re: Combining Like Breds

Ryan — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 03:32:53 GMT

I apologize brogers...as I misread your comments.

re: Combining Like Breds

Byron Rogers — Thu, 03 Sep 2009 03:41:58 GMT

Ryan,

I think that my statement was in agreement with yours. There is no evidence to suggest that Raise a Native specifically is a source of unsoundness in the breed.

re: Combining Like Breds

Ryan — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:17:10 GMT

Claudia and brogers:

There is ZERO statistical evidence to support your assertions that horses related to Raise a Native have a higher probability of injury. Raise a Native is responsible for the fastest horses on the planet. When you run faster you have higher risk of injury. Inbreeding to Raise a Native creates more G1, G2, and G3 runners than ANY OTHER INBREEDING (my guess is 10 to 1). The reality is that long run profitability in this sport is really only achieved when you successfully either train your own horses or own horses that can place in graded races.

I am so sick and tired of fans looking at a few pedigrees of injured horses and making statements based on very small sample sizes.

Regarding Eight Belles: I loved her when I saw her in the G2 Fantasy Stakes at Oaklawn Park. She was so beautiful, tall, long, intelligent looking, and very professional. Since there is ZERO evidence that inbreeding to Raise a Native results in a higher probability of injury, then let’s briefly look at two other factors: Wild Risk and the Churchill Downs track.

Wild Risk: I have noticed from a very large sample size that horses related to Wild Risk seem to have a tendency to have soundness issues. Wild Risk also had a club foot—how’s that for a smoking gun?

Churchill Downs Track: I was there when Eight Belles broke down. I am lucky enough to receive 50 phone calls from friends on Derby day. I told EVERY single person that the track looked like a concrete highway. Horses were barely making an imprint on the surface during the post parades. IMO, the track is the main reason why Eight Belles tragically broke down from BROKEN BONES. Raise a Native was retired due to a bowed tendon.

Question: What sire is the number one rated sire for durability or average starts per offspring? That’s right = a Raise a Native sire line descendent by the name of Demidoff.

re: Combining Like Breds

brogers — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 03:38:07 GMT

In the wake of Eight Belles' tragic demise the spurious and opportune suggestion that Raise a Native, in isolation or duplication, is a source of unsoundness is, as far as I am aware, unsubstantiated and without any empirical evidence. It may make you feel better to say it, but it is inaccurate.

re: Combining Like Breds

Claudia — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:38:13 GMT

Why on Earth would you possible double/triple/quadruple the Raise a Native cross for any reason other than greed? Yup, they're fast and Yup, they are FRAGILE...