMT

Dear Alan,

Good of you to check into that for me. Also appreciate your remarks. Ampola today, and for years before, tends to occur a good ways back in pedigrees, and what I had observed, for many years, were these "doubles" and the + results. Off the top of my head there is, for example, Confessional. I could have kept a "diary", it's not my way, but I trust my memory that the "sample" was adequate. I'll also say that Ampola wasn't a mare I had reason to direct my focus (unlike a Tom Fool, *La Troienne, or a host of others) which tells me something. I'm also aware that such occurrences, so far back, should exert but very minimal genetic impact. Despite this, I tend to "trust" my observation, and also believe-through observation, and some genetic deduction-that distant influences CAN, AT TIMES, exert meaningful consequence. I was hoping that there might be a "program" to confirm or refute my Ampola observation.

re: Eclipse Awards: Rating the Contenders

Alan Porter — Sat, 18 Jan 2014 03:45:40 GMT

The only comprehensive program, Pedigree Analysis, goes back only four generations for inbreeding, and found just one stakes winner from eight starters, Verduret (by Green Dancer out of a mare by Takawalk).

I can find three other stakes winners (Double Green, which was a recommended mating), the minor stakes winner Zakcat (by Vilzak) and grade one winner Taking Risks (Two Punch out of a Green Dancer mare).

I think there is a link between Grey Dawn II, The Axe II and Pia Star, with Mahmoud and those Whitney strains.

re: Eclipse Awards: Rating the Contenders

sceptre — Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:04:44 GMT

Hi Alan,

Hadn't noticed before, but glad you pointed out Mucho Macho Man's double Grey Dawn II. For years I've seen + results with Ampola linebreeding, and tend to lean toward it in my matings. Was wondering if you have a "tool" (program) for assessing the relative merits of this linebreeding?